The Bitch Box

Justthefacts · 08-06-2015, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah

You said I could get a few things...^

The Batlord · 08-06-2015, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by fiddler

Speaking of people being arrested I got dispatched to a domestic violence call on post, guy going to slam his girlfriend into a washing machine. **** like that makes my blood boil.

I suppose no one can honestly say how they would react given certain circumstances in a relationship dynamic --at least without having experienced them -- but physical confrontations with someone you supposedly love (be it the predatory abuse of a single party, or equal participation, co-dependent violence) is a sign of a person/persons with terminally stunted maturity. Even with teens who engage in such behavior, I would be dubious that their nature would change to the point that they would "grow out of it".

I'm a man-child with anger issues myself, so I can't help but worry that under the right (or wrong) circumstances, that I would shame myself in such a way (not having been in any romantic relationships I really have little experience to say either way TBH). But I'd like to think that the idea of hitting a woman would be so repulsive to me that I just couldn't do it. I just don't understand how you get to the point of closing your fist and making contact with a loved one.

I've never done it to a non-romantic partner, and never had any desire to -- beyond of course the normal state of being pissed off at a friend acting like a douchebag -- so I'd like to think that it would never come to that, but it's still a terrifying thought. There are so few people that I've ever felt any real connection with, so it would feel like a betrayal, not just to that person, but to myself for sabotaging something which would be so rare and special to me.

**** that ****.

grindy · 08-06-2015, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

I suppose no one can honestly say how they would react given certain circumstances in a relationship dynamic --at least without having experienced them -- but physical confrontations with someone you supposedly love (be it the predatory abuse of a single party, or equal participation, co-dependent violence) is a sign of a person/persons with terminally stunted maturity. Even with teens who engage in such behavior, I would be dubious that their nature would change to the point that they would "grow out of it".

I'm a man-child with anger issues myself, so I can't help but worry that under the right (or wrong) circumstances, that I would shame myself in such a way (not having been in any romantic relationships I really have little experience to say either way TBH). But I'd like to think that the idea of hitting a woman would be so repulsive to me that I just couldn't do it. I just don't understand how you get to the point of closing your fist and making contact with a loved one.

I've never done it to a non-romantic partner, and never had any desire to -- beyond of course the normal state of being pissed off at a friend acting like a douchebag -- so I'd like to think that it would never come to that, but it's still a terrifying thought. There are so few people that I've ever felt any real connection with, so it would feel like a betrayal, not just to that person, but to myself for sabotaging something which would be so rare and special to me.

**** that ****.

Punching someone is ****ing hard in general.
Thank god I only had to do it twice, both times pretty much justified, but both times I couldn't bring myself to do it with full force. Just feels wrong and terrible.

Trollheart · 08-06-2015, 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Justthefacts

Bit late to the party aren't you? Drugs worn off yet?

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

I suppose no one can honestly say how they would react given certain circumstances in a relationship dynamic --at least without having experienced them -- but physical confrontations with someone you supposedly love (be it the predatory abuse of a single party, or equal participation, co-dependent violence) is a sign of a person/persons with terminally stunted maturity. Even with teens who engage in such behavior, I would be dubious that their nature would change to the point that they would "grow out of it".

I'm a man-child with anger issues myself, so I can't help but worry that under the right (or wrong) circumstances, that I would shame myself in such a way (not having been in any romantic relationships I really have little experience to say either way TBH). But I'd like to think that the idea of hitting a woman would be so repulsive to me that I just couldn't do it. I just don't understand how you get to the point of closing your fist and making contact with a loved one.

I've never done it to a non-romantic partner, and never had any desire to -- beyond of course the normal state of being pissed off at a friend acting like a douchebag -- so I'd like to think that it would never come to that, but it's still a terrifying thought. There are so few people that I've ever felt any real connection with, so it would feel like a betrayal, not just to that person, but to myself for sabotaging something which would be so rare and special to me.

**** that ****.

Not to mention that unless she's a huge woman (and even if she is) it's almsot certainly a case of a stronger person attacking a weaker. I know women can be tough when needed but generally, in a male/female confrontation I think they tend to avoid physical conflict, as they know they will usually come off worst. Honestly, to me it's like punching a child. How the **** can you have any self-respect for yourself, or respect for the person you purport to love, if you're prepared to physically harm them? Even if the reverse were true, and the woman went for you, most of us are strong enough to be able to restrain her without having to resort to like violence.

tl;dr: you hit a woman you're a **** and deserve to go to jail. End of.

fiddler · 08-06-2015, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

I suppose no one can honestly say how they would react given certain circumstances in a relationship dynamic --at least without having experienced them -- but physical confrontations with someone you supposedly love (be it the predatory abuse of a single party, or equal participation, co-dependent violence) is a sign of a person/persons with terminally stunted maturity. Even with teens who engage in such behavior, I would be dubious that their nature would change to the point that they would "grow out of it".

I'm a man-child with anger issues myself, so I can't help but worry that under the right (or wrong) circumstances, that I would shame myself in such a way (not having been in any romantic relationships I really have little experience to say either way TBH). But I'd like to think that the idea of hitting a woman would be so repulsive to me that I just couldn't do it. I just don't understand how you get to the point of closing your fist and making contact with a loved one.

I've never done it to a non-romantic partner, and never had any desire to -- beyond of course the normal state of being pissed off at a friend acting like a douchebag -- so I'd like to think that it would never come to that, but it's still a terrifying thought. There are so few people that I've ever felt any real connection with, so it would feel like a betrayal, not just to that person, but to myself for sabotaging something which would be so rare and special to me.

**** that ****.

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Bit late to the party aren't you? Drugs worn off yet?

Not to mention that unless she's a huge woman (and even if she is) it's almsot certainly a case of a stronger person attacking a weaker. I know women can be tough when needed but generally, in a male/female confrontation I think they tend to avoid physical conflict, as they know they will usually come off worst. Honestly, to me it's like punching a child. How the **** can you have any self-respect for yourself, or respect for the person you purport to love, if you're prepared to physically harm them? Even if the reverse were true, and the woman went for you, most of us are strong enough to be able to restrain her without having to resort to like violence.

tl;dr: you hit a woman you're a **** and deserve to go to jail. End of.

Well from a legal stand point, it's even more complicated than that. Legally, unless she presses charges on him, we can only hold him for 12hrs because we don't have a cooperating witness. When we arrested him, she declined to press charges (she still has little less than hour from the time of this post). So from a legal stand point, we have exercised essentially police judgement. All that is is the legal ability to interfere in a situation where we don't have someone who is actually pressing charges. Without out this sort of loophole, we wouldn't have been able to arrest him last night because we didn't actually see the crime committed, nor did we have viable evidence that it had happened, at least, not at the house. Obviously once she got checked out by a medic it stood to say that she had two broken ribs and a neighbor saw the entire thing who called us.

As far as a stronger attacking a weaker, I'm not entirely sure this was the case, as she is the soldier in this situation, and he is a civilian. I realize that it doesn't sound like it should make a huge difference, but it does, as she has hand-to-hand combat training that would make her formidable opponent. My best guess as he didn't have any injuries and the medic said he was basically fine, and no substantial injuries, that he surprised her over and quickly over powered her. From the investigative stand point, that's what the evidence is telling us.

Him being a civilian makes the situation that more complicated. We, as the Army, can't court martial a civilian - which is the military's legal process of trail and punishment. However, we can transfer him over to the Sheriff's Department, and maintain partial jurisdiction over the case. We can bar him from coming back onto post and limiting his access to her via that way, but we have no control over the civilian World so an order of protection against him for her would fall under the civilian court's duties. But, we all know how that works.

EDIT: As a side note, if you've seen Plankton's picture in the picture gallery dude was about Plankton's build and such.

Chula Vista · 08-06-2015, 10:29 AM

In 35 years together I have never struck Linda. She's gotten me mad enough on a few occasions but that's what walls and doors are for. She's freaking belted me a few times through the years though in a complete drunken haze.

Plankton · 08-06-2015, 10:51 AM

Yeah, hitting a woman is pretty disgusting behavior. The only person I've ever maliciously attacked (aside from combat training in the Army and some martial arts when I was younger) was the perv that went after my daughter when she was 15 (he was 40+). He had also gone after a couple of my friends daughters over the years. I pretty much did it for the sake of those innocent girls. Got him pretty good too, but I felt really bad about it afterwards. He went to the police and I was arrested, but community service was my sentence, and I had a fairly good time since the officers in charge learned why I was there.

On the other end of the spectrum you have my Daughter's mother, who backed herself into a doorknob and told the police I had hit her in the back with a hammer. Off to jail I went. After that, I wizened up and would only be around her if I had witnesses, which came into play when she hit herself in the head with a brick and called the cops. The cops laughed and told her to get the **** off my property, as I was in the process of removing her from my home. Good times man, good times.

Violence sucks.

RoxyRollah · 08-06-2015, 11:00 AM

Now hold on....I CAN HIT A WOMAN. IM NOT SCURED.
Course you all want it to happen in a mud pit but ya know.

FRED HALE SR. · 08-06-2015, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah

Now hold on....I CAN HIT A WOMAN. IM NOT SCURED.
Course you all want it to happen in a mud pit but ya know.

More woman on woman fights should be done in showers.

RoxyRollah · 08-06-2015, 11:03 AM

.^I missed you.

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Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	In 35 years together I have never struck Linda. She's gotten me mad enough on a few occasions but that's what walls and doors are for. She's freaking belted me a few times through the years though in a complete drunken haze. __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.” Last edited by Chula Vista; 08-06-2015 at 11:09 AM.

08-06-2015, 10:51 AM	#20407 (permalink)
Plankton Just Keep Swimming... Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: See signature... Posts: 7,766	Yeah, hitting a woman is pretty disgusting behavior. The only person I've ever maliciously attacked (aside from combat training in the Army and some martial arts when I was younger) was the perv that went after my daughter when she was 15 (he was 40+). He had also gone after a couple of my friends daughters over the years. I pretty much did it for the sake of those innocent girls. Got him pretty good too, but I felt really bad about it afterwards. He went to the police and I was arrested, but community service was my sentence, and I had a fairly good time since the officers in charge learned why I was there. On the other end of the spectrum you have my Daughter's mother, who backed herself into a doorknob and told the police I had hit her in the back with a hammer. Off to jail I went. After that, I wizened up and would only be around her if I had witnesses, which came into play when she hit herself in the head with a brick and called the cops. The cops laughed and told her to get the **** off my property, as I was in the process of removing her from my home. Good times man, good times. Violence sucks. __________________ See location...