What Sucks About This Genre: Hip-Hop Edition

Key · 07-19-2018, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

You know there’s plenty of Juggalos out there who have tats of the deepest ICP lyrics.

Nothing like getting "I'm Always Quick To Tell You When My Nuts Itch" tattoo'd in script on your arm. That's some deep ****.

**Janszoon** · 07-19-2018, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii

Nothing like getting "I'm Always Quick To Tell You When My Nuts Itch" tattoo'd in script on your arm. That's some deep ****.

Or “Fucking magnets, how do they work?”

Key · 07-19-2018, 10:32 AM

I know what I'm getting as my next tattoo now.

Trollheart · 07-19-2018, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy

I just detest ignorance like:

or:

or:

99.999% of people that make generalizations like this are racist in some way, shape, or form.

That's all I have to say on that subject, I'll be dropping it for good now

You apparently didn't realise the opening shot was a lighthearted jab at the kind of lyrics you find in hip-hop, but don't tell me that what I said isn't true. It certainly may not be true of ALL hip-hop, and I've not listened to enough to be able to make an informed judgement, but it's clearly the perception outside of the genre, just as "noodling", long solos, multi-part suites and songs about dragons and elves is the general mainstream perception of prog. That impression is not wrong, but there's so much more to prog than that. Similarly, there is, I'm sure, much more to hip-hop than what I wrote, but this is the image it projects. Not my fault it we pick up what they're putting out.

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Tupac
Lil Pump
It takes up a lot of my listening time

Nobody cares that TH and rubber soul are racist btw.

Hey! I'm not racist. I saw a black guy on the street once. Well, actually it was just someone with a really good tan...

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Originally Posted by Fluff

Disappointed to see it's turned into another ****ing race thread.

Agree with Janz anyway.

You expected something else?

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Originally Posted by Fluff

I voted 3 on the poll. When it's good it's good and when it's bad it's appalling, but even a lot of the albums I do like suffer from the things I mentioned so I think 3 is about fair.

I agree fully. I'll probably vote 2 or 3.

I certainly hate hip-hop a lot less now than I did a few years ago. Having listened to it, there's definitely some major league excellent music there, and I have the utmost respect for people who can rap. It's such an art, it leaves me breathless. But let's not pretend the bad stuff is confined to a few minor artists or a small percentage. Maybe it's only commercial, but the stuff I reviewed over the last year or two had a very large slice of that "kill yo bitches don't touch my hos" all through it. It didn't by any means ruin the music for me, but I probably would have enjoyed it just as much without it.

Oh, and Batty? Sorry to break the news to ya buddy, but you ain't black. I know you want to be, but you ain't, son.

YorkeDaddy · 07-19-2018, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

You apparently didn't realise the opening shot was a lighthearted jab at the kind of lyrics you find in hip-hop, but don't tell me that what I said isn't true. It certainly may not be true of ALL hip-hop, and I've not listened to enough to be able to make an informed judgement, but it's clearly the perception outside of the genre, just as "noodling", long solos, multi-part suites and songs about dragons and elves is the general mainstream perception of prog. That impression is not wrong, but there's so much more to prog than that. Similarly, there is, I'm sure, much more to hip-hop than what I wrote, but this is the image it projects. Not my fault it we pick up what they're putting out.

sigh

Trollheart · 07-19-2018, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy

sigh

Sigh yourself. Go on and tell me that this is NOT the image hip-hop PROJECTS. I'm talking about people who hear singles, songs on MTV or whatever, and kids who get into the music for those specific reasons, to be "hard, gangsta" etc. Do you know of any other music that promotes violence in such a direct way? Obviously there are great artists - I'm not saying there aren't. But ask anyone who isn't a fan what Black Metal is about, they'll say "devil worship". Ask the same question about emo, you'll be told whining teens. Ask about hip-hop and the answer will likely be guns, bitches and hoods. It's just how it is. You can sigh all you want, and call me a white old man (which I am) but that doesn't change the fact that this is the image hip-hop presents to the world at large.

**Frownland** · 07-19-2018, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Do you know of any other music that promotes violence in such a direct way?

Powerviolence.

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Originally Posted by rubber soul

Hey, Yorke. Are you maybe showing a little bias yourself? You're being pretty judgmental and you don't even know us.

lol that'll show em

Key · 07-19-2018, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Sigh yourself. Go on and tell me that this is NOT the image hip-hop PROJECTS. I'm talking about people who hear singles, songs on MTV or whatever, and kids who get into the music for those specific reasons, to be "hard, gangsta" etc. Do you know of any other music that promotes violence in such a direct way? Obviously there are great artists - I'm not saying there aren't. But ask anyone who isn't a fan what Black Metal is about, they'll say "devil worship". Ask the same question about emo, you'll be told whining teens. Ask about hip-hop and the answer will likely be guns, bitches and hoods. It's just how it is. You can sigh all you want, and call me a white old man (which I am) but that doesn't change the fact that this is the image hip-hop presents to the world at large.

This is such a typical parental outlook on hip hop.

YorkeDaddy · 07-19-2018, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Sigh yourself. Go on and tell me that this is NOT the image hip-hop PROJECTS. I'm talking about people who hear singles, songs on MTV or whatever, and kids who get into the music for those specific reasons, to be "hard, gangsta" etc. Do you know of any other music that promotes violence in such a direct way? Obviously there are great artists - I'm not saying there aren't. But ask anyone who isn't a fan what Black Metal is about, they'll say "devil worship". Ask the same question about emo, you'll be told whining teens. Ask about hip-hop and the answer will likely be guns, bitches and hoods. It's just how it is. You can sigh all you want, and call me a white old man (which I am) but that doesn't change the fact that this is the image hip-hop presents to the world at large.

That is not the image hip-hop projects, that is the image that you want it to project

~~Cuthbert~~ · 07-19-2018, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Ask about hip-hop and the answer will likely be guns, bitches and hoods. It's just how it is. You can sigh all you want, and call me a white old man (which I am) but that doesn't change the fact that this is the image hip-hop presents to the world at large.

There is a lot of truth to this I don't see the issue. Maybe not as much of a problem in the past ten years since it started moving away from that but it is definitely there.

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