Was Ringo A Crap Drummer. (lyrics, jazz, great song, beatles)

adidasss · 03-05-2006, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by LedZepStu

you specialise in contradicting yourself dont you. you say ringo's drumming is crap because its so simple and easy, yet you praise meg white for doing just the same? and you seem to completely underestimate the difficulty in keeping a drum beat, the coordination between the foot operating the bass drum and the hands using the sticks has to be perfect throughout.

correct me if i'm wrong, but i don't think white's drumming is even near lollipop...it's hard ass....maybe simple...but still, she does the trick....i think anyone could have replaced ringo and noone would have known the difference....white's asketic yet hard drumming is what makes the white stripess so great ( along with the amazing guitar work from mr. white of course )...oh, i don't think ringo's drumming was crap...i just think it's nothing special....

Stone Magnet · 03-05-2006, 07:04 PM

Ringo was a good drummer, he just gets slammed a lot because he's in a band with fricking John Lennon, Paul McCartney, and George Harrison. :P

boo boo · 03-05-2006, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss

correct me if i'm wrong, but i don't think white's drumming is even near lollipop...it's hard ass....maybe simple...but still, she does the trick....i think anyone could have replaced ringo and noone would have known the difference....white's asketic yet hard drumming is what makes the white stripess so great ( along with the amazing guitar work from mr. white of course )...oh, i don't think ringo's drumming was crap...i just think it's nothing special....

Yeah because we all know that every Beatles song is lolipop sh*t, just listen to Helter Skelter or I Want You (Shes So Heavy), those could have been Backstreet Boys songs.

Stone Magnet · 03-05-2006, 08:42 PM

Yeah. Thank God for Bob Dylan introducing them to the almighty dope.

Soundgardener · 03-06-2006, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ledzeppelinrulzzzz

i think he was doing his job perfectly, bonham type drumming in the beatles was uneeded, and unecassary.

I agree. Ringo played what the music needed, not some over-drumming bull**** like a lot of players tend to do.

Sneer · 03-07-2006, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by adidasss

correct me if i'm wrong, but i don't think white's drumming is even near lollipop...it's hard ass....maybe simple...but still, she does the trick....i think anyone could have replaced ringo and noone would have known the difference....white's asketic yet hard drumming is what makes the white stripess so great ( along with the amazing guitar work from mr. white of course )...oh, i don't think ringo's drumming was crap...i just think it's nothing special....

since when has it been such an artform to it the drums hard? if your saying anyone can do ringo's job, then the same can be said for meg white. and this misconception you have of the beatles being lollipop is both ignorant and stupid, have a deeper understanding of a band before you go labelling their music, you only look foolish if you dont.

adidasss · 03-07-2006, 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by LedZepStu

since when has it been such an artform to it the drums hard? if your saying anyone can do ringo's job, then the same can be said for meg white. and this misconception you have of the beatles being lollipop is both ignorant and stupid, have a deeper understanding of a band before you go labelling their music, you only look foolish if you dont.

sheesh, a person can't even make half-assed, unbacked statements on this forum without being called out on it anymore. i suppose i'll have to get that sgt.peppers album everyone is talking about. but i just have a thing against the beatles i suppose. and fair enough, if ringo can be replaced, so can meg white, i never said she was a fantastic drummer, she doesn't have the muscle to be really great, i just think she has a specific style, one that any good drummer can undoubtedly immitate without breaking a sweat...probably even ringo.....i still don't think ringo was anything special...

right-track · 03-07-2006, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

Drums seem to be predestined to play something simplistic to keep everything else grounded.
Complex drumming more often than not equates to bad drumming.

With the exception of Keith Moon.^

boo boo; Helter Skelter is a superb example of Ringo's drumming abilities.
At the end of which Ringo can be heard to scream "I've got blisters on my fingers".
Another good example of his competence, 'Tomorrow Never Knows.'

Personally I believe Ringo was overlooked (due to the talents of the others) and was a far better drummer than he was given credit for.

Brilliant, no. Definitely above average.

adidasss...get the album and go suck a lollipop.

boo boo · 03-07-2006, 02:38 PM

Moons style was much more intense and wild than it was complex, in fact he was rather sloppy at times, hes still one of the greatest.

On Ringo, i wouldnt call him great, but he is a good drummer dispite what anyone says, his drumming on Come Together for example, its so subtle but its brillant.

jazzfromhell · 03-07-2006, 11:11 PM

How could Ringo be categorized as a crap drummer? He never ****s up, he keeps the beat, and the music doesn't really call for anything else. I realize this is just me, but I never really listen to the Beatles and think, "Oh, Ringo should've played a nice, rolling fill there." I personally don't see how he can be criticised. Even if he doesn't play enough fills for someone's tastes, that doesn't make him a bad drummer, if anything it just makes him boring. I suppose you could call boring bad, but I'd rather be a boring bad than a losing the beat, throwing everyone off bad.

03-05-2006, 07:04 PM	#32 (permalink)
Stone Magnet Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Keswick, Ontario Posts: 731	Ringo was a good drummer, he just gets slammed a lot because he's in a band with fricking John Lennon, Paul McCartney, and George Harrison. :P __________________ Lock to field screen, row the ocean onto sentient ground. New rites of a Vedic sun to attend the blue horizon. Prevails flight resplendent, sails the shrine effulgent windship. Stillness breathes apex supreme - I walk toward the mountain. Crowns the sovereic rite to freedom. Shored the origin forms to a ground accede. Axiom core of the light shrine flight to shining. Glows serene to attenuate the space and time.

03-05-2006, 08:42 PM	#34 (permalink)
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03-07-2006, 11:11 PM	#40 (permalink)
jazzfromhell SHAKE! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: On the A train. Posts: 205	How could Ringo be categorized as a crap drummer? He never ***s up, he keeps the beat, and the music doesn't really call for anything else. I realize this is just me, but I never really listen to the Beatles and think, "Oh, Ringo should've played a nice, rolling fill there." I personally don't see how he can be criticised. Even if he doesn't play enough fills for someone's tastes, that doesn't make him a bad* drummer, if anything it just makes him boring. I suppose you could call boring bad, but I'd rather be a boring bad than a losing the beat, throwing everyone off bad.