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Old 05-03-2014, 07:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default How to Portray Emotion Through Music

When it comes to music, emotion and getting that emotion across to the audience is the most important thing to me. I feel that if practically no one interprets any music I create the way I do and it just comes out as something that is either completely different to anyone else (has a different feel to everyone else than what I feel from it), and/or has no emotion to anyone else but me, then I will be all alone with my own interpretations.

Now music theory just involves you learning about scales, note lengths, etc. and does explain the emotional (psychological aspects) of music to a certain degree. But it does not fully explain the psychological aspects. For example, if you wanted to create a song that is happy, music theory would just simply say to do that, you would use a major scale (the white keys). But if I were to just tap away at a bunch of random white keys (that does have rhythm and would technically be a song), even though it is in fact a song, it does not portray any emotion due to it being a bunch of random white keys and would, therefore, not be happy or anything. So there is clearly something more deep in terms of portraying emotion through music. Another example would be that there are different feelings of happiness (there is cheerful, motivational, heroic, etc.), so how would you know what combination of notes/rests to use to portray the specific feeling of happiness that you want? Music theory does not answer that (or does it)? This is obviously where music psychology would come in handy. It would be a book/teaching that explains the psychology behind knowing what combinations of notes/rests/instruments to use, etc. in order to portray the exact feeling that you want.

Is there such a teaching available on Youtube? If so, could you give me the link? It would be interesting to know the logical explanation behind my musical interpretations and everyone else's. It would be interesting to know if my musical interpretations are illogical and false and don't follow any given musical logic according to music theory and music psychology (some interpretation outside the realm of musical logic that I've just simply applied to my music), or if my musical interpretations really are true and it's just a matter of having the right audience who does have a knowledge of my style of music.
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Old 05-03-2014, 07:15 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The best advice I can gove you is write from the heart. No way everyone is going to interpet your sound exactly how you meant it but there will be people who get it. If youre really tryin to convey emotion it will sound forced or you might get lost in thought thinking too much. Just let it flow man, thats what I do. Thats the most natural emotion youre gonna get dude!
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The best advice I can gove you is write from the heart. No way everyone is going to interpet your sound exactly how you meant it but there will be people who get it. If youre really tryin to convey emotion it will sound forced or you might get lost in thought thinking too much. Just let it flow man, thats what I do. Thats the most natural emotion youre gonna get dude!
But there would be no logic in this. In order to do anything right and skillfully, you need to have knowledge in order to do so. In my case, I wish to create music that portrays emotion that the general audience (practically everyone) can agree with. In order to do that, you would have to have musical knowledge of how the mind of the general audience works. There are many composers who are very successful at doing this, but it wouldn't be because they just created songs from the heart. If that were the case, anyone can be successful at anything if they did everything from the heart. I could be the next Stephen Hawking having no knowledge of physics if I just came up with scientific ideas of my own from the heart. Therefore, great composers clearly had some "musical guidebook to the human mind" of some sort and I wish to know where I can get it or what link there is on Youtube that teaches this.
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But there would be no logic in this. In order to do anything right and skillfully, you need to have knowledge in order to do so. In my case, I wish to create music that portrays emotion that the general audience (practically everyone) can agree with. In order to do that, you would have to have musical knowledge of how the mind of the general audience works. There are many composers who are very successful at doing this, but it wouldn't be because they just created songs from the heart. If that were the case, anyone can be successful at anything if they did everything from the heart. I could be the next Stephen Hawking having no knowledge of physics if I just came up with scientific ideas of my own from the heart. Therefore, great composers clearly had some "musical guidebook to the human mind" of some sort and I wish to know where I can get it or what link there is on Youtube that teaches this.
Youre looking at from the wrong mindset you think the best composers had youtube vodeos to reference? Come on man, music is its own being, youre looking too much of a literal perspective. Being a musician is all about feeling and vibe, your focusing too much on whay others think about your music. The last thing k think about when im writinf is whay people think abiut my music, I like it and my friends dig it too. Thats all that matters, of other people like too then its just icing on the cake nah mean
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Old 05-04-2014, 03:14 PM   #5 (permalink)
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You seem to want a shortcut for greatness

If you want to learn how to convey your emotions better through a song just look at the music artists that move you through their songs, they serve as your mentors HOWEVER it's like Psychedub told you, you gotta do you and find your own way of expressing yourself like they did.

And im srry, Trying to make music that everybody likes is a recipe for mediocre ppl pleasing mainstream garbage, Not everybody will get your message or care, you can only hope you convey it well enough that some ppl will get it, and if it strikes a nerve and everybody relates to it, GREAT, but it has to start from your own personal views that don't need mass approval. only then does it feel genuine.
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yeah. endeavour to make music that you can honestly say that you consider to be good. you can't do any more than that. then it's up to other people how they interpret it. there's no 'rulebook' on that one
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You can pull faces like your sucking on lemons and or getting kicked in the nuts, if you look like your taking a dump, your on the right track to portraying the emotion of voiding ones bowels, a subject which curiously lacks appropriate musical accompiniant, much to my dismay.

Perhaps you can fill this niche in the music world, "Music to crap too" has an air of "Platinum album" to it.
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Emotion, you say? Scream, loud.
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From someone who knows absolute feck all about harmonic scales, a B flat or 7/8 time all I can say is that is sincerity in a musicians music( or a lack of) is something I can spot from a mile off.

It either moves you or it doesn't regardless of the musical dexterity.

I should add 'Intrigue you' too.
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