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Frownland 03-20-2017 12:03 PM

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djchameleon 03-20-2017 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1815272)
Can he get impeached now? I'm not being silly, I'm truly curious.

I've seen others floating the idea around as well but from the angle that he accused a former president of a felony. As others have said though as long as he didn't lie under oath it's all in play and he's fine.

grindy 03-20-2017 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1815322)
It boggles my mind that Congress is allowed to decide how voting districts are laid out. It's like giving a serial rapist free room and board and a skeleton key at a sorority house.

That's the plot of a sitcom screenplay I'm currently working on.

The Batlord 03-20-2017 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by grindy (Post 1815331)
That's the plot of a sitcom screenplay I'm currently working on.

Working title: Animolester House

Chula Vista 03-20-2017 12:22 PM

Can you imagine what it must be like to be a member of the republican congress right now who's up for re-election in two years? You have Trump, Ryan, and Bannon beating you over the head to jump on board Trumpcare, yet you have a constituency that for the most part already hate it.

Frownland 03-20-2017 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1815336)
Can you imagine what it must be like to be a member of the republican congress right now who's up for re-election in two years? You have Trump, Ryan, and Bannon beating you over the head to jump on board Trumpcare, yet you have a constituency that for the most part already hate it.

I was going to ask if you had seen any polls showing right wing dissent of the bill before I researched and found this

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/inte...news-poll-315/

Yes it's fox but looking at this it's a well done poll.

Neapolitan 03-20-2017 12:29 PM

The House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence is holding the first public hearing on Russia’s efforts to influence the election.

Chula Vista 03-20-2017 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1815340)
I was going to ask if you had seen any polls showing right wing dissent of the bill before I researched and found this

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/inte...news-poll-315/

Yes it's fox but looking at this it's a well done poll.

Wow.

Trumpcare
17% - strongly favor
40% - strongly oppose

Why do you oppose Trumpcare
21% - doesn't change Obamacare enough
67% - changes Obamacare too much

That last one is a doozy.

elphenor 03-20-2017 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1815319)
My only point is that it may only be an illusion that the Republican party is radical, where in relation to the Democratic party, the Republican party is just doing its job. A few exceptions of course.

Not really

The Republican party is far right of what the majority of Americans believe

The Democratic party however is only slightly further to the left as compared to the average voter

The Batlord 03-20-2017 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1815367)
Not really

The Republican party is far right of what the majority of Americans believe

The Democratic party however is only slightly further to the left as compared to the average voter

Pretty much. The Republicans have been able to define the national conversation to an extent that their positions are at least acceptable for debate, whereas the more liberal views of the Democrats are politically embarrassing. All things being equal both sides would probably be equally far right/left, but the political reality has hamstrung the Democrats.

Chula Vista 03-20-2017 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1815369)
Pretty much. The Republicans have been able to define the national conversation to an extent that their positions are at least acceptable for debate, whereas the more liberal views of the Democrats are politically embarrassing. All things being equal both sides would probably be equally far right/left, but the political reality has hamstrung the Democrats.

To the extent that for a ton of rural, older, mostly white Americans, the priorities (when push comes to shove) are God, Guns, and Anti-Gubment, it's pretty easy to see why things are the way they are right now.

"It's Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve", is still a popular meme in a lot of those areas.

Cuthbert 03-20-2017 04:04 PM

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lol if this is real.

Lisnaholic 03-20-2017 05:33 PM

According to this guy's argument, Trump's conduct to date already justifies impeachment:-



My understanding is that there has to be much broader support for it, with politicians and public alike calling for impeachment, before any action is taken.

Alas, impeaching Trump wouldn't necessarily achieve much. I think the Republicans are treating Trump like a sacrificial pawn; put him out there, if he does some good for the cause, that's great. The day he is too toxic to be useful they'll throw him under the bus, because of course in this scenario the Republicans are playing chess, sitting on the sidewalk of a bus route.... Anyway, they'll just dust off their hands and try to push through many of the same policies with a less controvertial figurehead.

elphenor 03-20-2017 05:46 PM

I'm against impeachment ftr pending evidence of a real heinous crime

I'm for changing the election rules to something that actually resembles a democracy so we prevent these disasters

Lisnaholic 03-20-2017 06:07 PM

Yes, ditto on both of those. An impeachment on shakey grounds would be really hurtful to the image of US democracy. An impeachment attempt that failed to impeach would be even worse.

I was surprised to learn about the whole Electoral College weighting of votes in the US, which seems very unfair to the big citydwellers on both coasts.
If it's any consolation, the UK also has a complex voting system which also skews the idea of one man, one vote. Politicians (the electoral losers, of course) regularly call for Proportional Representation, but it hasn't happened yet because every party that wins under the existing system defends the existing system, regardless of what they may have said when they were the opposition party.

The Batlord 03-20-2017 06:09 PM

Our system exists because the rural South wouldn't have ratified the Constitution if they hadn't have had a voting counterweight against the more populous North. ****ty, especially since cities have an even greater share of the population today, but just a political necessity at the time.

Anteater 03-20-2017 06:28 PM

I'd vote for a more honest version of Barack Obama or Trump when he was in his mid 30's (when his thinking was more flexible and he leaned more left than right).

OccultHawk 03-20-2017 07:49 PM

His bitch ass is going to jail for treason and libel.

djchameleon 03-20-2017 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 1815417)
Yes, ditto on both of those. An impeachment on shakey grounds would be really hurtful to the image of US democracy. An impeachment attempt that failed to impeach would be even worse.

Well that's what happened with Bill Clinton. They just didn't have enough votes to impeach him successfully. It was pretty close though.

Lisnaholic 03-20-2017 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1815418)
Our system exists because the rural South wouldn't have ratified the Constitution if they hadn't have had a voting counterweight against the more populous North. ****ty, especially since cities have an even greater share of the population today, but just a political necessity at the time.

That's interesting!
I used to think the Confederate flag was just a quaint bit of nostalgia, like humming along to The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down or watching The Good The Bad and The Ugly. Turns out those southern sentiments are nearer the surface than I thought.

EDIT: OK, thanks DJ, so there's a precedent for a call for impeachment that doesn't go all the way...

RoxyRollah 03-20-2017 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1815408)
I'm against impeachment ftr pending evidence of a real heinous crime

I'm for changing the election rules to something that actually resembles a democracy so we prevent these disasters

So .....a constitutional republic don't work for you?

Frownland 03-20-2017 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1815441)
So .....a bastardized take on a constitutional republic don't work for you?

Not really, no.

rostasi 03-20-2017 10:42 PM

Rubio in 2016:

RUBIO: ...and obviously we all understand the importance of this presidential race.
I would just ask everybody this:
Can this country afford to have a president under investigation by the FBI?

AUDIENCE: No!

RUBIO: Think of the trauma that this would do to this country. <sic>

Lucem Ferre 03-20-2017 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1815301)
I wanted to comment on this silly remark earlier because it's coming from you, the guy who claims that music made in a studio is better than anything else. Studio recording is considered labeling something.

Oh, you mean the time that I kept satirically rubbing in your faces that I record in the studio because it pissed you off and it was funny?


Elph, no, I say that because most people don't fully align with one side or the other and the only reason you pick a side is because you are too lazy and dumb to think for yourself.

Paul Smeenus 03-20-2017 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by rostasi (Post 1815448)
Rubio in 2016:

RUBIO: ...and obviously we all understand the importance of this presidential race.
I would just ask everybody this:
Can this country afford to have a president under investigation by the FBI?

AUDIENCE: No!

RUBIO: Think of the trauma that this would do to this country. <sic>


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elphenor 03-20-2017 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1815441)
So .....a constitutional republic don't work for you?

How are you this ignorant as to what the issue is

Janszoon 03-21-2017 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1815418)
Our system exists because the rural South wouldn't have ratified the Constitution if they hadn't have had a voting counterweight against the more populous North. ****ty, especially since cities have an even greater share of the population today, but just a political necessity at the time.

The funny part is that the immediate effect of that system was to give Virgina an enormous advantage over the rest of the states.

djchameleon 03-21-2017 08:25 AM

Here is a bit of wishful thinking, the only thing is that I only see two possible sources to this so I'm pretty sure it's not accurate. I didn't check her twitter to see if she really said those things either.

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Donald Trump is going to “get himself out of office soon”, a leading Democratic senator has claimed.

Dianne Feinstein suggested the President would quit before he was potentially forced out of office after anti-Trump protesters in Los Angeles demanded to know why more wasn’t being done by Congress to remove him from office.

“We know he is breaking the law every day," a protester asked the 83-year-old political veteran. "He has obvious dealings with Russia. There’s so many things he’s doing that are unconstitutional. How are we going to get him out?”

Hinting she might know more than she is able to let on, Ms Feinstein, who sits on the House Judiciary Committee, replied: “We have a lot of people looking into this. I think he’s going to get himself out.”
Source: Donald Trump will resign 'soon', says top Democrat Dianne Feinstein | The Independent

elphenor 03-21-2017 07:41 PM

I wouldn't hold your breath

best case scenario is that Trump tanks the Republican party into losing the midterms

Chula Vista 03-22-2017 07:40 PM

This Devin Nunes story today is taking the absurd to completely new levels.

Nunes, top republican on the House Intelligence committee, who along with democrat Adam Schiff, are heading up the investigations into the possible Russia links to the Trump campaign and White House.

Without informing Schiff or the rest of the comittee he talks to the press this morning to say that some Trump communications may have been intercepted as part of standard US intelligence surveilence operations this past fall. He then rushes to the White House to brief Trump.

This is so wrong and messed up on so many levels.

1. Nunes offered up zero proof.
2. He's co-heading up an investigation yet divulges possibly classified information to not only the press, but also one of the people being investigated - Trump.
3. He didn't consult with the committee or Schiff, who found out about it through CNN. Schiff was visibly pissed when interviewed afterwards.
4. When asked later Trump said he felt somewhat vindicated - even though Nunes reiterated that there's zero proof of Trumps wire tap claims. He did go on to repeat Trumps walk back that wiretap was a generalization.
5. Tomorrow is the House vote on Trumpcare.it.

The legal analysists are almost speechless when asked about

Stephen 03-22-2017 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1815473)
Here is a bit of wishful thinking, the only thing is that I only see two possible sources to this so I'm pretty sure it's not accurate. I didn't check her twitter to see if she really said those things either.

Source: Donald Trump will resign 'soon', says top Democrat Dianne Feinstein | The Independent

You know the scene in Scarface - "Say hello to my little friend". That's how Trump's presidency ends.

Frownland 03-22-2017 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 1815992)
You know the scene in Scarface - "Say hello to my little friend". That's how Trump's presidency ends.

If he does then he'll be my favourite president ever.

The Batlord 03-22-2017 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1815995)
If he does then he'll be my favourite president ever.

So long as it happens in an open session of Congress.

Lucem Ferre 03-22-2017 11:46 PM

Remember that part where, like, his sister tries to seduce him and he wasn't really opposing it? That'll be Trump's daughter.

Frownland 03-22-2017 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 1816037)
Remember that part where, like, his sister tries to seduce him and he wasn't really opposing it? That'll be Trump's daughter.

I wanted to make this joke but I didn't remember any quotes from that scene and my half assed google search didn't turn up any so I moved on and didn't finish writing the post.

RoxyRollah 03-23-2017 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1815443)
Not really, no.

You're a communist ...I wouldn't expect anything less from you.


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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1815454)
How are you this ignorant as to what the issue is

Umm. I asked you a question, I never stated my opinion. I'm not naïve or ignorant as to what the issues are. I asked you a simple question.

DwnWthVwls 03-23-2017 05:08 AM

:wavey::wavey:

Frownland 03-23-2017 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1816047)
You're a communist ...I wouldn't expect anything less from you.

Yes, me thinking that America practices pseudo capitalism makes me a communist...if you're a fascist.

Chula Vista 03-23-2017 10:34 AM

Well that didn't take long for Nunes to have to eat some crow.

Nunes apologizes to House Intel Committee, member says - CNNPolitics.com

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Nunes, a member of the Trump's transition team executive committee, set off a stunning new political controversy Wednesday when he headed to the White House to personally brief President Donald Trump on the revelations. Despite being advised against doing so, sources said Nunes met with Republican members of the Intelligence Committee before his news conference, but did not share information with the Democrats on the committee.
I think he should recllluse himself from the investigation.

Frownland 03-23-2017 11:14 AM

*refuse


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