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DwnWthVwls 05-15-2017 05:34 AM

I showed up an hour early to my internship so lets talk about preventative treatment and society. As I said earlier I agree that if everyone had access to doctors that at the very least could give the preventative advice we would see an increase in overall health. My question is how much of an increase? Preventative recommendations are not actually treatments(some are) but suggestions leaving it up to the individuals to follow through on listening to their doctors. So Person A leaves the doctor and goes back into a society force feeding them an unhealthy lifestyle, now what?

Do you have some stats or information correlating preventative medicine with increased health? Specfically in the US if possible. Or some way to demonstrate your claim? Again the ****ty healthcare system needs some fixing but if we are discussing public health i think we have much bigger fish to fry and your pointing your finger in the wrong direction. Might as well be sending burn victims to dentists for a teeth cleaning.

As usual if there is some flaw in my logic or im missing a major point do tell. And sorry if this is a ****ty response forums and cellphones dont mesh well. Ill come back to clarify and clean up later if i have to.

OccultHawk 05-15-2017 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1835658)
Do you know what the word healthy means and understand how that is not relevant at all to the point im making?

Yes, if you have strep you are not healthy in the moment and if you dont get treatment it can get bad quickly. Next time you for a physical make sure to ask them to check you for strep. While youre at it get tested for every other possible ailment.

Elph your point about preventative medicine is the one thing i do agree with you on and id like to address it further so ill be back to it later.

No. I don't get it. Spell it out for me like I'm retarded.

My thinking is if people can't go see a doctor all kinds of fixable things don't get fixed. Strep throat, scabies, syphilis, pink eye, and on and on. Am I wrong to conclude our general public health could be improved by allowing people to fix this stuff? I'm thinking in your mind it's like when a person confuses weather and climate but if you could do me the kindness of spelling it out for me.

Pet_Sounds 05-15-2017 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1835616)
You know what our ****ty healthcare system should largely be blamed for? Needless deaths, lack of treatment for the poor, overuse of treatments which increase immunity in viruses/bacteria, prescription drug abuse, etc.. NOT the general health of the population.

Don't those things factor into the general health of the population, from a statistical standpoint?

Chula Vista 05-15-2017 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Pet_Sounds (Post 1835683)
Don't those things factor into the general health of the population, from a statistical standpoint?

You are correct sir!

Key 05-15-2017 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1835748)

So is this a "personal responsibility" issue or maybe, just maybe, we treat our workers like **** in this country

Pretty much exactly this. If you don't work for the bigger companies in the country, you basically get the worst treatment you can find. It's all about greed and not wanting to provide a healthy wage for the workers involved. That's why so many people just start their own businesses (which can be a very smart route). Small businesses need to be catered to more because that's the main thing that will bring the economy back on track. People can disagree with that all they want, but there's no way you can argue that small businesses have created a great living for those that couldn't find it before. It's allowed people to learn skills they never thought they had and plus, nothing wrong with being your own boss. I did it for a while. It's stressful but it can be worth it if done properly. (no im not talking about my clickbait job).

Chula Vista 05-15-2017 01:41 PM

Stress is a killer. A silent, but very deadly killer.

OccultHawk 05-15-2017 03:14 PM

Trump revealed highly classified information to Russian foreign minister and ambassador

please let this be enough

Key 05-15-2017 03:19 PM

All of the women on The Apprentice flirted with me - consciously or unconsciously. That's to be expected.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 05-15-2017 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1835748)
When it comes to life expectancy the very stress of being poor will take years of your life not to mention the poor healthcare

life expectancy in the US for the working class is declining for the first time since the AIDS epidemic

So is this a "personal responsibility" issue or maybe, just maybe, we treat our workers like **** in this country

kill the poor

The Batlord 05-15-2017 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1835834)
If dems win back the house they will impeach the **** out of this symbol of everything that went wrong with society

Or do you think they'll play along with the garbage society the same as they ever have and try to discredit him within the normal political hate channels that accomplish nothing but sound bites?


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