The queer corner

The Batlord · 08-07-2018, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Oriphiel

You can't tell me you gents aren't having fun.

We were talking about the X-Men. Please stay on topic.

edit: for the next little while I'm gonna see just how many threads I can steer towards X-Men discussion.

Zhanteimi · 08-07-2018, 08:37 PM

Died of AIDS. Gayness confirmed.

Oriphiel · 08-07-2018, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

We were talking about the X-Men. Please stay on topic.

edit: for the next little while I'm gonna see just how many threads I can steer towards X-Men discussion.

Are there any LGBT X-Men? I can't remember.

The Batlord · 08-07-2018, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Oriphiel

Are there any LGBT X-Men? I can't remember.

Northstar. And Mystique has been in the X-Men for some reason that I'm sure everyone regretted.

Neapolitan · 08-07-2018, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss

Interesting, more trolls.
I don't find this particularly surprising, since it's the internet, what I find a little disconcerting is the apparent lack of moderation here, if I may be a little critical with the current version of musicbanter.

It would be perfect if you could moderate your own threads at least but not likely I guess.

To answer your "serious" query, try replacing the F-word with the N-word, see how many laughs you get. :/

Trolls? I was trying to be mature and offer different opinions. I was also trying to be mature by hoping this forum would grow up a little and stop using the F-word but if my attempt to raise the maturity level of this forum one millionth of degree is met with accusations of trolls than I give up. I don't care, or maybe I should say I stopped caring. I thought I did care once but I guess it was beaten out of me not to care anymore. I guess I have to face the facts Music Banter will certainly never become Maturation Banter.

I am totally lost with that analogy cause those words are so ubiquitous. This year I was called both the F-word and the N-word, so it's not like people stopped using those words in 2018. Sorry I brought it up, but I thought it was a relevant topic, but perhaps not relevant to this thread.

Final thought: I understand you frustrations, many of my threads get ransacked, spammed, and/or trolled. One thing I know for sure is that you'll never have to worry about is this place growing up.

Key · 08-07-2018, 08:55 PM

I like that this place isn't grown up. It's a way to get away from everything else. Some funny **** is said on a daily basis and its because we're all just super immature.

The Batlord · 08-08-2018, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Oriphiel

Eh, it's not really all that controversial. You do you, man. But this a forum, and we're here for the bants. I call silly stuff out when I see it, doesn't mean that I'm deeply offended or want the thread to be deleted or anything.

Btw, I thought about it at work, and realized that I actually love this thread, and am going to bump it into perpetuity with super gay Hi-NRG songs.

How did I not know of such ludicrous fun music?

Zhanteimi · 08-08-2018, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Oriphiel

Are there any LGBT X-Men? I can't remember.

In the comic book reboot back in 2000, Colossus putts from the rough.

The Batlord · 08-08-2018, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Zhanteimi

In the comic book reboot back in 2000, Colossus putts from the rough.

Hence SpiderCat.

adidasss · 08-09-2018, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Oriphiel

You mean like how I wrote that big ass on-topic query that only Chiomara addressed? I'm actually kinda disappointed that adidass didn't respond at all. Really wanted to get his opinion.

You kind of put down a lot of thoughts that required some elaborate responses that I didn't really have time to get into and Chiomara addressed a lot of them but because you asked nicely here's at least a bit of a response...

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Originally Posted by Oriphiel

Here's something I've been thinking about lately if you guys want to discuss it:

How much does someone's sexual orientation affect their personality? Like, if you suddenly realized that you want to start experimenting, or deep down you want to switch genders, and so on, how much do you think it would change the core of your person?

This is really complicated, I don't have a lot of experience on this topic since I simply went through a "everyone expects me to be straight so I guess I am and I don't even know what gay is" phase to suddenly becoming aware that I'm attracted to men. I've never looked back since, once I had the eureka moment I really had no doubts or second guesses.

Obviously I think I am a very different person being gay than I would have been straight, there are loads of specific sub-culture elements and particularities to the gay experience that have influenced also on how I react to the world in general (like for example, I think gay people are normally a bit more resilient than the rest of the population, since being hated on by the majority of the planet kind of makes you either become extra strong and sure of yourself or you end up suicidal unfortunately, we are probably more open to different people and ideas, less prone to be conservative etc).

But did I suddenly start being a different person since I've self-actualized (is that the right word?) as a gay person, I don't think so. Sexual orientation doesn't have much to do with empathy, I think you're either born with it or not.

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But here's my real question that I've been leading up to:

Was the movie Chasing Amy an awful and bigoted piece of trash, or was it actually a pretty smart look at problems that we all have to this day? People always **** on it because the girl (who identifies as a lesbian) ends up falling in love with a guy. They see it as some sort of commentary that all lesbians are just pretending, or something like that.

But I think the point was that sexual orientation isn't always clear cut. People always say "Being gay isn't a choice", and that's certainly true for some people, but for others, it takes a lot of experimentation before they really figure out who/what they want from life. And yet so many people, both LGBT and straight, look down on people who are unsure, especially when they say they're one orientation but then change their mind. They look at them like they're a traitor, or a faker, or something, when they're just trying to figure out what's what.

So, like, is the movie actually kinda insightful in that way? Did people misunderstand it?

I really don't remember that movie at all, but I can tell you that once some years ago a friend of a friend made a comment to me that she could turn me straight (or she would try or something like that), that I felt was totally disrespectful and just plumb stupid. In a country as homophobic as Croatia, you can be quite sure that if a man comes out as gay, there is really no doubt left in his mind. To imply someone could try to change that means that you don't really understand how sexuality normally works.

Again, I don't know what happened in the movie, and you makes some good points about people experimenting and finding themselves, some even argue that sexuality can be fluid. But I think these things are very rare. Normally people are quite sure about their sexual preferences, and I guess I understand the criticism, especially because the character was a woman, identifying as a lesbian, ending up being interested in a man. If I was a lesbian, probably I would be a little upset by this idea. It's curious but,.as far as I know, there has never been a movie where a gay guy is being wooed by a straight woman that ends up falling for her. For some reason, the assumption is that gay men are quite sure, but gay women could be swayed (by some choice dick I guess), which is sexist, and movie depictions of this kind of trope really don't help. So...:/

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Originally Posted by Kiiii

In my lifetime, I've had short relationships with men. Nothing too serious or anything. It was during a time of my life when I was still figuring **** out. I don't necessarily identify with a specific sexuality since I don't really know how to phrase that I find anyone attractive. But I'm rarely even sexually attracted to someone.

Maybe pansexual or asexual? They have a name for everything basically but not identifying with something is ok too...as long as you go for whatever you want (or don't want)...

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Key . Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 13,102	I like that this place isn't grown up. It's a way to get away from everything else. Some funny **** is said on a daily basis and its because we're all just super immature.