Frownland

Bluegrass is tight though

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The Batlord

Which is something I ****ing said. I'm not arguing for being poor. I'm arguing that not being poor is still empty, just in a different way. It's all empty unless you have a different approach than just "If I make more money everything will be better." Human beings evolved to live in scarcity, so when we don't have scarcity we're living in a way we weren't evolved to live. So should it be a surprise that having enough money isn't fulfilling all by itself?

All ****ing day I've been fantasizing about having a sailboat and sailing across the world and living a life of adventure because the thought of having enough money to live comfortably is ****ing empty unless I can do something challenging and exciting with it. And living a comfortable middle class life that is just paying bills, living in a house, and raising kids with enough money to do so is in no way challenging or exciting to my scarcity instincts so of course it is going to be an empty existence. So I might as well buy a sailboat and have to deal with the challenge of sailing.

Modern middle class society is ****ing soulless and pointless.

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jwb

I'm arguing that not being poor > being poor

The Batlord

Yeah but it also lays bare all the problems with being human that you can't afford to think about when you're worrying about your next paycheck. Because, again, humans evolved to live in scarcity, and once that scarcity is gone all the flaws in the evolution of the human brain come to the fore.

I'm not saying being poor is better. I'm saying that if you stop being poor then you better come up with another alternative to living because human society has largely failed to do so.

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jwb

there goes elph's theorem on hipsters not repping bluegrass.

Frownland

I'm such a triple reverse hipster that my favourite bluegrass album is the soundtrack to a popular film.

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The Batlord

That **** is definitely tight though.

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jwb

I think scarcity is a rather universal mindset. Middle class people tend to live beyond their means and thus strive earn more. Rich people tend to strive to be richer.

But the lower you go on the economic ladder the more life and death this game starts to feel.

As for existential angst... I experienced it even being poor. That's more of a matter how much you read etc than money. Most poor people are just stupid.

jwb

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You poseur

jwb

Well there is happy poor people and miserable poor people just like any group. Some people are just better adjusted than others.

But there's definitely unhappiness caused by lack of money. And a lot of it. Where as unhappiness caused by lack of poverty... Not so much.