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Old 03-01-2016, 05:02 PM   #871 (permalink)
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Except that he and his constituents consider them a race in all but name, and even that is questionable, since I imagine if you asked many conservatives they would call Muslims a race.

Can I just put voice to what we've all been thinking but haven't wanted to say because we like him so much? What's with Goofle becoming an uber-conservative recently? This wasn't the case a while back, and now all of a sudden he's defending Donald Trump and Men's Rights Advocates? WTF?
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He's filling the JWB power vacuum. I'm cool with it though, at least it promotes discussion.
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You're misunderstanding me Chula. I'm not in favour of Trump (aside from the obvious comedy angle), I'm highlighting why he's so popular. And trying to shed light on why I think the Democrats as voters and candidates are doing such a terrible job at stopping him.

What Trump represents is appealing to many. And he's saying things that no other candidate dares to, even if there is an element of truth to it.

Edit: I'm going to bed now but I'll end on this.

I'm not a conservative. I'm a liberal, but I'm not really a fan of how far gone my fellow liberals seem to be going right now. Ignoring problems in fear of being called names, overly sensitive and politically correct to the point of nausea. This isn't what I want to see from my side. And Trumps popularity is only strengthened by this kind of shift in liberal thinking.

P.s. Advocating for men's rights is not conservative. It's neutral.
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Would John Oliver be one of those doing a terrible job?
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If the plan was to hinder the Trump campaign? Sure. He's preaching to the choir, telling them what they already know, in the most brilliant way I have seen so far.

Honestly though, time for bed. I'll give Goofle his account back tomorrow. JWB out.
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My god, seriously? I can't say I've been following his campaign but it seems like the worst possible scenario imaginable to allow him to run the country.
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In theory, yes, but in practice, not so much. And the people I've seen you stumping for are definitely of the not so much variety. For every logical statement that they spew, there is an emotional rage fist moment of misogyny.

Like, I, as a former enemy of Sansa, and a lifelong douchetroll, am worried about you, bro.
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Pleasant dreams Goof. Let's touch base again in the morning.
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I'm certainly not sold on Trump as a candidate, but I know that - at this moment in time - he's the one I would vote for if I were an American.
You might want to reconsider that when you crunch the numbers of his budget plan...

The nonpartisan group has calculated that Trump’s proposals would cost as much as $15 trillion over the next decade, bringing the debt-to-GDP ratio from an estimated 86 percent in 2026 under current government policies to between 115 percent and 140 percent.

Donald Trump Economics: Will His Presidency Make The American Economy 'Great' Again?

Trump desire to slash tax rates dramatically while refusing to cut back on social security and medicaid would put the US in a major whole

I like Trump for his economic nationalization, his lynch pin to make America great again by re-negotiation trade deals, however this is the one part of his economic plan that would probably be very hard to implement in reality.

Clinton on the other hand has a some of the world's top economists in her corner. I can guarntee you that both Summers, Stiglitz & mabye even Krugman will most likely be economic advisors to her Presidency.


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I don't understand how Trump is considered racist. Has he ever said anything that's actually racist? I feel like I've asked this already.
I don't think he's genuinely racist, but he's been playing with some dark xenophobic powers to win over the Republican base, and as a result, I think he's ailientated too many average Americans to win the Presidency.

His refusal to disavow David Duke two days before super teusday when he had done so a day prior was politics at its most rancid. We know he didn't disavow David Duke because he didn't want to lose white votes in the southern states to Ted Cruz, and we know the liberal media asked him that question on more than one occasion, because they could pin him to the wall on it.

At any rate, the stratedgy seemed to pay off for Trump for now, as he pretty much mopped up the floor with the confederate states, as did Clinton...just with a different voting bloc.

Trump's one Trump card, is that he has shown an uncanny ability to uttler demolish his oppenents, but I think this will be harder to do with Hillary, particulary because she is a women, and it will be very hard not to come off as shovinest or sexist.

You can also bet the Democrats will play every bigoted sondbite from Trump, from his comments on Mexican rapists, to banning all muslims (abliet temporarily) to quoting Benito Mussolini, to dancing around the question of David Duke, over and over and over again...and so they should!
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