Music Banter

Go Back   Music Banter > Community Center > The Lounge
Register Blogging Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
Welcome to Music Banter Forum! Make sure to register - it's free and very quick! You have to register before you can post and participate in our discussions with over 70,000 other registered members. After you create your free account, you will be able to customize many options, you will have the full access to over 1,100,000 posts.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-13-2019, 08:23 PM   #281 (permalink)
Born To Be Mild
 
Lisnaholic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: He lives on Love Street
Posts: 3,184
Default

Meanwhile in India:-

Quote:
There is no national language in India. The Constitution of India designates 22 official languages for the Government of India, and Hindi (written in the Devanagari script) as well as English as the two official languages of the Union.....*continues in brain-numbing detail*
__________________
Did you ever hear of having more than you wanted? So that you couldn’t want anything else and then started looking for something else to want? It seems like we’re always searching for something to satisfy us, and never finding it. - Susan Eloise Hinton, 1967
Lisnaholic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2019, 08:35 PM   #282 (permalink)
All day jazz and biscuits
 
The Batlord's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Beating GNR at DDR and keying Axl's new car
Posts: 40,301
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by OccultHawk View Post
I know we’re on the same page so I’m not trying to school you but I still want to point out that yes if you were raised white middle class or higher that’s all you ever heard so of course. But for black kids from the projects they have to learn a new dialect from scratch. Ultimately the only course of action is to accomadate varying dialects without discrimination because the other two choices are linuisticide or perpetual headstarts for whitey.
Yeah of course, but what are telling young black kids? The only way for anything intelligent to happen is to tell young black kids something to make them care. Oh hey that's not happening cause they're a part of a cultural thing that doesn't give a flying **** about middle class white grammar rules.

I mean what is the solution? There is no solution. They don't care, the middle class who are supposed to be "uplifting" them don't care. It's just groups of people passing in the night with supposed interests intersecting who are told they are in the same boat but don't really feel that boat in any meaningful way.
__________________
BRING ME THE HORIZON >>>> CHARLES MINGUS
i
The Batlord is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2019, 09:08 PM   #283 (permalink)
one-balled nipple jockey
 
OccultHawk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Dirty Souf Biatch
Posts: 14,747
Default

It’s not my job anymore, thankfully. The black kids already had language for it: “talk white” and “write white”. Some of the black kids wanted higher common core scores to get out of remedial double block reading. Some of them had very gentle dispositions that made the more raucous “ghetto” and “bump” classes less to their liking. I just said if you want to get higher tests scores and take advanced classes you have to “write white” on the standardized testing. If you want I can help you with that. If they were like “ok” I corrected their written assignments to match their language with the oppressive power structure. If they were ambivalent about it I let them write however they wrote.
__________________

¡¡¡brigada juvenil anarquista!!!
FLARLY WE RIDE
OccultHawk is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2019, 09:28 PM   #284 (permalink)
Mord
 
Zhanteimi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Tokyo
Posts: 4,856
Default

The problem is more basic than that: school itself.
__________________
Zhanteimi

LetsTalkMusic
Zhanteimi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2019, 09:34 PM   #285 (permalink)
Master Of Muzak
 
Anteater's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Somewhere swarthy
Posts: 4,607
Default

Eh, I'm pretty sure learning to "speak" and "write" white is better than this.

BBC.com - Pidgin
__________________
My Top 30 Albums of 2018
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frownland
You can't blame the Jews for everything...just most things.
Quote:
Originally Posted by OccultHawk
Trump might be the best thing since free jazz.
Anteater is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2019, 09:37 PM   #286 (permalink)
Reading PDFs
 
elphenor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 11,372
Default

seems more a class problem in this case

school sucks in that it devolves into a series of dumb hoops to jump through to get a shot at what humans ought to be entitled to from the start anyway
__________________
Just another marketing ploy

Quote:
I love tube disasters
I wanna marry a tube disaster
I want another one just like the last one
because I live for tube disasters
elphenor is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2019, 09:38 PM   #287 (permalink)
Mord
 
Zhanteimi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Tokyo
Posts: 4,856
Default

Whenever I see the word "pidgin", I think of Lee from East of Eden. What a wonderful character!
__________________
Zhanteimi

LetsTalkMusic
Zhanteimi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2019, 10:31 PM   #288 (permalink)
Born To Be Mild
 
Lisnaholic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: He lives on Love Street
Posts: 3,184
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by elphenor View Post
school sucks in that it devolves into a series of dumb hoops to jump through to get a shot at what humans ought to be entitled to from the start anyway
^ That sounds like a very prejudiced description. Why hoops? Why dumb? and what are humans entitled to "from the start"?

If I go to a doctor, I want him to have proved himself competent as he progresses through a series of educational stages, each one designed to build on the previous in such a way that the student can acquire a grasp of an extremely complex body of knowledge. That's achieved by schooling, not by humans being "entitled" to be doctors "from the start".
__________________
Did you ever hear of having more than you wanted? So that you couldn’t want anything else and then started looking for something else to want? It seems like we’re always searching for something to satisfy us, and never finding it. - Susan Eloise Hinton, 1967
Lisnaholic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2019, 10:43 PM   #289 (permalink)
one-balled nipple jockey
 
OccultHawk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Dirty Souf Biatch
Posts: 14,747
Default

I don’t think he means entitled to practice medicine but rather entitled to a certain amount of comfort and security like receiving medicine
__________________

¡¡¡brigada juvenil anarquista!!!
FLARLY WE RIDE
OccultHawk is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2019, 06:22 AM   #290 (permalink)
Born To Be Mild
 
Lisnaholic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: He lives on Love Street
Posts: 3,184
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Anteater View Post
Eh, I'm pretty sure learning to "speak" and "write" white is better than this.

BBC.com - Pidgin
^ Thanks! That's a wonderful link - I've sent it on to some friends of mine.
__________________
Did you ever hear of having more than you wanted? So that you couldn’t want anything else and then started looking for something else to want? It seems like we’re always searching for something to satisfy us, and never finding it. - Susan Eloise Hinton, 1967
Lisnaholic is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Similar Threads



© 2003-2019 Advameg, Inc.