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Chula Vista · 05-16-2016, 07:04 PM

Just saying,

Extremist Chatter Praises Eric Rudolph as 'Hero.'

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**Goofle** · 05-16-2016, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop

While I do find it endlessly enjoyable to lampoon uneducated white liberals assumption that people of colour share their opinions on everything under the sun; it is idiotic to concern troll Liberals against Muslims in the name of tolerance. It's not a simple matter of being intolerant of intolerance; you're just trying to justify your bigotry in socially acceptable terms.

To put it plainly, there is a certain element of white liberal/leftist culture which is elitist and prejudicial, but, because it's considers itself against those things, it makes elitist and prejudicial statements couched within the language of tolerance. So, you hear bizarre contradictory statements on how mexicans or poles are lazy welfare leaches in one breath and how they're stealing blue collar jobs so we have to protect the working class by declares poles and mexicans as seperate from the working class. Sometimes they even say blatantly racist ****, like we gotta ban muslim immigration, because they'll rape our women and they're super spies who are setting up an invisible caliphate shadow government bla bla bla....

What is so ****ing obnoxious about this group is that, when you point out their arguments are illogical and based on bigoted assumptions, they side step the critique, and proceed to pretend as though they're these oh so burdened messiahs, who are burdened with special knowledge, which we PC police are just pretending is bigoted for fun or something.

So, let's break it down into two examples:

Guy A is "old school" bigot. He's white, drives a brodozer 2008 ram 3500 w/ a cummins. It has smoke stacks, fender flares, a six inch lift kits, mud tires and a variety of stickers in the back with clever saying suchs as, "I'D RATHER BEING CUMMIN' THAN STROKIN'" (this is a dig at ford brodozers), "ADAM & EVE, NOT ADAM & STEVE", and "SHOW ME THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE". He lives outside Atlanta.

Guy B is "new school" bigot. He's white and drives a prius, incompetently. It's got stickers on the back affirming his love for radiohead, his support for various environmental things, and those stupid white ovals that show how unimaginative he is. He lives in New York City.

Now, the truth of the matter is, if both said "Muslims are hellbent on destroying Western civilization", and then each proceeded to offer whatever twisted logic suited each one of their geographic/cultural situations the best, would that make guy B less bigoted than guy A? Of course not. However, for a reason known as idiocy, people get tripped on this, because guy B shops at whole foods and guy A shops at wal*mart.

To make this perfectly clear, guy B is Goofle. And just to make it absolutely clear to Goofle, I am no more shocked by some Muslims bigoted rejection of historical pillars of western civilization than I am of his similar bigoted rejection of historic pillars of western civilization. Just because it's Muslims doing it doesn't make it worse than you doing it, Goofle.

There's just too much nonsense in here to even get started on. But you do know muslims aren't "brown"? It's not a race.

And Chula, you really don't need to keep popping up with examples of non-muslim c*nts, we know they also exist.

Chula Vista · 05-16-2016, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle

And Chula, you really don't need to keep popping up with examples of non-muslim c*nts, we know they also exist.

Not sure I agree with you. Freedom of speech and Religious freedom allows Phelp's insane hate group to picket outside of soldier's funerals, yet the same people standing up for Freedom of speech and Religious freedom want to ban an entire religion from being in the country?

Tons of hypocrisy involved in this debate from a nationwide standpoint, as well as in the corners of this forum.

djchameleon · 05-17-2016, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Ki

^Dirty?

Nope try again.

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Originally Posted by Goofle

In England we have seen groups of Muslims protest the homecoming parades of Soldiers, holding up signs such as "Butchers of Basra" and "Soldiers go to hell". I think we would agree that the examples you gave and the example I just gave are bad.

It's not hypocritical to focus more of your attention on the bigger problem - which I would argue is Islam. You can disagree on that if you want, but not everything is of equal good or bad. And the way to deal with it is not to add more bigotry (ban all muslims/baiting the population for votes), but to accept the issues we are facing and try to deal with them rationally.

What do you know of Islam the religion? Have you ever read a Quran?

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Well are we talking moderate islam or radical islam? Which region of Islam, the sudan? Iraq? North Africa?

Those are things I feel should be asked rather then blanket Islam as a whole. Because it appears that people in different parts of the Muslim world are not all the same and some fractions are more hard core and radical then others.Im just wonder which facet of Islam you wanna talk about?

I'm talking in general because it is a religion and the way Goofle's posts are coming across. He doesn't like Islam itself in general. Almost like saying a person doesn't like Christianity and I am just trying to get to the root of his issue with all Muslims regardless of how radical they are.

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Also if you look at polls consisting of Muslims who are in western countries, you would be surprised to find just how many them support views that aren't liberal and tolerant.

Why must they support liberal views and be tolerant?

**Goofle** · 05-17-2016, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

What do you know of Islam the religion? Have you ever read a Quran?

I'm talking in general because it is a religion and the way Goofle's posts are coming across. He doesn't like Islam itself in general. Almost like saying a person doesn't like Christianity and I am just trying to get to the root of his issue with all Muslims regardless of how radical they are.

Why must they support liberal views and be tolerant?

1. Not read the Quran, but have seen enough to know that it - and the Hadith's - are far from the kind of books people should be living their lives by.

2. You know I don't have an issue with all Muslims so please don't talk as if I have ever said that, it doesn't come across well.

3. People don't have to support any views, but not being tolerant and classically liberal (free speech, equality etc) isn't going to mix well in Western countries.

**Goofle** · 05-16-2016, 08:16 PM

In England we have seen groups of Muslims protest the homecoming parades of Soldiers, holding up signs such as "Butchers of Basra" and "Soldiers go to hell". I think we would agree that the examples you gave and the example I just gave are bad.

It's not hypocritical to focus more of your attention on the bigger problem - which I would argue is Islam. You can disagree on that if you want, but not everything is of equal good or bad. And the way to deal with it is not to add more bigotry (ban all muslims/baiting the population for votes), but to accept the issues we are facing and try to deal with them rationally.

Chula Vista · 05-16-2016, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle

And the way to deal with it is not to add more bigotry (ban all muslims/baiting the population for votes), but to accept the issues we are facing and try to deal with them rationally.

Agree wholeheartedly.

kibbeh · 05-16-2016, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle

In England we have seen groups of Muslims protest the homecoming parades of Soldiers, holding up signs such as "Butchers of Basra" and "Soldiers go to hell".

just like most westerners believe muslims want to destroy their civilization, most muslims believe westerners want to destroy theirs. what else is new.

RoxyRollah · 05-17-2016, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by pansy gayboy 69

just like most westerners believe muslims want to destroy their civilization, most muslims believe westerners want to destroy theirs. what else is new.

Wat? Thats not true at all.

**Frownland** · 05-16-2016, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle

In England we have seen groups of Muslims protest the homecoming parades of Soldiers, holding up signs such as "Butchers of Basra" and "Soldiers go to hell". I think we would agree that the examples you gave and the example I just gave are bad.

It's not hypocritical to focus more of your attention on the bigger problem - which I would argue is Islam. You can disagree on that if you want, but not everything is of equal good or bad. And the way to deal with it is not to add more bigotry (ban all muslims/baiting the population for votes), but to accept the issues we are facing and try to deal with them rationally.

To be fair if non threatening white people were as directly affected by a war they have a history of being just as douchey about it.

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