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Old 02-03-2014, 10:54 PM   #21 (permalink)
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its like when girls ask and i say that im a grower not a shower. and then i try showin them my cd collection and itunes library and they just wanna take off my pants, its whatevs
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Old 02-03-2014, 11:06 PM   #22 (permalink)
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its like when girls ask and i say that im a grower not a shower. and then i try showin them my cd collection and itunes library and they just wanna take off my pants, its whatevs
you don't shower? I am surprise girls even talk to you.
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Yeah, I told you about that is how I got into early Genesis. I didn't know they were "growers." Once I got to understand the albums better music-wise I thought they were great. I think that only happens with bands I am already into, because I don't like what I hear right off I won't give it repeat tries. Yes the first two and Relayer had grow on me, Tales has yet to grow, but Paul played part of it in plug and I liked what I heard. Some albums grow faster than others, some burn out, and other I think are epic right off the bat.
Tales from Topographic Oceans is a fine example of an album that I didn't really get at first, but I knew that there was something really great and attention demanding so I gave it a few spins and really attentively immersed myself in it, and while I wont say it's one of my favorite albums, my opinion of it improved drastically from the first initial listen. Relayer to a lesser extent was the same way.
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As for the overall topic of growers, I don't think there are albums that grow on me. If I don't like an album for a specific reason then I won't try to torture myself by replaying it until I break down and finally start liking it. That's exactly what it sounds like you guys are doing.
I don't think anyone in this thread is talking about "torturing" themselves with music they hate. More like being open to giving something more than one chance.
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Yeah that doesn't happen with me at all. When I find a song I really like. I will replay it and burn through it until I am sick of it but it doesn't mean I don't like it anymore or have grown wary. I just reach a point where I am satisfied with the song and no longer feel the need to constantly repeat it.

As for the overall topic of growers, I don't think there are albums that grow on me. If I don't like an album for a specific reason then I won't try to torture myself by replaying it until I break down and finally start liking it. That's exactly what it sounds like you guys are doing.

If I don't like the way that an album starts out I will stick it out and make sure that I listen to the whole think because I tend to end up finding tracks that are gems hiding in the rough later on or I find something about a track that sounds pleasing to my ears.
Pretty much my way of looking at it too. I know some people say "Oh you have to hear this album!" and I might but then not like it; it's unlikely though that I'd then keep trying to like it, saying "What am I missing?" It just may not be for me. It's like someone saying (and I hate this) you'll love a certain food. How do they know? You might hate it. The phrase "You're gonna love it!" is a really annoying thing for anyone to say to me. But back OT, look at Daft Punk: I tried it not because everyone else said it was great (well, partly) but because I heard a snippet on TV and liked it. Had I though run the album and hated it that would have been it: I wouldn't have kept trying. Once I know I'm not into an album I usually leave it. What's the point of trying to force yourself to like it? It's like (going back to the food/drink example) "an acquired taste". Huh? You either like something or you don't: you shouldn't have to acquire the taste for it...

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Yeah, I told you about that is how I got into early Genesis. I didn't know they were "growers." Once I got to understand the albums better music-wise I thought they were great. I think that only happens with bands I am already into, because I don't like what I hear right off I won't give it repeat tries. Yes the first two and Relayer had grow on me, Tales has yet to grow, but Paul played part of it in plug and I liked what I heard. Some albums grow faster than others, some burn out, and other I think are epic right off the bat.
Yeah well for me that would be different because I was into Genesis from day one, but taking an example from that, their worst album imo, "Abacab". I did try to like it but I never will. It's never going to grow on me. Some tracks I like but it will always be my least favourite of those and nobody and no amount of listens is going to convince me otherwise.
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I don't think anyone in this thread is talking about "torturing" themselves with music they hate. More like being open to giving something more than one chance.
Yeah that's probably overstated but you know what he means: why push yourself to like an album you don't believe you ever will? I tried several times to get into "Tarkus" and I just hated it. I don't care how many others think it's a classic. I don't like it and it will never appeal to me.
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There are albums that Ill hear once (or not even get through it once) and i will know that its unlikely ill ever listen to it again. But there are albums that ill dislike, but there is something that will make me come back to it later (usually months or years). I remember hating Godspeed the first few times, but something kept me coming back. And then eventually it hit me. Hard. And now i love em.

Im still trying to like Dummy. Its an album Ive always thought id really like but for whatever reason i dont. But it has that intangible and undefinable *quality* that keeps me coming back to it every once and a while. One day..

And then there are albums that ill like originally but theyll become more stale as time goes by. I will rarely hate something i used to like but might become indifferent to the point where i wont listen to it anymore. Focus by Cynic is one of those for me although maybe itll come back to me if i hold off listening to it for a long while.

Music is a very crazy thing eh
Are we the same person?! Seriously, I had the exact same thing happen with G!YBE. Didn't get the fuss at first, now I love them. And the same way about Dummy. Considering the type of music I usually like, I should totally love Dummy, and it seems like a low of people really love that album, but I just... don't. I've listened to it a few times, and it's not that I disliked it or anything, it was just... meh. But then there's that quality that it has that makes me WANT to really love it.

EDIT: just realized you probably meant Godspeed the metal band, not Godspeed You! Black Emperor. Oh well, I'm leaving it because G!YBE is relevant to the discussion.

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Yeah well for me that would be different because I was into Genesis from day one, but taking an example from that, their worst album imo, "Abacab". I did try to like it but I never will. It's never going to grow on me. Some tracks I like but it will always be my least favourite of those and nobody and no amount of listens is going to convince me otherwise.
Yeah well for me that would be different because I loved the album Abacab. The least favorite album was We Can't Dance even allmusic gave it a lower rating than Abacab. Every time I see you complain about the album I give it another listen, trying to find something wrong with it and I always find it an incredible album. Phil's lyrics were a bit loopy. However I thought Tony Banks was at his peak he was/is amazing. Like it or not you have to admit Like It Or Not is one of their best tracks ever.
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Yeah well for me that would be different because I loved the album Abacab. The least favorite album was We Can't Dance even allmusic gave it a lower rating than Abacab. Every time I see you complain about the album I give it another listen, trying to find something wrong with it and I always find it an incredible album. Phil's lyrics were a bit loopy. However I thought Tony Banks was at his peak he was/is amazing. Like it or not you have to admit Like It Or Not is one of their best tracks ever.
Not sure if you meant that: Like it or not said twice! Actually I do like that track, but one of their best ever? Pfah! "One for the vine", "White mountain", even "Burning rope" piss all over it. Abacab was Genesis' attempt to go all pop and it failed, but you're entitled to your opinion of course. I like WCD, but can pick out maybe three, possibly four tracks on Abacab that I like or can stand. I mean: "Another record?" The godawful "Whodunnit?" Please!

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Yeah that's probably overstated but you know what he means: why push yourself to like an album you don't believe you ever will? I tried several times to get into "Tarkus" and I just hated it. I don't care how many others think it's a classic. I don't like it and it will never appeal to me.
I don't see giving something a second chance as pushing myself to like it. I just see it as recognition of the fact that an album clicking with me often depends on my mood or the circumstances I listen to it under, and that many albums require more than a casual listen to be fully appreciated.
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I don't think anyone in this thread is talking about "torturing" themselves with music they hate. More like being open to giving something more than one chance.
I don't think it has anything to do with being open. Also I guess that's your experience with first listens to albums that you just do it casually but when I listen to an album the first time through I give it my full attention to pick apart the things that I do/don't like about it.

Which I guess is only something that I do and not anyone else in this thread.
Maybe Trollheart does as well.
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