Soulflower

None of those artists have any grammys or any awards by the mass industry and currently they are very underrated.


Mint Condition has been in the industry for over 20 years now and they are an R&B band that writes and composes their own music they dont get any awards. D Angelo experienced some moderate commercial success in the mid 90s but currently he is not mainstream or wins alot of awards. He was one of the most influential artists of the 90s that started the neo soul movement. Sly Family Stone NEVER gets the credit they deserve from the mass industry. Yes, they are legends but they never get their due for what they have done likewise with Funkadelic but then their are bands like The Beatles that are way overrated in comparision. Krs One doesnt get NO credit and he is one of the greatest MCEE's of all time.

Jack White is one of the most talented artists that has came out of the last 15 years and he never gets any credit as a solo artist


An artist can have some moderate commercial success and still be underrated. None of these artists are what I would considered to be mainstream.... they all have not experienced any commercial success in YEARS.

Urban Hat€monger ?

Why would he? He's only been a solo artist a few months.

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Soulflower

He has done alot of work with other artists (solo) wise that goes unappreciated and he has done alot of other solo projects besides his latest work.

VEGANGELICA

I feel all music and bands are over-rated. Music is just a bunch of sounds, the fluff of civilization, and even the most popular songs and memories of bands will fade away eventually, the "glory" of the musicians becoming meaningless and unimportant.

I agree with Neapolitan...

...a thing shouldn't get more respect than a person who is sharing an opinion.

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Recently I have been thinking how many Beatles songs sound unmelodious and irritating to me (their later rambling songs), or overly simplistic and annoying (many of their earlier pop songs). For every song by The Beatles that I love, there are nine that I despise or dislike.

Many Beatles songs don't move me at all and sometimes it seems as if some of the music they made was only popular or given attention because it was by The Beatles, but not because the the songs themselves were so fanastic. Had a less famous band made much of their music, I think it would have been forgotten long ago.

So, I've been thinking that The Beatles are over-rated by music historians...perhaps because music buffs tend to be older and value bands that were once popular when they were young? Or maybe music critics got swept up by the hype over the Beatles, and it made them think much of the music was more appealing or interesting than it really was?

I don't think that many of the Beatles songs will be remembered or listened to in a couple generations. In fact, here's an article that says many teens now don't know who The Beatles are...and this, just 50 years after they were so popular!

Video: Teenagers Don't Know Who The Beatles Are: Gothamist


Beatles Fan Club 2011 - YouTube!

And here's a fun story about how many kids using Twitter couldn't recognize who Paul McCartney was during his Grammy appearance:

People On Twitter Ask Who Is Paul McCartney During Grammys | Happy Place

Also over-rated: Lady Gaga

I like one and a half songs by her (of those I've heard). Today on the radio I heard "Poker Face" (a song that I half-dislike) and I really listened for the first time to her "rap" section in this song. And I thought, this isn't very good rap!

Lyrics:
"I won't tell you that I love you
Kiss or hug you
Cause I'm bluffin' with my muffin
I'm not lying I'm just stunnin' with my love-glue-gunning
Just like a chick in the casino"

It sounds like she's singing about a chicken! Unless she *wants* to be singing about a chicken, she should have scanned her lyrics to eliminate unintended meanings. And "I'm bluffin' with my muffin" sounds like something I'd expect from The Black Eyed Peas. Blech. Which reminds me...

Definitely over-rated: The Black Eyed Peas.
The first song I ever heard by them, I loathed it. The second song was no better. I hate every song by them that I've ever heard. And I mean despise. So I am shocked when I see their music videos getting 130 million views (unless the viewers are people like me who are listening just to try to figure out why the song has 130 million views ). I agree with wisdom's opinion of The Black Eyed Peas (expressed eloquently elsewhere on MusicBanter.)

Horror song: "Boom Boom Pow"
Makes me want to annihilate the planet, boom boom!


The Black Eyed Peas - Boom Boom Pow - YouTube

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Neapolitan

I don't think music as form of art is over-rated. Opinions and other thing that relate to music can be over-rated, but not music generally as art can be over-rated - I don't think. Maybe "music is a bunch of sounds" and maybe even noise to those not interested in music or a particular type of music, like the way collecting trains can be seen as a waste of money to those not in that hobby. But when you think about it there is something emotional (and even something compulsive) about train collecting to the train enthusiast and the same thing can be the music fan. If there is a fair amount of understanding what is going on with music or in a particular genre generally people enjoy it and it is meaningful to them.


Thanks.

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AndrahilAdrian

Those are contradictory orders, so I'll do them in the order you suggested: first I'll substantiate my argument, then I'll answer your question, then I'll **** off.

I'm fairly accepting of a broad range of genres. Even those that aren't to my taste, such as country, reggae, and rap, have a few artists I can appreciate (Johnny Cash, Bob Marley, and Kanye West, for instance). Metal is the glaring exception. There has never been a metal band I've liked, and there never will be. The fundamental premises of the genre (absurd levels of distortion, over-long, self-congratulatory guitar solos, harsh vocals, a disdain for melody) are just plain unmusical. If a heavy metal band was good, it wouldn't be heavy metal. I think on some level metalheads realize this, so they don't talk about their music the way fans of actual music do. Nobody ever calls an Iron Maiden or Cannibal Corpse song "beautiful", they say it's "badass" or "Intense". Its like they take pride in listening to music that's as noisy, abrasive, and downright nasty as possible. In a way, this is justified; anyone who can listen to metal for more than a few minutes without getting a headache is made of sterner stuff than me. And then there's the rediculous "aesthetic"; the face paint and the absurdly long hair and the sexist machismo and the single-minded focus on being as offensive as possible. This wouldn't be a problem if this attitude didn't extend to the music itself, which is rooted in Black Sabbath's focus on outraging people rather than, you know, being good. The only good things about metal are the hilarious band names, like Prostitute Disfigurement and Cock And Ball Torture and Circle of Dead Children and so on. They probably think they're really scary and unnerving, or retain a pretentious belief that they are somehow "pushing boundaries" or "exposing humanity's dark side" (see: Marilyn Manson). In actuality they are just a bunch of immature morons making terrible music for dumb rednecks and social misfits. I find it hard to believe anyone actually likes this stuff; I'm convinced they only pretend to because they think enjoying noises normal people think are unpleasant makes them special. If even one person saw metal as anything other than complete and total garbage, it would be overrated. Yes, metal is a vast genre ecompassing various testaments to human stupidity. If you like your stupidity served with a side of pretension, try prog metal or symphonic metal. If you like new age lunatic stupidity, check out pagan or folk metal. If you're into skinhead racist stupidity, take a look at teutonic metal. If you feel like the patented Vanilla Ice brand of stupidity, try rap metal. And if you want to out-stupid the stupids, listen to death metal. Do you know what all these myriad subgenres have in common? That's right, they're all totally stupid. Metal is fundamentally stupid. So I can dismiss any band that plays metal out of hand.

Neapolitan

Please whatever you don't listen to Howard the Duck - don't **** off. You only made three post and somehow your my favorite poster.

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Howard the Duck

^^you do know there are stuff that stress melodies and atmosphere, don't you?

also under "metal"

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Malaise is THE dominant human predilection.

Neapolitan

And you do know there is stuff like KISS that stresses make-up and S&M outfits.

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AndrahilAdrian

Well mate, if you direct me to a metal song with a bona fide melody I'll duly listen to it. I doubt you will, since metal is diametrically opposed to melody, instead employing power chords, masturbatory solos, and general loudness to woo its suggestible audience. A metal song with melody probably wouldn't even qualify as metal. Even if it did, the melody would be lost beneath all that hideous distortion. Basically, metal is musical cancer, and if you like it, there's something wrong with you. Of course, metal fans likely take that as a compliment, since, as I said, they judge their music very differently from how normal people do; abrasion and general unlistenable-ness are signs that the music is "intense". A metal song with melody and tune would betray the fundamental tenents of metal.