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TheCunningStunt 07-03-2010 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mojopinuk (Post 894154)
I know people who have definitely abused the system when it comes to getting imaginary depression-related illnesses diagnosed by the doctor. I've considered going to a doctor in the past for depression and i know this makes no sense but these people have put me off doing it. It makes no sense because for those who are genuinely depressed, they can get help. I've never been 100% sure that ive been depressed but when it came to picking up the phone and making an appointment i just figured that if someone could con a doctor into diagnosing them as being depressed when there was nothing wrong with them then do i really want to go to a doctor, have them tell me im depressed and not really know whether i should believe them or not?

I'm glad a fellow Brit has noticed a hole in the system, I wasn't sure if it was me having a lack of information on the subject. But when Lateralus said how intense a process it was, I couldn't believe it. I guess it's just our country that's a bit of a joke. And I can see your apprehension towards it, it's a tired and pointless exercise if someone can get diagnosed with it just because they fancy a week or two off. If someone really needs help, then I don't know how they'd go about getting it. Other than the doctor proscribing time off and meds. I know of someone on meds, my sister's friend. She's EXTREMELY happy every time I've seen her - massive smile on her face. But apparently she's depressed.. I imagine there to be a big come down effect, which wouldn't help at all.


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Originally Posted by Lateralus (Post 894155)
That's why if you seriously think you need help for a mental or emotional disorder, you need to go to a mental health professional, not a general practitioner. There are mental health doctors everywhere. If you are serious about getting help, you should really try to get the courage to go to a mental health professional, GPs don't do shit. And like discussed, they just diagnose everyone who comes in wanting a sick note - they don't really know a whole lot about mental illness. That's what I've found anyway.

I wouldn't know of any mental heath professional's around here, I've never heard of any around here. Unless you mean shrinks. If you're saying "you" in a general sense then I totally agree, but if you're referring to me I don't need to waste their time, I'm just moody and pissed off with aspects of life, some of which can be fixed.. some that can't. It's really interesting how people over here with depression would deal with it, I guess seeing a psychiatrist would be the only real option.

Astronomer 07-03-2010 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt (Post 894156)
I wouldn't know of any mental heath professional's around here, I've never heard of any around here. Unless you mean shrinks. If you're saying "you" in a general sense then I totally agree, but if you're referring to me I don't need to waste their time, I'm just moody and pissed off with aspects of life, some of which can be fixed.. some that can't. It's really interesting how people over here with depression would deal with it, I guess seeing a psychiatrist would be the only real option.

Yeah, I meant 'you' in a general sense, not you specifically :) A mental health professional is a medical doctor who has chosen to specialise in mental health. Different from a shrink or a psychiatrist, they are just a general medical doctor but they have acquired extensive knowledge on mental illness for whatever reason and have a lot of patients who are mental illness sufferers. I didn't know they existed either, until my parents took me to a GP for the issue when I was about 16/17 and the GP referred me to a mental health professional in the area. That's probably the best way to go about finding them.

boo boo 07-03-2010 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Alfred
2. How do you rate your technical abillity at the instruments you play?
Screw technical ability, IT'S ABOUT THE PASSION.

This is something only really sh*tty musicians say.

Mojo 07-03-2010 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt (Post 894156)
I'm glad a fellow Brit has noticed a hole in the system, I wasn't sure if it was me having a lack of information on the subject. But when Lateralus said how intense a process it was, I couldn't believe it. I guess it's just our country that's a bit of a joke. And I can see your apprehension towards it, it's a tired and pointless exercise if someone can get diagnosed with it just because they fancy a week or two off. If someone really needs help, then I don't know how they'd go about getting it. Other than the doctor proscribing time off and meds. I know of someone on meds, my sister's friend. She's EXTREMELY happy every time I've seen her - massive smile on her face. But apparently she's depressed.. I imagine there to be a big come down effect, which wouldn't help at all.

It probably does have a lot to do with getting diagnosed from a GP instead of going down a more accurate and helpful route. I hadnt thought of that but now Lateralus has pointed that out, it makes perfect sense. It really does annoy me how easy it seems to be to get a doctor to go along with these things when they arent true. A friend of mine hadf and still has a lot of genuine emotional and psychological problems. Hes depressed, he has delusions, he either see's or hears things that arent there, he relies too heavily on alcohol or drugs to attempt to deal with things when they get bad and so often does not make very wise decisions and makes things worse for himself in the long run. Basically he developed drug and alcohol problems too. Now even though he has genuine issues, i used to work with the guy and he once got into a really bad state, got drunk and then called in sick the next morning. He told them outright that he wasnt coming in because he was drunk and they said to him "Dont worry about it, work on getting yourself better" and the best part of all "take a week off!"

Take a week off? Because hes pissed? They knew of his alcohol problems. He had told them but dont OFFER him a week off! Just imagine, if its easy to get a GP to sign off on the belief that you have a mental illness or are depressed when you arent then i wonder how easy it would be for someone to take a look at my friend, the treatment his employer is giving him and fake the very same issues in the presence of a GP so they could get the same benefits?

TheCunningStunt 07-03-2010 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mojopinuk (Post 894160)
It probably does have a lot to do with getting diagnosed from a GP instead of going down a more accurate and helpful route. I hadnt thought of that but now Lateralus has pointed that out, it makes perfect sense. It really does annoy me how easy it seems to be to get a doctor to go along with these things when they arent true. A friend of mine hadf and still has a lot of genuine emotional and psychological problems. Hes depressed, he has delusions, he either see's or hears things that arent there, he relies too heavily on alcohol or drugs to attempt to deal with things when they get bad and so often does not make very wise decisions and makes things worse for himself in the long run. Basically he developed drug and alcohol problems too. Now even though he has genuine issues, i used to work with the guy and he once got into a really bad state, got drunk and then called in sick the next morning. He told them outright that he wasnt coming in because he was drunk and they said to him "Dont worry about it, work on getting yourself better" and the best part of all "take a week off!"

Take a week off? Because hes pissed? They knew of his alcohol problems. He had told them but dont OFFER him a week off! Just imagine, if its easy to get a GP to sign off on the belief that you have a mental illness or are depressed when you arent then i wonder how easy it would be for someone to take a look at my friend, the treatment his employer is giving him and fake the very same issues in the presence of a GP so they could get the same benefits?

That's terrible really, it just shows how fickle a condition it really is. There's such a fine line, a lot of people that "have depression" are probably hypochondriacs that are just a bit sad and dramatise things to validate themselves and wallow in self pity. But when someone has REAL problems and gets the same benefits as someone who's faking/exaggerating then I'm lost. We don't seem to take it seriously here. If other countries, like Australia can take it seriously and really enforce a structure on how to detect and treat then why can't we? Ridiculous really. I don't think it's a condition that's taken as seriously as it should here.

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Originally Posted by Lateralus (Post 894158)
Yeah, I meant 'you' in a general sense, not you specifically :) A mental health professional is a medical doctor who has chosen to specialise in mental health. Different from a shrink or a psychiatrist, they are just a general medical doctor but they have acquired extensive knowledge on mental illness for whatever reason and have a lot of patients who are mental illness sufferers. I didn't know they existed either, until my parents took me to a GP for the issue when I was about 16/17 and the GP referred me to a mental health professional in the area. That's probably the best way to go about finding them.

I've never really heard of a mental health professional, I don't know of any around here anyway. I just know shrinks, GPs and hospitals.. maybe that's through not looking any further and not needing to look any further. They sound a lot better than clowns that don't have the foggiest idea about the condition.

Freebase Dali 07-03-2010 11:01 PM

Back on track...

1. What is your weirdest sexual fetish if any?
I dunno.... a great ass in tight jeans is sexier to me than a naked ass with no jeans. Jeans definitely play a huge role. Not really a fetish, but more of a mental foreplay thing. I idolize a hot ass clad in tight jeans. It's practically a dating prerequisite for me.
That's all probably more of a preference than a fetish... but it's all I got beyond favorite sexual positions and all that.
Oh.. and I don't give a shit about boob size. (except I'm turned off by huge boobs)

2. How do you rate your technical ability at the instruments you play?
Average, except drums... Drums are easily my "above average" area.

3. Do you have any kind of mental disorder?
Probably a mild social anxiety, but I've never confirmed.

4. What is your favorite art movement?

Probably Surrealism. Salvador Dali was my first introduction into it and I fell in love. Apart from Surrealism, I really dig urban art/graffiti.

5. If you were a movie director what would your style be like?

I never really thought about it, but I'd want to be as visceral and raw as possible.

6. What is your guiltiest pleasure in TV viewing?
I watched an entire season of America's Next Top Model in 2008. (Have mercy, I was in the military in Germany and AFN was only 4 channels or so.)

boo boo 07-03-2010 11:52 PM

My tastes are pretty damn liberal when it comes to boob size it just depends on preportions.

For thin/normal sized women I like any boob size that isn't bigger than E, when beyond that it really looks abnormal.

Unless you're a big girl and I do confess to liking some plus sized girls, only those big girls could look good with an F, G, H or J, whenever I see a thin woman with them it's horrifying. There's flat out no excuse to have boobs that big unless you're chubby. It's all about preportion baby.

Astronomer 07-04-2010 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 894206)
My tastes are pretty damn liberal when it comes to boob size it just depends on preportions.

For thin/normal sized women I like any boob size that isn't bigger than E, when beyond that it really looks abnormal.

Unless you're a big girl and I do confess to liking some plus sized girls, only those big girls could look good with an F, G, H or J, whenever I see a thin woman with them it's horrifying. There's flat out no excuse to have boobs that big unless you're chubby. It's all about preportion baby.

Are bra cup sizes universal? Because E is pretty big... but we might have different sizing here.

Freebase Dali 07-04-2010 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Lateralus (Post 894211)
Are bra cup sizes universal? Because E is pretty big... but we might have different sizing here.

E is huge in the U.S.
D is like.. enormously supple.
C is right there in the middle.
B is on the low end of that.
A is pre-pubescent.

But then there are the numbers attached to them.

Personally, I've never even heard of anything above an E. But apparently it exists.

Astronomer 07-04-2010 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali (Post 894212)
E is huge in the U.S.
D is like.. enormously supple.
C is right there in the middle.
B and A are pre-pubescent.

But then there are the numbers attached to them.

Personally, I've never even heard of anything above an E. But apparently it exists.

Haha okay, sounds the same as here :D

Yes. It does exist. When I was a teenager I used to work at a department store in the lingerie section and selling nanna bras to giant old ladies was a slightly unpleasant experience.

TheCunningStunt 07-04-2010 12:09 AM

34C - just right. I.E Scarlett Johansson, although I think US 34C is a tad bigger than UK 34C.

Freebase Dali 07-04-2010 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Lateralus (Post 894213)
Haha okay, sounds the same as here :D

Yes. It does exist. When I was a teenager I used to work at a department store in the lingerie section and selling nanna bras to giant old ladies was a slightly unpleasant experience.

Haha.. so there's a 'sag' factor involved I assume?

boo boo 07-04-2010 12:26 AM

Not always, it's not something exclusive to old people, just larger women. Not necessarly morbidly obese.

J is the highest ranking that most bra stores are likely to have but there is bigger than that when regarding the monster jabba chicks.

Freebase Dali 07-04-2010 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 894230)
Not always, it's not something exclusive to old people, just larger women. Not necessarly morbidly obese.

J is the highest ranking that most bra stores are likely to have but there is bigger than that when regarding the monster jabba chicks.

I'm amazed at your bra-knowledge.
:D

boo boo 07-04-2010 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali (Post 894212)
E is huge in the U.S.
D is like.. enormously supple.
C is right there in the middle.
B is on the low end of that.
A is pre-pubescent.

But then there are the numbers attached to them.

Personally, I've never even heard of anything above an E. But apparently it exists.

That is just ridiculous, c'mon you can't be serious. A cups are just fine.

Maybe you're confusing them with AA cups.

Arya Stark 07-04-2010 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali (Post 894233)
I'm amazed at your bra-knowledge.
:D

Not impressed by your non-big-boob-liking. D:
Some people can't help itttt.

Freebase Dali 07-04-2010 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 894235)
That is just ridiculous, c'mon you can't be serious. A cups are just fine.

Maybe you're confusing them with AA cups.

I quite possibly am.
Which cup size is the one that isn't C?

TheCunningStunt 07-04-2010 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by AwwSugar (Post 894236)
Not impressed by your non-big-boob-liking. D:
Some people can't help itttt.

Big boobs are fine, as long as you don't look at someone and think "hmm, if they take their bra off their tits could look like a pair of bollocks."

The sag factor :( ridiculously big boobs = a turn off, despite it being natural and something people can't help.

boo boo 07-04-2010 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali (Post 894238)
I quite possibly am.
Which cup size is the one that isn't C?

I have never seen a prepubescent girl with A or B cup breasts, if that was common the age of consent would be a lot lower.

Don't be hating on petite boobs man.

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Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt (Post 894242)
Big boobs are fine, as long as you don't look at someone and think "hmm, if they take their bra off their tits could look like a pair of bollocks."

The sag factor :( ridiculously big boobs = a turn off, despite it being natural and something people can't help.

Well if you're an ass man wouldn't that be a benefit?

Again some big girls can look just fine with their big titties and I admit I can understand the appeal of boobs that you can literally bury your head into. If they're really saggy and veiny than yeah it's f*cking gross but big breasted women of the plus sized variety is another not so guilty pleasure of mine.

Freebase Dali 07-04-2010 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 894246)
I have never seen a prepupisent girl with A or B cup breasts, if that was common the age of consent would be a lot lower.

Don't be hating on petite boobs man.

Hehe.. I don't mind small breasts. I prefer them to large breasts.
I just needed a word that generally contrasted.

I just find C cups to be the general comfort zone for me.

boo boo 07-04-2010 12:47 AM

Oh and sorry for so badly misspelling prepubescent.

FETCHER. 07-04-2010 09:55 AM

I can only answer 4 literally. :(:(:(

Sansa Stark 07-04-2010 12:48 PM

1. What is your weirdest sexual fetish if any?
I don't think they're very weird....public sex, femdom, being submissive, bondage, *** fetishes aren't really weird at all.


2. How do you rate your technical abillity at the instruments you play?

Now that I can use my left hand properly again I can do pretty well on them

3. Do you have any kind of mental disorder?
I'm bipolar, type 1


4. What is your favorite art movement?

No idea


5. If you were a movie director what would your style be like?

porn.

6. What is your guiltiest pleasure in TV viewing?
The only tv show I watch is Skins, and we dont get it on any of our networks, I download it.

FETCHER. 07-04-2010 12:55 PM

omg i love you. You like skins.

Sansa Stark 07-04-2010 12:56 PM

<3

Haven't started Season 3 yet though

James 07-04-2010 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Burning Down (Post 894102)
1. What is your weirdest sexual fetish if any?
Keeping socks on. Doesn't always happen though.

.

:O
I love you.

jackhammer 07-04-2010 03:47 PM

1. What is your weirdest sexual fetish if any?
Far too many to mention and I would like to keep what little respect I have on these boards intact!

2. How do you rate your technical abillity at the instruments you play?
Drums: below average. Voice: powerful but completely untutored. Nothing else.

3. Do you have any kind of mental disorder?
Apart from the usual shyness, I wouldn't say so. Some docs may class me as alcohol dependent I guess.

4. What is your favorite art movement?
Fantasy art. Boris Vajello etc.

5. If you were a movie director what would your style be like?
Music would play a major part as I always put images to the music I listen to with a Ken Loach approach to realism. No sentimentality whatsoever. I hate films that use this with a passion.

6. What is your guiltiest pleasure in TV viewing?
I don't watch a huge amount of TV but Robin Of Sherwood could be classed as one. I just got the second series on ebay!

gunnels 07-04-2010 04:08 PM

1. What is your weirdest sexual fetish if any?
I'm pretty sure this board doesn't want to hear about the sexual endeavors of a 16-year-old male.
2. How do you rate your technical abillity at the instruments you play?
Compared to some others in my piano class I'd say I'm pretty mediocre. :laughing:
3. Do you have any kind of mental disorder?
Nope.
4. What is your favorite art movement?
Impressionism I suppose.
5. If you were a movie director what would your style be like?
-
6. What is your guiltiest pleasure in TV viewing?
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._7939164_n.jpg

boo boo 07-04-2010 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 894468)
:O
I love you.

Another fetish I don't get, bare feet ftw.

glastonelle 07-04-2010 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Paloma (Post 894438)
<3

Haven't started Season 3 yet though

Season 3 alright, but Id give season 4 a miss. It was slit-your-wrists depressing :(

TheCunningStunt 07-04-2010 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Paloma (Post 894438)
<3

Haven't started Season 3 yet though

Don't bother. Season 1 and 2 were brilliant, then they changed the cast and it went to shit, let me know what you think of season 3 when you've finished it, I thought it was utter bollocks.

glastonelle 07-04-2010 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt (Post 894681)
Don't bother. Season 1 and 2 were brilliant, then they changed the cast and it went to shit, let me know what you think of season 3 when you've finished it, I thought it was utter bollocks.

Good to see we agree on something, Mr. Stunt :D

Astronomer 07-04-2010 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt (Post 894681)
Don't bother. Season 1 and 2 were brilliant, then they changed the cast and it went to shit, let me know what you think of season 3 when you've finished it, I thought it was utter bollocks.

I thought season 3 was ****, but I enjoyed season 4. Apart from the ****ed up ending, it was a good season... lots of interesting storylines.

TheCunningStunt 07-04-2010 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Lateralus (Post 894762)
I thought season 3 was ****, but I enjoyed season 4. Apart from the ****ed up ending, it was a good season... lots of interesting storylines.

I tried to watch series 4, the first episode was just gash. So I gave up hope, they're changing the cast again for a series 5 and 6. They should give up and f*ck off now.

boo boo 07-05-2010 04:39 AM

I have never even heard of this show. Is it a UK thing?

FETCHER. 07-05-2010 06:16 AM

Yeah its a UK show. Its worth a watch Boo Boo. :)

Plus I thought the first two were best but the second two were mediocre but id watch them again :)

Mojo 07-05-2010 07:12 AM

I should watch the first two series of that show as my opinion of Skins could not be any worse. I genuinely would go as far as to say it was one of the worst TV shows I have ever sat through. But any episodes of it i have seen are from after series 2.

TheCunningStunt 07-05-2010 11:45 AM

Watch series 1 and 2 online, they'll change your opinion of the show slightly, but after they offended my eyes and ears with 3 and 4.. I don't feel the same way about the show.

EDIT: Skins talk in another thread except MGMT... weird.

Burning Down 07-05-2010 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 894468)
:O
I love you.

:love:

glastonelle 07-05-2010 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mojopinuk (Post 894888)
I should watch the first two series of that show as my opinion of Skins could not be any worse. I genuinely would go as far as to say it was one of the worst TV shows I have ever sat through. But any episodes of it i have seen are from after series 2.

Thats probably because you watched the worse two seasons of the lot. 2nd generation is pitiful, but if you want good teen drama then season 1-2 is your ticket.


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