TheBig3

ok but what about his timbre?

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1. "songwriting is about as important as what color shoes you wear compared to timbre and natural harmony" those are different things. Why not just say "forging horseshoes is as relevant as painting murals when it comes to lacing up your boxing gloves."

2. I thought you listened to punk? How isn't the timbre of punk just microtonal jazz composition?

3. My take from watching Adam Neely videos is that he's trying to expand people's understanding of what music is. Did he put out a video telling people they're trash?

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Neapolitan

So you what you are saying is that since people have preference of shoe color, then they also have a preference for a certain style of songwriting. The color of the shoes is representative of timbre and natural harmony as where the style of the shoe is the style of music or genre. eg Penny loafers would be Doo Wop & indie, wing tips would be big band, Chuck Taylor's for CBGB's bands, Brogans are Oi Punk, Doc Martins with red and white laces are Hardcore Punk, cowboy boots would be country music of course, and flip flops would be jam bands like Phish and the Grateful Dead. Until you mentioned it, I didn't know how strong a correlation there was between foot wear and music. Come to think of it, Shoegazers are called that cause they like looking at the color of their shoes.

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Frownland

Songwriting is essential then.

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TheBig3

How do you define "bad" then? I think Joanna Newsom sings like a fawn that's just been hit by a truck. And yet people praise her to no end. To me she's bad. And yet, known and loved.

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TheBig3

The Offspring were just as good as contemporaries such as Green Day or Weezer in terms of good pop songwriting but for some odd reason never got the explosive hype as the other two.

And it looks like they have 3-4 Platinum albums and an almost permanent rock-radio staple in "Self Esteem." Still, does anyone naturally put them in the same categroy? (though that new single is rough)

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TheBig3

What's funny though is that, to me, they feel like a band who threw the record executives 1 or 2 (cringy af) singles, but the rest of the album doesn't sound like that. And I think there are some non-famous singles on their albums that are really good songs. Million Miles Away, Meaning of Life, even Hammerhead wasn't bad.

But mother of god, **** like "Why Don't you get a job" - **** right off with that.

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The Batlord

I loves me some Offspring but they're absolutely corny radio punk trash.

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TheBig3

I'm continuously mind-blown that people don't openly trash them. I just read through their thread and it was mostly positive. I expected them to be a band that was easy to hate.

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The Batlord

Was it an old thread? Old MB was a bunch of gormless troglodytes.

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TheBig3

Worse still it's like a mod-merged franken-thread.

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