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View Poll Results: Does John Peel deserve to make the Hall of Fame?
Yes 11 91.67%
No 1 8.33%
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Old 05-19-2009, 02:08 PM   #1421 (permalink)
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10 to 1?

I voted yes but honestly it was barely so...
Whatever, I think I'm just pissed that PiL failed to be nominated.

I guess Nick Cave deserves to be nominated, but honestly I don't think we need him when he have the simular but far superior Bob Dylan.
What does that mean? Why should it matter if Dylan is inducted? Does that make every other singer/songwriter not worth inducting? A great artist is a great artist. It shouldn't be about "well we already have an artist inducted who represents this kind of music"

Besides, I don't sense any real stylistic similarity between Cave and Dylan. Like Urban said, Cave is more kin to Johnny Cash than Dylan, he also comes off to me as somewhat of a modern day crooner. The hipster Sinatra if you will.
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The toughest one for me so far. Selfishly I'd say yes, but looking at other bands that have been excluded makes me go back and forth. I'm thinking yes for now and I'll reevaluate when the hall of fame induction voting comes around.
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What does that mean? Why should it matter if Dylan is inducted? Does that make every other singer/songwriter not worth inducting? A great artist is a great artist. It shouldn't be about "well we already have an artist inducted who represents this kind of music"

Besides, I don't sense any real stylistic similarity between Cave and Dylan. Like Urban said, Cave is more kin to Johnny Cash than Dylan, he also comes off to me as somewhat of a modern day crooner. The hipster Sinatra if you will.
I'm just saying, there is nothing particularly special about Nick Cave. But being merely a passive fan of both Cave and Dylan I'll withdraw my argument.
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I only have Birthday Party stuff, and don't really like it...at all. What Bad Seeds album should I get?
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I only have Birthday Party stuff, and don't really like it...at all. What Bad Seeds album should I get?
My personal favourite is No More Shall We Part. I think Henry's Dream and Let Love In are the best starting points though. Dig Lazarus Dig is all kinds of awesome too.
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i'm in the process of reassessment of his works and so far along i've been impressed. the depth of his discography is pretty extensive and on that basis he certainly deserves a spot in the MB hall of fame.
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Nick Cave is through with comfort.

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The Monks



The Monks only ever released one album, but bloody hell....what an album. It seems to have influenced quite a few folk, including The Beastie Boys and Mark E Smith. So here's my review of that seminal album, with some live clips from youtube thrown in at the end.

Sooooo yeah......Discuss!

The Monks - Black Monk Time
(1966)



Tracks

1 Monk Time 2:42
2 Shut Up 3:11
3 Boys Are Boys and Girls Are Choice 1:23
4 Higgle-Dy-Piggle-Dy 2:28
5 I Hate You 3:32
6 Oh, How to Do Now 3:14
7 Complication 2:21
8 We Do Wie Du 2:09
9 Drunken Maria 1:44
10 Love Came Tumblin' Down 2:28
11 Blast Off! 2:12
12 That's My Girl 2:24

The Torquays were formed in 1964 in Germany by five American GIs based over there. They were really your typical bog standard Beat covers act, which most average bands of that period were.

But in 1966 they emerged, no longer in the army, with new monk style bald patches on their heads, all black clothing, a new name and a totally new and unique style all of their own; The Monks were born, with a live act and a sound quite simply in a league of its own.

Their only album, Black Monk Time, was released in 1966 on Polydor after being recorded in the dark nights of November 1965. To say this band and their one and only studio album release were unique, is literally an understatement, with the impact of it still not being fully appreciated by the general public.

This album release as with so many great cult records was a commercial flop, having mixed and patchy success in Germany, but not even registering a murmur in the US or Britain. But as with all great cult records; it will find a way of getting into your life somehow and thank the maker this has got into mine.

The album begins with Monk Time; highlights of this song include the marvellous vocals of Gary Burger and the lyrics which have to be read to fully appreciate what a stunning opener it is….

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Alright, my name's Gary.
Let's go, it's beat time, it's hop time, it's monk time now!
You know we don't like the army.
What army?
Who cares what army?
Why do you kill all those kids over there in Vietnam?
Mad Viet Cong.
My brother died in Vietnam!
James Bond, who was he?
Stop it, stop it, I don't like it!
It's too loud for my ears.
Pussy Galore's comin' down and we like it.
We don’t like the atomic bomb.
Stop it, stop it, I don't like it . . . stop it!
What's your meaning Larry?
Ahh, you think like I think!
You're a monk, I'm a monk, we're all monks!
Dave, Larry, Eddie, Roger, everybody, let's go!
It's beat time, it's hop time, it's monk time now!


This triumphant opener is followed up with the fabulously named Shut-Up, with its fantastic use of the organ and the almost football terrace rhythm it has to it. This is followed by Boys are Boys and Girls are Choice, which is one of those songs at just over a minute that is very much short and sweet.

Further down the track list is track 5, I Hate You, which is yet another showcase for the marvellous wailing vocals of Gary Burger, as well as demonstrating the sheer ahead of its time nature of The Monks musical output, I really do struggle to believe this song was recorded in 1965.

The same can be said for track 6; Oh, How To Do Now sounds so far beyond the pale and quite clearly influential to later artists, that when it comes to groundbreaking, I’m surprised anyone even bothers mention Revolver anymore as 1966’s finest. You might think that I am just saying that for effect, but seriously, this album is a real surprise.

In subsequent years, this album has been reissued with some extra gems which oddly did not make the final cut; these include the brilliant Cuckoo, Love Can Tame The Wild and Monk Chant……marvellous.

Black Monk Time is an album filled with rhythm, angst and an anger, yet is all wrapped up in a quirky, raw, but catchy package which is rather appealing on the ears. This is punk music in its earliest form, but punk music with an electronic banjo, an organ and a beyond eccentric sound which makes you warm to this band and their music instantly.

An absolutely quality piece of work and an eye opener to anyone who believes that The Beatles' Revolver album was the only landmark album to come out of 1966. A Must


Monk Chant


Oh, How To Do Now


Boys are Boys & Girls are Choice


Cuckoo
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I disagree but whatever. If people played "fair" and just voted objectively then we'd have a hall of fame consisting of Led Zeppelin, the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd and the Who; which would be boring.
But thats because of the voting system, not because of preference. If you didn't need an 80% positive rating to make it in, it would be fine.

Or if we restricted it to members who represent the boards and not (with no disrespect intended) the floaters who blew in from the wind for a week.
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Or if we restricted it to members who represent the boards and not (with no disrespect intended) the floaters who blew in from the wind for a week.
Looking at the polls each week there really aren't that many of them, and the few of that there are join the, usually quite large, majority.

As for the Monks it's a huuuuuuge yes. I've only had the album for a few months but i'm confident in saying it's in my top 10 60's albums. It's eccentric, it's catchy and most of all it's fun, 3 factors i always look for in music. Essential stuff.
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