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Ayn Marx 06-27-2022 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2208721)
Nope, you're not a true intellectual until you embrace rigid fundamentalist interpretations as a way to justify scapegoating immigrants for society’s problems.

How do you qualify as a ’true intellectual’?
As to scapegoating immigrants who’s doing the scapegoating?
Whose embracing rigid fundamentalist interpretations?
As to such interpretations, Islam is founded on them and continues to be.
If you don’t think that’s the case try analysing/criticising any passage in the Koran with the first Muslim you encounter. Good luck.

Society’s problems? The problem is a very nature of our species.

Frownland 06-28-2022 09:39 AM

You wouldn't be able to handle it if I told you.

Ayn Marx 06-28-2022 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2208785)
You wouldn't be able to handle it if I told you.

Your assertion has no specific subject. If you imagine ‘it’ provides sufficient focus you’re confusing your thoughts with the vapid nature of your expression. That this little digital coven has as a moderator anyone capable of such sloppy expression tells us more than we want to know.

Frownland 06-28-2022 07:42 PM

See? You haven't even heard it and it's already proving to be too much for you.

Ayn Marx 06-28-2022 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2208846)
See? You haven't even heard it and it's already proving to be too much for you.

The mere fact so sloppy a ’thinker’ is a moderator is indeed too much for me.
If I thought your intelligence extended further than it does I’d draw attention to the contradictions in what passes for your english expression. Pointless.

Frownland 06-28-2022 07:59 PM

Ja you probably would've owned me pretty hard.

Ayn Marx 06-29-2022 03:13 AM

Back to poofs & d*kes in Saudi Arabia - - - -

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...es-middle-east

jwb 06-29-2022 10:46 AM

This thread certainly took an interesting turn.

Anyone mention that Muhammad was a pedo yet?

SGR 06-29-2022 10:54 AM

I think Socrates was too

jwb 06-29-2022 12:56 PM

All Greeks are pederasts.

Ayn Marx 06-29-2022 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2208917)
This thread certainly took an interesting turn.

Anyone mention that Muhammad was a pedo yet?

I have a dim recollection of having done so but not on this thread. The tradition continues in many middle eastern nations. Afganistan has the added claim to fame in their ‘dancing boys’

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Em91Vy9s1VM

jwb 06-29-2022 10:10 PM

I think that's more of an example of Greek influence

Ayn Marx 06-30-2022 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2209017)
I think that's more of an example of Greek influence

If you’re suggesting Afghanis are still influenced by Greek sexual traditions so many centuries after contact, that’s a big leap.

jwb 06-30-2022 12:33 AM

Thanks for fact checking my joke loser

Ayn Marx 06-30-2022 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2209024)
Thanks for fact checking my joke loser

Sorry, I missed the humour. Loser ? What is your problem ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsKqMNDoR4o

jwb 06-30-2022 12:53 AM


Ayn Marx 07-01-2022 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2209027)

Yes, it is creepy approaching someone like that. However, creepiness is often how men married to women play that dishonest game.
Sometimes when I found out someone trying to pick me up had a wife at home I’d ask for her signed permission on their solicitor’s letterhead. They more often than not panicked and ran.

One strange aspect of this I’ve related on the forum previously I’ll repeat. During the early days of the AIDS epidemic a number of Australian universities conducted face to face surveys of men hunting sex in public toilets and parks.
Not only did they learn more than 65% were married to women but the vast majority of those suffered the delusion they couldn’t get AIDS because “ I’m not a poof/fairy etc” . Go figure.

jadis 07-01-2022 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Ayn Marx (Post 2209128)
Yes, it is creepy approaching someone like that. However, creepiness is often how men married to women play that dishonest game.
Sometimes when I found out someone trying to pick me up had a wife at home I’d ask for her signed permission on their solicitor’s letterhead. They more often than not panicked and ran.

One strange aspect of this I’ve related on the forum previously I’ll repeat. During the early days of the AIDS epidemic a number of Australian universities conducted face to face surveys of men hunting sex in public toilets and parks.
Not only did they learn more than 65% were married to women but the vast majority of those suffered the delusion they couldn’t get AIDS because “ I’m not a poof/fairy etc” . Go figure.

Incredible. If an "Australian guy trying to have gay sex and thinking he can't get AIDS cause he's NOT GAY" is not a cumtown bit I don't know what is (jwb knows what I'm talking about, apologies to the non-c&m boy contingent in the audience)

jwb 07-01-2022 05:08 PM

The only way to get immunity to AIDS is to stab yourself in the heart with a stingray. That's a traditional Aussie remedy for most illnesses.

SGR 07-01-2022 05:37 PM

Crikey!

WWWP 07-01-2022 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2209024)
Thanks for fact checking my joke loser

Why does this sound so familiar

Ayn Marx 07-01-2022 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2209182)
The only way to get immunity to AIDS is to stab yourself in the heart with a stingray. That's a traditional Aussie remedy for most illnesses.

Including self delusion and plain stupidity?

Off topic but you’ve reminded me of a scary event at age 5. We lived on the edge of the beach so swimming summer and winter was my thing. One cold morning walking into the water I stood on a stingray. It shot forward so fast I fell backwards , luckily not getting stung. They somehow managed to cover themselves with sand so could be invisible. Didn’t stop me going for my before school swim every morning though.

Ayn Marx 07-02-2022 03:43 AM

Bubble gum but cute in a somewhat brainless way.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_G3hd_V-b8

Ayn Marx 07-04-2022 01:13 AM

Meanwhile back on the ranch the Republicans are dusting off their mindless homophobia in electoral desperation.

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...hobia-misogyny

And back in the dim-dark-days of Queen Victoria’s Empire :- https://book-it.org/2018/06/the-love...peak-its-name/

Silly old bat didn’t believe there could be a crime of lesbianism. She just couldn’t imagine what two women could do for each other. Maybe if she’d encountered a dild0 the size of Albert’s Princely member she’d have been enlightened?

Ayn Marx 07-04-2022 06:59 PM

Being ‘gay’ in Saudi Arabia often isn’t what it appears to be. Instance, otherwise straight males don’t consider themselves gay if they only top. Delusional nonsense sometimes repeated in the west, in jail for example. My view is human sexuality is often delusional when denial rears it’s ugly head.

Love the title of the attached article “The Kingdom of The Closet"


https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...closet/305774/

Ayn Marx 07-06-2022 03:09 AM

The ‘Innocence of Youth'
 
Two gay friends and their two sons returned to Australia today after six years in Hong Kong. Their boys are now 4 and 8 so I saw some changes. The youngest startled me with a joke. "A man is sitting at the doctor's office. The doctor says, "I have some bad news. I'm afraid you're going to have to stop masturbating." "I don't understand, doc," the patient says. "Why?" "Because," the doctor says. "I'm trying to examine you."

My generation knew nothing about sex at that age. How things have changed.
Now before any of you start in on ‘What do you expect with gay parents’, last year two straight friends visited with the three brats. 5.6 & 8 years old. At the front door the six year old asked me “You got any computer games’? When I answered in the negative the oldest asked “You got any porn we can watch”. Judging from mum & dad’s lack of reaction this wasn’t something unusual.

rubber soul 07-06-2022 07:14 AM

I don't think things have changed that much. When I was a kid, our neighbors taught their two year old to cuss like a sailor, they thought it was cute. I caught up with him twenty some years later. He was totally embarrassed by what his parents did.

Guybrush 07-06-2022 08:30 AM

I'm pretty sure my own 6 year old does not know what porn is. For myself, I guess I learned about it around 10-12 years of age or so? I was definitely exposed to it way earlier (younger than 5) when I found some magazines in a wooded area, but I didn't understand what it was.

The town / area where I spent most of my childhood is riddled with old german WW2 bunkers. Kids, mostly young boys, used to use those bunkers as hangouts and finding racy magazines lying around in them was fairly common occurrence when exploring.

A buddy of mine would steal porn mags at the local gas station and hide a stash of them under a big rock a few hundred meters from his parents' house. His parents also had cable TV and while porn was censored in Norway with the screen just going black whenever it was on, he managed to bypass by switching to danish subtitles so he could record porn on VHS. So he snuck about the house at night time to do that and some of the VHS tapes got passed around.

All that hard work back in the day just to get a hold of some porn. Once, a group of us collected a dumb amount of bottles that we used to buy a porno mag (bottles returned to stores in exchange for money/things), but we were late teenagers and I guess it was more of a comedy stunt.

grindy 07-06-2022 09:01 AM

I wasn't aware of this "crisis" but really enjoyed this video nonetheless.


jwb 07-06-2022 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ayn Marx (Post 2209582)
Two gay friends and their two sons returned to Australia today after six years in Hong Kong. Their boys are now 4 and 8 so I saw some changes. The youngest startled me with a joke. "A man is sitting at the doctor's office. The doctor says, "I have some bad news. I'm afraid you're going to have to stop masturbating." "I don't understand, doc," the patient says. "Why?" "Because," the doctor says. "I'm trying to examine you."

My generation knew nothing about sex at that age. How things have changed.
Now before any of you start in on ‘What do you expect with gay parents’, last year two straight friends visited with the three brats. 5.6 & 8 years old. At the front door the six year old asked me “You got any computer games’? When I answered in the negative the oldest asked “You got any porn we can watch”. Judging from mum & dad’s lack of reaction this wasn’t something unusual.

when I was growing up I experimented with my neighbor. We were both like 5 years old. It wasn't overtly sexual it was more like I show you my underwear you show me yours... And we kept upping the ante until he came up with putting our dicks in each other's mouths lol.

In retrospect I think he was molested by his dad or something because I dunno... Just a vibe thing plus this one time I went over there house and I had this hot wheels car I had got from the grocery store and his dad was like "wow what a cool car!" Then my friend was like " I have one of those too..." And his dad was like "yeah but this one's NEW." It took me many years to figure out he might not have been referring to the car.

Later on I also had another friend who's younger siblings were hypersexual at a young age and I know for a fact their parents were molesting them. So yeah those kids who watch porn with their parents.... There's at least a decent chance they're being molested.

Ayn Marx 07-06-2022 06:22 PM

I escaped anything like molestation of the physical kind but was thoroughly traumatised witnessing what went on behind the scenes in the Cathedral were I was a pipe organ student. Invited to a weekend away at the seaside by a group of priests I was offered the ‘privilege’ of being the naked offering on their domestic black mass alter. I fled.
All this had a profoundly negative effect on my view of religion but not male/male sexuality. When I hit 14 I knew I was attracted to males of my age and indulged. It was only very good luck that saved me from potential disaster when I soon discovered a strong attraction to older males.

Apologies to those of you who’ve read me on this subject previously.

Ayn Marx 07-06-2022 06:27 PM

I often wonder why hetro males of a certain kind get their knickers in a knot over things like this. I suspect they’re struggling to pretend it doesn’t turn them on. I also wonder how much they know about the history of English theatre where for centuries boys played the role of females in more than just Shakespeare.

https://www.starobserver.com.au/news...-school/214312

Putting this in an historic (hysteric?) context :- https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...nd-gay/513812/

jwb 07-07-2022 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Ayn Marx (Post 2209652)
I escaped anything like molestation of the physical kind but was thoroughly traumatised witnessing what went on behind the scenes in the Cathedral were I was a pipe organ student. Invited to a weekend away at the seaside by a group of priests I was offered the ‘privilege’ of being the naked offering on their domestic black mass alter. I fled.
All this had a profoundly negative effect on my view of religion but not male/male sexuality. When I hit 14 I knew I was attracted to males of my age and indulged. It was only very good luck that saved me from potential disaster when I soon discovered a strong attraction to older males.

Apologies to those of you who’ve read me on this subject previously.

Damn that black mass story is creepy af.

I also avoided being molested myself but had a very close call. Basically some old dude lured me into a stairwell and then chickened out or something. The full story is on my blog.

But yeah I've known people who it happened to like my friends siblings. His younger brother and sister. We all knew their dad beat the mom and the kids but my friend also told me his siblings were sexually abused. Which explained their overtly sexual behavior at such a young age.

Also my other friends younger brother. We knew his family for years and were briefly living with them in this ****ty duplex after my parents split... And this Mexican day labor looking dude molested my friends 4 year old brother one day in broad daylight. Just pulled his pants down and started fondling him. My friend grabbed a broomstick and beat him over the head with it till he ****ed off.

The Batlord 07-07-2022 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Ayn Marx (Post 2209652)
I escaped anything like molestation of the physical kind but was thoroughly traumatised witnessing what went on behind the scenes in the Cathedral were I was a pipe organ student. Invited to a weekend away at the seaside by a group of priests I was offered the ‘privilege’ of being the naked offering on their domestic black mass alter. I fled.
All this had a profoundly negative effect on my view of religion but not male/male sexuality. When I hit 14 I knew I was attracted to males of my age and indulged. It was only very good luck that saved me from potential disaster when I soon discovered a strong attraction to older males.

Apologies to those of you who’ve read me on this subject previously.

Black Mass huh? Surprised it wasn't a reference to a big black dick you took marching with MLK.

Queen Boo 07-07-2022 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Ayn Marx (Post 2209653)
I often wonder why hetro males of a certain kind get their knickers in a knot over things like this. I suspect they’re struggling to pretend it doesn’t turn them on. I also wonder how much they know about the history of English theatre where for centuries boys played the role of females in more than just Shakespeare.

https://www.starobserver.com.au/news...-school/214312

The same guys calling gay and trans people groomers on Twitter say sh*t like "I wish I had this teacher as a kid" in response to stories about female teachers raping their students and "Start the clock" when commenting on pictures of underage girls.

So to answer your question, projection, it's always been projection.

ribbons 07-07-2022 01:23 PM

I've always liked designer Tom Ford as a person and followed his interviews. I had no idea that Tom's husband, Richard Buckley, had passed away. So sad to learn of this - I greatly admired their relationship.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLSZy0ULHtA

jwb 07-07-2022 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Queen Boo (Post 2209700)
The same guys calling gay and trans people groomers on Twitter say sh*t like "I wish I had this teacher as a kid" in response to stories about female teachers raping their students and "Start the clock" when commenting on pictures of underage girls.

So to answer your question, projection, it's always been projection.

that's more because we don't take female predators seriously. If it's a male teacher with a female student people will lose their ****.

jwb 07-07-2022 02:54 PM

Intuitively I feel the same way those men feel though.... Even if it's wrong. How are you supposed to sit here and feel bad for the kid when you are secretly jealous?

Also notice it's only the hot teachers who seem to get busted... Probably because the hotter the perp is the harder it is for the "victim" to keep their mouth shut.

Even if the gender roles are swapped and it's a hot gay teacher and a student... Sorry but that doesn't feel like as much of an accomplishment. Gay men are the most down to **** breed of people I've ever encountered by far.

Ayn Marx 07-07-2022 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2209783)

Also notice it's only the hot teachers who seem to get busted... Probably because the hotter the perp is the harder it is for the "victim" to keep their mouth shut.

That’s a point I hadn’t considered. I suspect in lots of cases it’s true. There’s an aspect of the last few decades exposing the sexual exploitation of children. Some calculating brats have learnt to make false accusations against teachers unless they are given better grades. A recent case here was thrown out of court when the school presented security surveillance videos covering the claimed assaults.
There’s another creepy side to all this. Psychiatrists tell us same sex exploration/experimentation is common with young males who in later years discover they’re not into it. They make themselves feel better by pretending they were forced into such scenarios. The problem we now have with all this is it’s becoming more difficult to catch the real offenders. One of the best solutions we have is providing the young with realistic, but not too scary, sex education at an earlier age than is now common in many ‘christian’ countries. As to christians and their place in all this, don’t get me started ! And before anyone jumps on me for that comment islam and other faiths are equally guilty.


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Even if the gender roles are swapped and it's a hot gay teacher and a student... Sorry but that doesn't feel like as much of an accomplishment. Gay men are the most down to **** breed of people I've ever encountered by far.
Can’t help wondering if you’re speaking from experience. Things changed somewhat when AIDS hit the scene. Many who previously were ( there’s no other word) sluts toned down their activities. With the false security AIDS ‘cures' have provided defences are down again.

Ayn Marx 07-07-2022 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2209783)
Gay men are the most down to **** breed of people I've ever encountered by far.

Speaking from personal experience ? ? ?


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