The Christianity Thread

[bob.]

i don't need chains to see how free i am....

[Zhanteimi]

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[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by mordwyr

You proceed from a false assumption. I am content in my chains, for in them I have found freedom.

[Janszoon]

Originally Posted by bob.

Jans was calling your cult creepy for all reading a book at the same time.....i offered something much "weirder" in defense but doing the exact same practice at the same time as ALL religions do

i'm also playing on the fact that he may know exactly what i'm talking about and if not after a brief description will know what i'm talking about

the Bob i'm talking about is not me....i'm narcissistic but not that narcissistic....i'm referring to Robert Anton Wilson a true god among men

Heh, sorry to say but your references have flown over my head. I just googled Robert Anton Wilson and I see he's the guy who wrote The Illuminatus! Trilogy, which I've heard of, but I've never read it.

[Exo]

Originally Posted by mordwyr

I'll pass, then. I have no desire to converse with someone who finds what I hold dear "creepy". Goodbye.

This reminds me of when Steve Harvey said on TV that he would just walk away from people who said they didn't believe in God. Wouldn't even talk to them. I'm all for strong beliefs but sometimes people take it so far as they're not even willing to acknowledge somebody with another opinion.

[Zhanteimi]

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[Janszoon]

Originally Posted by mordwyr

You mistake my meaning. I have no problem discussing Christianity with people, but when they say something disparaging and then ask me a question in the same breath, I wonder why I should answer. You cannot expect me to have a conversation with someone insulting what I hold dear. I have plenty of atheist friends in real life, but they never say my religion is creepy (to my face), and I never say anything to insult their beliefs, or lack thereof. It's about manners. If you want to have a discussion, then don't insult.

In short, I will acknowledge other opinions. Of course I will. Even if I don't agree. But I'm not going to continue a conversation with a guy who says, [insult] [question about my religion]. Would you engage someone who insults and then immediately asks you a question about the very thing he just insulted? Seems disingenuous to me.

Actually, it would be disingenuous of me to pretend I didn't find it creepy.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by mordwyr

You mistake my meaning. I have no problem discussing Christianity with people, but when they say something disparaging and then ask me a question in the same breath, I wonder why I should answer. You cannot expect me to have a conversation with someone insulting what I hold dear. I have plenty of atheist friends in real life, but they never say my religion is creepy (to my face), and I never say anything to insult their beliefs, or lack thereof. It's about manners. If you want to have a discussion, then don't insult.

In short, I will acknowledge other opinions. Of course I will. Even if I don't agree. But I'm not going to continue a conversation with a guy who says, [insult] [question about my religion]. Would you engage someone who insults and then immediately asks you a question about the very thing he just insulted? Seems disingenuous to me.

What the hell are you on about? Janzs didn't throw any insults around you big baby.

[Key]

Originally Posted by mordwyr

You mistake my meaning. I have no problem discussing Christianity with people, but when they say something disparaging and then ask me a question in the same breath, I wonder why I should answer. You cannot expect me to have a conversation with someone insulting what I hold dear. I have plenty of atheist friends in real life, but they never say my religion is creepy (to my face), and I never say anything to insult their beliefs, or lack thereof. It's about manners. If you want to have a discussion, then don't insult.

In short, I will acknowledge other opinions. Of course I will. Even if I don't agree. But I'm not going to continue a conversation with a guy who says, [insult] [question about my religion]. Would you engage someone who insults and then immediately asks you a question about the very thing he just insulted? Seems disingenuous to me.

I hate to say it because I think you're a good guy but you're coming off as the type of Christian that I absolutely hate. Complete disregard for other people's opinion that doesn't fit your own. Christians and anyone else who follows a belief tend to think their belief is the only way of thinking, and once it's questioned, they instead think of it as an attack instead of a question. You gotta be more open to thefact that not everybody thinks the way you do. There's also no reason to be offended if you strongly believe what you do. Not everybody is going to think the way you do, but that shouldn't stop you from believing what you believe.

[Chula Vista]

Today's Top 10 Reasons Why the Bible and Christians who swear by the bible blow my mind.

1. God drowns the whole earth.
In Genesis 7:21-23, God drowns the entire population of the earth: men, women, children, fetuses, and perhaps unicorns. Only a single family survives. In Matthew 24:37-42, gentle Jesus approves of this genocide and plans to repeat it when he returns.

2. God kills half a million people.
In 2 Chronicles 13:15-18, God helps the men of Judah kill 500,000 of their fellow Israelites.

3. God slaughters all Egyptian firstborn.
In Exodus 12:29, God the baby-killer slaughters all Egyptian firstborn children and cattle because their king was stubborn.

4. God kills 14,000 people for complaining that God keeps killing them.
In Numbers 16:41-49, the Israelites complain that God is killing too many of them. So, God sends a plague that kills 14,000 more of them.

5. Genocide after genocide after genocide.
In Joshua 6:20-21, God helps the Israelites destroy Jericho, killing “men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep and donkeys.” In Deuteronomy 2:32-35, God has the Israelites kill everyone in Heshbon, including children. In Deuteronomy 3:3-7, God has the Israelites do the same to the people of Bashan. In Numbers 31:7-18, the Israelites kill all the Midianites except for the virgins, whom they take as spoils of war. In 1 Samuel 15:1-9, God tells the Israelites to kill all the Amalekites – men, women, children, infants, and their cattle – for something the Amalekites’ ancestors had done 400 years earlier.

6. God kills 50,000 people for curiosity.
In 1 Samuel 6:19, God kills 50,000 men for peeking into the ark of the covenant. (Newer cosmetic translations count only 70 deaths, but their text notes admit that the best and earliest manuscripts put the number at 50,070.)

7. 3,000 Israelites killed for inventing a god.
In Exodus 32, Moses has climbed Mount Sinai to get the Ten Commandments. The Israelites are bored, so they invent a golden calf god. Moses comes back and God commands him: “Each man strap a sword to his side. Go back and forth through the camp from one end to the other, each killing his brother and friend and neighbor.” About 3,000 people died.

8. The Amorites destroyed by sword and by God’s rocks.
In Joshua 10:10-11, God helps the Israelites slaughter the Amorites by sword, then finishes them off with rocks from the sky.

9. God burns two cities to death.
In Genesis 19:24, God kills everyone in Sodom and Gomorrah with fire from the sky. Then God kills Lot’s wife for looking back at her burning home.

10. God has 42 children mauled by bears.
In 2 Kings 2:23-24, some kids tease the prophet Elisha, and God sends bears to dismember them. (Newer cosmetic translations say the bears “maul” the children, but the original Hebrew, baqa, means “to tear apart.”)