Unpopular Music Opinions

Necromancer · 09-03-2011, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by RVCA

I was under the impression-- and correct me if I'm wrong-- that rap metal is a derivative of the whole nu-metal scene. If your band is categorized as rap metal, you're necessarily a nu-metal act, but the reverse is not necessarily true.

That's true, everything musically is.. and can be considered as being derivative of certain genres if you want to be technical. But I have to disagree "the reverse can be (sometimes) necessarily true" within certain eras of a particular band and artist career. I sometimes comment on my own intuition and opinion instead of Wikipedia.

Just talking out-loud, not based on any facts, just my personal opinion.

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

Back then I thought all nu-metal needed rap to be considered nu-metal so no idea why'd you think that lol.

(Rap Metal/Rock or Rapcore)

Sometimes bordering on the Funk Rock genre.

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

but yeah they are still considered nu-metal.

I am just giving an example of my own personal opinion, nothing more. I'm not trying to change the category and label of any certain genre.

Genres sometimes evolve and do not necessarily sound the same as their origin, (derivative) yes.

I personally do not consider Linkin Park as having the same sound and style as Disturbed or Korn for example. Maybe P.O.D., Saliva, Limp Bizkit , and so on.

(That's all I'm saying)..

The Batlord · 09-03-2011, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Il Duce

you should hear Dimension Hattross and Nothingface

both prime prog-thrash

I was just listening to them. I think I'm in love. Also truly digging Anacrusis at the moment as well.

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier

I`ve never read anything about their debut album being regarded as one of their best, personally I think its an average album with the band finding their feet.

For some reason I keep stumbling on some list or other that has War and Pain as one of the top thrash albums.

TockTockTock · 09-08-2011, 03:25 PM

I find Jesus in Mary Chain's early work to be incredibly dull (I haven't looked into their later stuff yet). All I see is a bunch of amateurish rock musicians composing average post-punk songs and layering them with noisy/distorted guitar riffs.

They helped create a genre (shoegaze), though, so I do have some respect for them. Plus, I enjoyed their cover of Can's "Mushroom."

Howard the Duck · 09-08-2011, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Pat

I find Jesus in Mary Chain's early work to be incredibly dull (I haven't looked into their later stuff yet). All I see is a bunch of amateurish rock musicians composing average post-punk songs and layering them with noisy/distorted guitar riffs.

They helped create a genre (shoegaze), though, so I do have some respect for them. Plus, I enjoyed their cover of Can's "Mushroom."

they're nothing great

and i actually prefer the cleaner Darklands, anyway

Zer0 · 09-09-2011, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack Pat

I find Jesus in Mary Chain's early work to be incredibly dull (I haven't looked into their later stuff yet). All I see is a bunch of amateurish rock musicians composing average post-punk songs and layering them with noisy/distorted guitar riffs.

They helped create a genre (shoegaze), though, so I do have some respect for them. Plus, I enjoyed their cover of Can's "Mushroom."

They're not one of my favourite bands but I certainly enjoy listening to them. I wouldn't say their songs are average, they can write some really beautiful bittersweet songs with memorable hooks as well as loud and nihilistic songs, but that's my perspective. You could call them amateurish rock musicians I guess but they're not exactly trying to be Yes, in their early days they were trying to channel the spirit of The Velvet Underground and punk and had a very minimalistic and simple approach. They had no real interest in musicianship, former bass player Douglas Hart used to play with only two strings. Besides I love the sound of the guitars on Psychocandy.

Their debut Psychocandy is really the only album that features a barrage of noise, their sound was much cleaner after that and focused more on songwriting rather than noise. Darklands is probably my favourite as well as it has some of their most memorable songs but Honey's Dead is a great album as well and retained some shoegaze traits. Automatic is ok but is certainly far from their best, some of the songs even sound like Darklands out-takes. Their last two albums Stoned & Dethroned and Munki are not really worth looking into, Stoned & Dethroned may feature guest vocals from Hope Sandoval but don't be fooled, it's a miscalculated attempt to go Americana. By the time of Munki they had run out of ideas.

TockTockTock · 09-10-2011, 01:42 PM

I felt I was a bit harsh with my judgments of their music... so I decided to listened to their compilation, Barbed Wire Kisses. There's much more variety there, and it wasn't as monotonous as their debut album (which, I admit, is growing on me a little bit). They're certainly not a bad band, but they're no where near as amazing as their fans make them out to be.

Anyways... I'm going to give Darklands a spin. I hope I won't be disappointed.

Queen Boo · 09-11-2011, 03:53 PM

Daft Punk annoys me.

jazzhater · 09-11-2011, 04:20 PM

I think Ozzy Osbourne himself makes better music than with Black Sabbath earlier

TockTockTock · 09-11-2011, 04:23 PM

This is a bit off-topic, but... why do you hate jazz, Jazzhater? Or is your name not meant to be taken seriously and simply as a joke?

jazzhater · 09-11-2011, 04:26 PM

That's a joke) I'm not a jazz fan, but I can stand it and sometimes even enjoy it

09-08-2011, 03:25 PM	#6893 (permalink)
TockTockTock They/Them Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,914	I find Jesus in Mary Chain's early work to be incredibly dull (I haven't looked into their later stuff yet). All I see is a bunch of amateurish rock musicians composing average post-punk songs and layering them with noisy/distorted guitar riffs. They helped create a genre (shoegaze), though, so I do have some respect for them. Plus, I enjoyed their cover of Can's "Mushroom."

09-10-2011, 01:42 PM	#6896 (permalink)
TockTockTock They/Them Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,914	I felt I was a bit harsh with my judgments of their music... so I decided to listened to their compilation, Barbed Wire Kisses. There's much more variety there, and it wasn't as monotonous as their debut album (which, I admit, is growing on me a little bit). They're certainly not a bad band, but they're no where near as amazing as their fans make them out to be. Anyways... I'm going to give Darklands a spin. I hope I won't be disappointed.

09-11-2011, 04:20 PM	#6898 (permalink)
jazzhater Groupie Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 10	I think Ozzy Osbourne himself makes better music than with Black Sabbath earlier

09-11-2011, 04:23 PM	#6899 (permalink)
TockTockTock They/Them Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,914	This is a bit off-topic, but... why do you hate jazz, Jazzhater? Or is your name not meant to be taken seriously and simply as a joke?

09-11-2011, 04:26 PM	#6900 (permalink)
jazzhater Groupie Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 10	That's a joke) I'm not a jazz fan, but I can stand it and sometimes even enjoy it