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Originally Posted by Batty (Post 967934)

Marillion are the best band in the universe.

Will moving to some other galaxy help me? ;D
(can't stand the guy's voice. Neither of them)

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Originally Posted by MoonlitSunshine (Post 968035)

To say "no structure" is to say that the musicians are basically all doing their own thing without thought for the other musicians. Playing in the same key is a structure, a weak one, but a structure nonetheless. Music without any structure at all just pisses me off, because you've left music at that point, and gone back to noise (by definition: noise is a collection of unrelated frequencies).

Louis Jordan, Fats Waller, Louis Armstrong, Ry Cooder... all these guys would be considered mostly "structured" Jazz, and their music is fantastic. "Free" jazz, as defined by jazz with no structure whatsoever, to me just sounds like 4, 5 guys on a stage soloing, which is not interesting. To me, music is all about harmonies, cadences, interactions between lines and notes in order to create a whole that is greater than the parts. Structured music may be standardised, it may get boring at times due to excessive use of a certain system, but it has a beauty to it that a group of soloists will only ever find by chance.

I agree. Almost all jazz, including free and avant garde jazz, has an underlying structure to it which affords a foundation for improvisation, or free expression.

I admire the improvisation of jazz, including when there is a supposed lack of structure. I do feel, however, that there needs to be a point where the musicians all "come back together" so to say. My head just gets really tired after listening to nothing but soloists doing their thing because my ears instinctively and consistently search for a pattern or something to hold on to in the music. It's not that free form is bad or anything, it just goes against the natural way humans listen to music.

I like Sublime a lot...

^Like, sooooooooooooooo mainstream

I'm making a late push and giving you a run for your money! :D

No, but really, that album is really good and actually quite diverse. I wouldn't call it a mainstream album as a whole...

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Originally Posted by Violent & Funky (Post 969859)

I'm making a late push and giving you a run for your money! :D

No, but really, that album is really good and actually quite diverse. I wouldn't call it a mainstream album as a whole...

I have to agree there... maybe I'm blinded by nostalgia but I think it's a pretty damn solid album. None of their other albums really clicked with me - Date Rape was a pretty amusing song though :p:

Never! The Most Mainstream title is mine!

You better nominate me since I nominated you!

I think I'll break the rules and nominate myself