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Old 03-31-2018, 06:36 PM   #71 (permalink)
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She absolutely sounds like she's singing in some post-post-grunge band who are going for hard rock but have their roots way too far in mid-late 00s post-grunge to escape that tag.
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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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She absolutely sounds like she's singing in some post-post-grunge band who are going for hard rock but have their roots way too far in mid-late 00s post-grunge to escape that tag.
I don't even get that. I'd describe the singing style as 'heavy metal' before anything else. I don't know what post-grunge bands you've heard that I haven't, but maybe I'd dig them!
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That 1992-1996 period is just such an aberration, it's as if the whole music industry and quite a few fans went insane for no particular reason, rejecting everything that had come before and becoming totally devoted to what became a pretty short fad. Grunge didn't just lead to the death of hair metal. It led to the death of melodic hard rock and heavy metal in general, at least for a decade, and took hard rock from a widely popular and diverse fanbase to a niche market.
I think it all depends on where you wer at the time..melodic hard rock/heavy metall was still going strong here in Sweden. In the US, I can't think of any bands that topped the popular charts at the time but I don't think that anyone really cared at the time. And I don't think that anyone who really listened to bands like Jane's Addiction really cared if their music was placing higher than "Heart Shaped Box".

You are right that Cobain was no music genius..but he wasn't bad. I think it is a shame he died so young and that did effect his fame. But that always happens and he did have a different sound at the time. I don't care if little kids are walking around with Nirvana shirts.

The whole grunge scene to me just seemed like a bit of a phase. Just people who wanted to listen to something they deemed "alternative" from the mainstream. These bands that were declared "alternative" from the mainstream were opening up for mainstream bands (Such as Pearl Jam opening for U2 on their Zooropa tour) .And then it got big and all of a sudden, it wasn't as cool to listen to as before. But alot of good bands came out of it such as Bush and Live. And their music led to other such music.

The whole Britney, Backstreet Boys boyband phase was just an evolution of NKOTB and Tiffany. That kind of crap had been going on for a looong time and was / is always popular.

I wish the swing band fad of the 90s hadn't peetered out personally..that was a really fun thing. But then it always did continue, just not as mainstream. Who really cares right?

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I don't even get that. I'd describe the singing style as 'heavy metal' before anything else. I don't know what post-grunge bands you've heard that I haven't, but maybe I'd dig them!
She sounds like a chick dudebro who probably makes the devil horns with her thumbs out.
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I'll bet she "just relates more to guys".
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So she's not girly enough? She also designs metal fashion and has provided outfits for many other metal bands, even a few big ones. Does that help?
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I think it all depends on where you wer at the time..melodic hard rock/heavy metall was still going strong here in Sweden. In the US, I can't think of any bands that topped the popular charts at the time but I don't think that anyone really cared at the time. And I don't think that anyone who really listened to bands like Jane's Addiction really cared if their music was placing higher than "Heart Shaped Box".

You are right that Cobain was no music genius..but he wasn't bad. I think it is a shame he died so young and that did effect his fame. But that always happens and he did have a different sound at the time. I don't care if little kids are walking around with Nirvana shirts.

The whole grunge scene to me just seemed like a bit of a phase. Just people who wanted to listen to something they deemed "alternative" from the mainstream. These bands that were declared "alternative" from the mainstream were opening up for mainstream bands (Such as Pearl Jam opening for U2 on their Zooropa tour) .And then it got big and all of a sudden, it wasn't as cool to listen to as before. But alot of good bands came out of it such as Bush and Live. And their music led to other such music.

The whole Britney, Backstreet Boys boyband phase was just an evolution of NKOTB and Tiffany. That kind of crap had been going on for a looong time and was / is always popular.

I wish the swing band fad of the 90s hadn't peetered out personally..that was a really fun thing. But then it always did continue, just not as mainstream. Who really cares right?
The "Hair Metal" era, roughly '83 to '92 or so, represents the last time Heavy Metal was truly relevant. It represents the last time rock was culturally 'dangerous' and also fun as a genre - when rockstars still roamed the Earth. I can see the negative thoughts people have about it - being too corporate and gimmicky. But It was a period when rock was good (for me anyway) and then by like 93 and on rock became depressing sounding with snarling growling singers who were depressed. What really separates Led Zeppelin, say, from "Hair Metal"?

Both had long hair. Both had over-the-top stage shows and self indulgent music videos. Both wore flashy costumes. Both sang about sex, drugs and rock n' roll and groupies.

Or for that matter, the 70s Stones. What separates them in any real way from Warrant? Basically "Hair Metal" became a term used by angry Gen X-ers to describe fun rock while they wallowed in self hating grunge nonsense.

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So she's not girly enough? She also designs metal fashion and has provided outfits for many other metal bands, even a few big ones. Does that help?
She sounds like her favorite band in high school was Pantera and now it's Five Finger Death Punch.
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I guess now we can just move this thread to "Music was better in the glorious day of yore". Sad.
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