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Old 02-14-2014, 04:09 PM   #7621 (permalink)
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I love how this thread has become everyone vs. realtalk its everything Ive ever dreamed of

I explained myself pretty clearly. Leave goofle alone he knows what hes talkimg about
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Old 02-14-2014, 04:14 PM   #7622 (permalink)
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You had an opportunity to explain your opinion but you chose not to, so don't get upset just because I am choosing too lol thats what you do on message boards


Its immature to make insults as a bases for an music argument when it has nothing to do with the music
Does not compute.
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Old 02-14-2014, 04:14 PM   #7623 (permalink)
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Saying " I don't like Jacko" is just a immature insult that does not explain anything which is why I said it was an unintelligent response because it was.


I can name 10 Michael Jackson songs you have never heard. You have not heard all of MJ's music which is why I said I think you should listen to his other songs besides his main hits.
Oh you're not one of those 'You have to listen to every single song before you can pass judgement' type people.

Honestly, Jackson released about 6 or 7 songs per album as singles, I doubt the 3 or 4 he didn't are much different.
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Old 02-14-2014, 04:18 PM   #7624 (permalink)
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DJ this does not make any sense

Yes, music is subjective but if someone is saying that Justin Timberlake makes better music than Michael Jackson, saying " I don't like Jacko" does not explain why they think Justin Timberlake's music is better. Even making a simple statement as " I think JT's music is more catchier" explains much more than " I don't like Jacko"

It is just a immature insult that does not explain their opinion on why they think JT's is better.

If people want to make outlandish controversial claims such as that then they need to be prepared for people to challenge it. If some people prefer JT over MJ I really do not care because that is their opinion but I just thought it would be interesting to hear an mature explanation for their opinion since this is a discussion board after all.

Saying " I don't like Jacko" is just a immature insult that does not explain anything which is why I said it was an unintelligent response because it was.


I can name 10 Michael Jackson songs you have never heard. You have not heard all of MJ's music which is why I said I think you should listen to his other songs besides his main hits.

I've listened to all of JT's crappy music and I am not impressed with it. He makes the same boring music and it would benefit him to hook up with a different producer because Timbaland recycles the same production over and over again.
I guess you aren't getting the point that no further explanation is needed beyond "I don't like Jacko's music."

Of course people can challenge outlandish claims but the person making the outlandish claim doesn't owe you any explanation for said claim.

I also said in that same post you quoted that by doing so it doesn't further music discussion any but it's still their choice to do so whether you like it or not.
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Old 02-14-2014, 04:21 PM   #7625 (permalink)
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Oh you're not one of those 'You have to listen to every single song before you can pass judgement' type people.

Honestly, Jackson released about 6 or 7 songs per album as singles, I doubt the 3 or 4 he didn't are much different.
And all those songs do not sound the same.

So are you are saying that Jam, Give In To Me, Remember The Time, Dangerous, In The Closet all sound the same?

I just suggested that maybe he should listen to other songs besides the singles if he thinks they all sound the same.

Objectively speaking, they do not sound the same

Don't Stop Till You Get Enough and Rock with You do not sound the same.

He has a very diverse music catalog.
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Old 02-14-2014, 04:22 PM   #7626 (permalink)
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So which album does he do that 20 minute bangra / jazz fusion epic?
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I guess you aren't getting the point that no further explanation is needed beyond "I don't like Jacko's music."

Of course people can challenge outlandish claims but the person making the outlandish claim doesn't owe you any explanation for said claim.

I also said in that same post you quoted that by doing so it doesn't further music discussion any but it's still their choice to do so whether you like it or not.
I understand that point

What I disagree with is you suggesting that that is good enough explanation when it isn't. Just because they do not have to explain any further does not mean that is a good explanation for their opinion.

No one does not owe me anything on this board. I get that..

I just simply (harmlessly) asked if they could explain their opinion further but it it is evident that most here can not give mature opinions about Michael Jackson's music without insulting him or cracking jokes which has been made clear with all the responses in this thread.
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I just simply (harmlessly) asked if they could explain their opinion further but it it is evident that most here can not give mature opinions about Michael Jackson's music without insulting him or cracking jokes which has been made clear with all the responses in this thread.
Or by you totally misquoting people.

I never said his songs sound all the same, I said I didn't think his non albums tracks are much different to the ones that are released as singles.

I grew up slap bang in the middle of his popularity, I've heard those albums far more than I ever care to. There's nothing you could play me that will ever convince me he's a 'diverse artist'.
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So which album does he do that 20 minute bangra / jazz fusion epic?

Just because a song is 20 minutes long does not mean it is better than songs that are shorter. A song that is that long has to have a lot of creative and artistic production going on to keep people interested in it. If it is just a song that is dragged 20 minutes out without a lot of creativity it can get very boring and repetitive. JT had a few songs on 20/20 experience that were like that that should have been much shorter and the production would have been more interesting and creative if he used real live instruments.

Quality over quantity is very important in that respect.

Can you point out a JT song where he fuses funk/soul/jazz/soft rock/r&b/disco on one song and he uses live instruments to demonstrate these genres?

I can name a bunch of Michael Jackson songs that does...
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