The Definitve List: Most Overrated Bands\Artists ever (lyrics, alternative)

Beany · 07-04-2008, 06:07 PM

Why are Coldplay over rated? I think they're over rated because they just don't take enough risks. I don't know if they're trying to be this great melodic band or if they're trying to do stadium filling anthems. There's nothing to say that they can't do both but they just seem to sit on the fence between both too much.
They're rockier stuff lacks balls and just has no edge to it at all. While they're slower stuff(apart from the Scientist which I love) puts Chris Martins voice to the front and ruins any chance of the songs being half decent. (see Fix You).

They're elevator music at best for me. They're harmless. If they came on the radio I wouldn't necessarily turn them off, but when they're being celebrated as one of the best bands in the world then I take offense to it. lol Then there's the Chris Martin factor. I'm sure he's a nice guy and I've nothing against him personally. It's just his live performance. Seeing him jump up and down at the piano and do the same stage act(hoping across the stage like a kangaroo) tires really quickly. (see bo selecta skit on his dance moves.
YouTube - Bo Selecta - Good Fun With Chris Martin)
The fact he seems to be doing his best to copy Bono in every way annoys me too.

Most Over-rated album - X and Y (Every magazine seemed to give the album 5 out of 5 when it came out. A lot of them have changed their minds when talking about it in relation to their new album now though.)

Most Over-rated song - Clocks. I really don't get why this song is liked so much. Let alone why it was a single.

lucifer_sam · 07-04-2008, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Beany

Why are Coldplay over rated? I think they're over rated because they just don't take enough risks. I don't know if they're trying to be this great melodic band or if they're trying to do stadium filling anthems. There's nothing to say that they can't do both but they just seem to sit on the fence between both too much.
They're rockier stuff lacks balls and just has no edge to it at all. While they're slower stuff(apart from the Scientist which I love) puts Chris Martins voice to the front and ruins any chance of the songs being half decent. (see Fix You).

They're elevator music at best for me. They're harmless. If they came on the radio I wouldn't necessarily turn them off, but when they're being celebrated as one of the best bands in the world then I take offense to it. lol Then there's the Chris Martin factor. I'm sure he's a nice guy and I've nothing against him personally. It's just his live performance. Seeing him jump up and down at the piano and do the same stage act(hoping across the stage like a kangaroo) tires really quickly. (see bo selecta skit on his dance moves.
YouTube - Bo Selecta - Good Fun With Chris Martin)
The fact he seems to be doing his best to copy Bono in every way annoys me too.

I think you answered yourself quite well. =)

That is why.

WaspStar · 07-04-2008, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Beany

If they came on the radio I wouldn't necessarily turn them off, but when they're being celebrated as one of the best bands in the world then I take offense to it.

You nailed it.

Son of JayJamJah · 07-04-2008, 06:08 PM

Thanks Beany

that'll do quite well.

Molecules · 07-04-2008, 06:24 PM

I actually remember listening to Rush of Blood To the Head when it came out and thinking that the non-single tracks were pretty good, really atmospheric. But that was a long time ago. There's no excuse for this kind of mediocre drivel being forced on the public the way it is.

After the apocalypse when we're all tearing around in cyber-punk biker gangs, picking up minimal-techno pirate stations on coat-hanger antennas, I'll be happy. Until then just say NO.

Prince rules

Piss Me Off · 07-05-2008, 01:37 PM

The End is rubbish? I thought that song was untouchable myself. It's a beautifully composed song, creates amazing images in my mind.

cody222111 · 07-05-2008, 02:37 PM

Reading some of the titles on the "Overrated list" I gotta say your out of your mind. Half the list were the people who changed or defined there era or genre. Im surprised you dont have Elvis on there because he sold records because of controversy.

I agree with....
Radiohead
The Grateful Dead
Snoop - hes still better than todays rap btw

but dude
-Nirvana?!?! The band who defined grunge music and if Kurt Cobain was a musical genious whats wrong with you? they would of been legendary.
-The Doors, The Eagles, Kiss, and the Rolling Stones how can you be overrated if we still listen to there music today?
-Coldplay isn't overrated they just sell alot of albums, people actully love there music.
-Eminem - sparked more controversy than anyone since elvis, also a rapper who didn't appeal to what the public wanted to hear he just told his story. He was also lyrically one of the best alive.
-Tupac - you kidding? have you listened to rap today compared to Tupac? hes an all time great of his genre.

Son of JayJamJah · 07-05-2008, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by cody222111

Reading some of the titles on the "Overrated list" I gotta say your out of your mind. Half the list were the people who changed or defined there era or genre. Im surprised you dont have Elvis on there because he sold records because of controversy.

I agree with....
Radiohead
The Grateful Dead
Snoop - hes still better than todays rap btw

but dude
-Nirvana?!?! The band who defined grunge music and if Kurt Cobain was a musical genious whats wrong with you? they would of been legendary.
-The Doors, The Eagles, Kiss, and the Rolling Stones how can you be overrated if we still listen to there music today?
-Coldplay isn't overrated they just sell alot of albums, people actully love there music.
-Eminem - sparked more controversy than anyone since elvis, also a rapper who didn't appeal to what the public wanted to hear he just told his story. He was also lyrically one of the best alive.
-Tupac - you kidding? have you listened to rap today compared to Tupac? hes an all time great of his genre.

I think you'll find there are compelling counterpoints to all your contentions. Also it's been mentioned in multiple posts throughout the thread that all of the bands on the list are good if not very good. Overrated suggests nothing about the quality of a band, except relative to critical acclaim\review.

I'll get more in depth as I address each artist on the list, however to breifly touch on it since I've never seen you on here before.

Nirvana was the face of the movement to be sure, but the crux of my argument will be that it's not unfair to suggest musically there are several bands of the era that have as good or better material and a much longer discography.

The Doors, were just addressed, The Eagles are on deck (but you won't win that argument here) Kiss is sort of viewed as a novelty now-a-days and the Stones, for all their greatness have plenty to critique and frankly haven't produced an interesting song in nearly 20 years.

Eminem - I won't be able to change your mind, but in reality he has 1 good album (That i grew tired of in months) and a bunch of questionable material. His singles are corny and do not hold up over time, he lacks the discipline to put together a consistent liuve show let alone tour. Even his biggest fans could do 10 paragraphs on his shortcomings and faults if they were honest.

2-PAC - A lot like Nirvana, timing made the legacy more then the discography and while his words are pretty good and there are some interesting song concepts especially on "All eyes on me" over all it's not nearly the most impressive collection in hip-hop as it is sometimes granted.

Hope you'll follow the thread and offer your opinions especially those that differ from mine.

Son of JayJamJah · 07-05-2008, 04:37 PM

Obviously I did not know that or I would have used another song. I looked it up it's Willie Dixon, the liner notes don't mention that however. Thanks for the correction, I'll edit the post.

Beany · 07-05-2008, 04:52 PM

Gotta say I agree with the inclusion of John Lennon's solo stuff. And can I put in a early request for Imagine as the most over-rated song of his. I know it's his biggest hit and for that reason it's the biggest target to be touted as 'over-rated' but I've just never gotten the hype surrounding it. The amount of times that song has come out on top as the best song of all time is criminal. It's a dull monontonous song that doesn't tug on the heart strings. It just winds and meanders on. This isn't me being unappreciative of slower more reflective songs. They're my favourite type of songs. This just does nothing for me.

Anyone at all out there agree with me?!

07-04-2008, 06:07 PM	#1 (permalink)
Beany Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ireland Posts: 58	Why are Coldplay over rated? I think they're over rated because they just don't take enough risks. I don't know if they're trying to be this great melodic band or if they're trying to do stadium filling anthems. There's nothing to say that they can't do both but they just seem to sit on the fence between both too much. They're rockier stuff lacks balls and just has no edge to it at all. While they're slower stuff(apart from the Scientist which I love) puts Chris Martins voice to the front and ruins any chance of the songs being half decent. (see Fix You). They're elevator music at best for me. They're harmless. If they came on the radio I wouldn't necessarily turn them off, but when they're being celebrated as one of the best bands in the world then I take offense to it. lol Then there's the Chris Martin factor. I'm sure he's a nice guy and I've nothing against him personally. It's just his live performance. Seeing him jump up and down at the piano and do the same stage act(hoping across the stage like a kangaroo) tires really quickly. (see bo selecta skit on his dance moves. YouTube - Bo Selecta - Good Fun With Chris Martin) The fact he seems to be doing his best to copy Bono in every way annoys me too. Most Over-rated album - X and Y (Every magazine seemed to give the album 5 out of 5 when it came out. A lot of them have changed their minds when talking about it in relation to their new album now though.) Most Over-rated song - Clocks. I really don't get why this song is liked so much. Let alone why it was a single. __________________ Well I got this guitar and I learned how to make it talk

07-04-2008, 06:24 PM	#5 (permalink)
Molecules daddy don't Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: the Wastes Posts: 2,577	I actually remember listening to Rush of Blood To the Head when it came out and thinking that the non-single tracks were pretty good, really atmospheric. But that was a long time ago. There's no excuse for this kind of mediocre drivel being forced on the public the way it is. After the apocalypse when we're all tearing around in cyber-punk biker gangs, picking up minimal-techno pirate stations on coat-hanger antennas, I'll be happy. Until then just say NO. Prince rules __________________ [SIZE="1"]Eff em tumble her

07-05-2008, 01:37 PM	#6 (permalink)
Piss Me Off Moodswings n' Roundabouts Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: At the corner of Dude and Catastrophe Posts: 4,470	The End is rubbish? I thought that song was untouchable myself. It's a beautifully composed song, creates amazing images in my mind. __________________ Last FM Rate Yr Music Muxtape

07-05-2008, 02:37 PM	#7 (permalink)
cody222111 Groupie Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 13	WOW what? Reading some of the titles on the "Overrated list" I gotta say your out of your mind. Half the list were the people who changed or defined there era or genre. Im surprised you dont have Elvis on there because he sold records because of controversy. I agree with.... Radiohead The Grateful Dead Snoop - hes still better than todays rap btw but dude -Nirvana?!?! The band who defined grunge music and if Kurt Cobain was a musical genious whats wrong with you? they would of been legendary. -The Doors, The Eagles, Kiss, and the Rolling Stones how can you be overrated if we still listen to there music today? -Coldplay isn't overrated they just sell alot of albums, people actully love there music. -Eminem - sparked more controversy than anyone since elvis, also a rapper who didn't appeal to what the public wanted to hear he just told his story. He was also lyrically one of the best alive. -Tupac - you kidding? have you listened to rap today compared to Tupac? hes an all time great of his genre.

07-05-2008, 04:52 PM	#10 (permalink)
Beany Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ireland Posts: 58	Gotta say I agree with the inclusion of John Lennon's solo stuff. And can I put in a early request for Imagine as the most over-rated song of his. I know it's his biggest hit and for that reason it's the biggest target to be touted as 'over-rated' but I've just never gotten the hype surrounding it. The amount of times that song has come out on top as the best song of all time is criminal. It's a dull monontonous song that doesn't tug on the heart strings. It just winds and meanders on. This isn't me being unappreciative of slower more reflective songs. They're my favourite type of songs. This just does nothing for me. Anyone at all out there agree with me?! __________________ Well I got this guitar and I learned how to make it talk

07-04-2008, 06:08 PM	#4 (permalink)
Son of JayJamJah Occams Razor Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: End of the Earth Posts: 2,472	Thanks Beany that'll do quite well.

07-05-2008, 04:37 PM	#9 (permalink)
Son of JayJamJah Occams Razor Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: End of the Earth Posts: 2,472	Obviously I did not know that or I would have used another song. I looked it up it's Willie Dixon, the liner notes don't mention that however. Thanks for the correction, I'll edit the post.