Of Montreal (pop, albums, fan, tunes, reviews)

Rainard Jalen · 12-05-2008, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jgd85

but it is to incohesive.

ummmm, that's sort of the idea.

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but needs to be more patient in connecting the dots.

even though this album is about DISconnecting the dots... (it's so beau---tiful... our lunacy...)

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i think he did a lot of the writing for this album on tour... which may explain its lack of structure.

nope, again, what explains its lack of structure is that it was INTENDED to have a lack of structure. it's meant to be somewhat of a chaotic, catastrophic disaster.

THIS type of misunderstanding is why people are giving it dodgy reviews.

joyboyo53 · 12-08-2008, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainard Jalen

ummmm, that's sort of the idea.

even though this album is about DISconnecting the dots... (it's so beau---tiful... our lunacy...)

nope, again, what explains its lack of structure is that it was INTENDED to have a lack of structure. it's meant to be somewhat of a chaotic, catastrophic disaster.

THIS type of misunderstanding is why people are giving it dodgy reviews.

i understand that he has explained in recent interviews and radio shows he played, that he meant for this album to be a 'chatoic, catastrophic disaster'; there is a difference in organized chaos and incohesiveness.... it leans more towards incohesiveness in this album. saying the idea is to be incohesive is like saying you want your cereal soggy.

Piss Me Off · 12-08-2008, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainard Jalen

even though this album is about DISconnecting the dots... (it's so beau---tiful... our lunacy...)

Good song, that...

Rainard Jalen · 12-09-2008, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by jgd85

i understand that he has explained in recent interviews and radio shows he played, that he meant for this album to be a 'chatoic, catastrophic disaster'; there is a difference in organized chaos and incohesiveness.... it leans more towards incohesiveness in this album. saying the idea is to be incohesive is like saying you want your cereal soggy.

Right... annnnd?

It is not supposed to be organized at all. I don't know how it is that I can convey that to you strongly enough so that you'll actually believe it, but better believe it buddy, it's the case. There is no attempt at some sort of artistic 'organized chaos' here. It is plainly just an all-over-the-place big splotch of a jigsaw puzzle. It's not even supposed to be in order or to go together. Yes dude, it IS actually incohesive by intent. It's breaking any conventions of organization, even what you call 'organized chaos'. It's a complete free reign. You might not LIKE that, but please, do NOT speak about it as if it was anything other than Kevin Barnes' strict intent, because such a proposition is beyond ridiculous, almost as much as it is untrue.

jedthehuminoid · 12-10-2008, 07:21 PM

Yay for the best American band of our generation! Also lol @ the *** parade being censored in the OP.

Skeletal Lamping is by far my forerunner for album of the year, and one of the most exciting rock albums I've heard in a long time.

The transition between Aldhils and Skeletal Lamping in the band's sound is, in my opinion, one of the most impressive changes in artistic identity I've seen. They are just light years away from eachother in sound and in a way, content. Sure, it resulted in three albums that seemed rather...tame and safe (aldhils, satanic, sunlandic), but those albums were all important in order for Kevin to finally break free into this weird raunchy electronic guitar sex jam music during the second half of Hissing.

I always admired the earlier Of Montreal records (*** Parade is also my favorite) for their use of overly cute childlike subject matter as a mask for sad themes of every day life and love.

And I realized somewhere in the middle of Skeletal Lamping, that Kevin is actually kind of doing that now, starting with Hissing Fauna, only now it's using over the top sexuality to that same effect.

P.s. whoever that band that was opening for them this year in San Francisco was completely terrible. Really, really, terrible.

edit: actually, lol @ me for not realizing that *** parade auto censors

Pornographie Nouveau · 02-23-2009, 02:20 PM

Best 'indie' band by about 7609789 miles if you ask me.

I have everything from Satanic Panic onwards, all of which I LOVE. I'll probably get The *** Parade today or tomorrow.

mannny · 02-23-2009, 08:07 PM

I've heard so many good things about this band but never gave them a real listen. What album is the best starting point?

dac · 02-23-2009, 08:40 PM

They started me off with Satanic Panic and Hissing Fauna, so I'd say those two.

joyboyo53 · 03-03-2009, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainard Jalen

Right... annnnd?

It is not supposed to be organized at all. I don't know how it is that I can convey that to you strongly enough so that you'll actually believe it, but better believe it buddy, it's the case. There is no attempt at some sort of artistic 'organized chaos' here. It is plainly just an all-over-the-place big splotch of a jigsaw puzzle. It's not even supposed to be in order or to go together. Yes dude, it IS actually incohesive by intent. It's breaking any conventions of organization, even what you call 'organized chaos'. It's a complete free reign. You might not LIKE that, but please, do NOT speak about it as if it was anything other than Kevin Barnes' strict intent, because such a proposition is beyond ridiculous, almost as much as it is untrue.

dude we get it, you think the album is terrific. i really enjoy it too, but your looking at it through the eyes of a fan and not looking at the album ojectively. you know kevin is a talented musician with a lot of ideas, but he ultimately records low fi catchy pop tunes that he records rather quickly. he may have "meant" for it to be recorded as such, but if so it was done in such a way that it took away, and not added to the album. now i am not one to say that reviews are definative, but when allmusic gives it a 2.5/5 and pitchfork gives it a 5.9/10 it obviously wasnt his best work. both reviews cited the exact thing i speak of. its not like im making this **** up. i am a huge OM fan, i own every album and have listened to them far too many times.... but please understand that kevin barnes is no beethoven, and he doesnt **** rainbows.

Pornographie Nouveau · 03-03-2009, 07:31 AM

itt: opinions.
I like Skeletal Lamping a lot and I don't need Allmusic or Pitchfork to tell me that I shouldn't.

Oh, yeah, seeing them for the first time in July.

12-10-2008, 07:21 PM	#95 (permalink)
jedthehuminoid Groupie Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 3	Yay for the best American band of our generation! Also lol @ the * parade being censored in the OP. Skeletal Lamping is by far my forerunner for album of the year, and one of the most exciting rock albums I've heard in a long time. The transition between Aldhils and Skeletal Lamping in the band's sound is, in my opinion, one of the most impressive changes in artistic identity I've seen. They are just light years away from eachother in sound and in a way, content. Sure, it resulted in three albums that seemed rather...tame and safe (aldhils, satanic, sunlandic), but those albums were all important in order for Kevin to finally break free into this weird raunchy electronic guitar sex jam music during the second half of Hissing. I always admired the earlier Of Montreal records (* Parade is also my favorite) for their use of overly cute childlike subject matter as a mask for sad themes of every day life and love. And I realized somewhere in the middle of Skeletal Lamping, that Kevin is actually kind of doing that now, starting with Hissing Fauna, only now it's using over the top sexuality to that same effect. P.s. whoever that band that was opening for them this year in San Francisco was completely terrible. Really, really, terrible. edit: actually, lol @ me for not realizing that *** parade auto censors Last edited by jedthehuminoid; 12-10-2008 at 07:23 PM. Reason: I pwned myself in my second line.

02-23-2009, 08:07 PM	#97 (permalink)
mannny **** Steve Harvey Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: MASS Posts: 423	I've heard so many good things about this band but never gave them a real listen. What album is the best starting point? __________________

02-23-2009, 08:40 PM	#98 (permalink)
dac MB's Biggest Fanboy Join Date: May 2008 Location: Cloud Cuckoo Land Posts: 2,852	They started me off with Satanic Panic and Hissing Fauna, so I'd say those two. __________________

02-23-2009, 02:20 PM	#96 (permalink)
Pornographie Nouveau Hip Priest Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: UK Posts: 302	Best 'indie' band by about 7609789 miles if you ask me. I have everything from Satanic Panic onwards, all of which I LOVE. I'll probably get The *** Parade today or tomorrow.

03-03-2009, 07:31 AM	#100 (permalink)
Pornographie Nouveau Hip Priest Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: UK Posts: 302	itt: opinions. I like Skeletal Lamping a lot and I don't need Allmusic or Pitchfork to tell me that I shouldn't. Oh, yeah, seeing them for the first time in July.