CAPTAIN CAVEMAN

could you **** off, please? I haven't commented on this argument because I am neither here nor there on it, I don't mind the smell of it that much, and it's your choice. As long as you aren't smoking around infants or anything, whatever.

But come on, cut the bull**** with your whole pollution argument. Are you honestly telling us that we go outside and smell pollution? I sure as hell don't. And our society depends on factories, and cars - not cigarettes. You can ban a useless, poor habit, you can't ban transportation.

weleasewoger72

You don't smell pollution because you live in B.C. One of the cleanest places I have ever been to.
Try London on a hot day - you can smell it then.

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Wayfarer

Are you telling me you go outside and all you can smell is cigarettes? Maybe you should cut the bullshit. I used to live in downtown Toronto and even then, I could step outside and not smell fuck all.

You're missing the point. My point is that people need to stop acting as if cigarette smokers are some fucking abominable demons sent from hell atop black stallions to befoul everyone's poor, innocent lungs against their will. Everyone contributes to and is affected by air pollution, everyone consumes carcinogenic food products, everyone is exposed to radon gas and UV rays, and so on. Would be nice if people stopped pointing fingers and finally came to realize that we're all just as bad as each other, and we're all at risk of developing god knows what health problems. Shit happens. Why's there always have to be a scapegoat? Oh, crime rates are going up, must be the niggers. Oh, cancer killed more people this year than last year, must be the smokers. Fuck off, like.

CAPTAIN CAVEMAN

No, I am not saying that I smell cigarettes when I go outside. I agree that smokers shouldn't be demonized the way the sometimes are, I'm just trying to make sense of your persistant use of pollution as an arguement. If you're saying that air pollution is a bigger cause of lung cancer than second hand smoke (sorry, obviously I did not think of this beforehand), I would be inclined to agree, although I would want to see some sort of research on that, personally.

Inuzuka Skysword

Unfortunately for some of us we aren't able to do that because of health conditions. I am not against smoking, or any type of drug. I just feel that they aren't needed. I mean a lot of positive things have happened because of drugs, but I believe that with enough control over my mind I will be able to put myself in the state that people reach through doing drugs. In fact I have heard people who do drugs describe how their brain was changed after they did them, and I find similarities between them and what happened to me after I started doing things to open my mind such as meditation, and a lot of self-reflection.

You could argue for me not to go to the concert, and I wouldn't really know how I would answer that.

And a quote from Bill Hicks for no reason:

"Non-smokers die, everyday."

TheBig3

i don't know what the hell you're all bitching about, but theres been a smoking ban here for what i think has been a couple years now. I wouldn't know, Im not a smoker, but who cares. You've opted to kill yourself, get out in the snow and get it over with already.

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Illinois passed a smoking ban that goes in effect on January 1st, 2008.



they're going to close down the dennys,
because no one will go there anymore.

Wayfarer

Everyone's "opted to kill themselves" in one way or another.

That wouldn't be fair to you either though. We just need to come up with some more creative solutions than outright banning people from doing things.

dirt mcgirt

i smoke on tha mic like smokin joe frasier
the hell raisier
raisin hell with tha flava

Dr_Rez

haha, your posts suck

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