What Game Are You Playing Right Now?

Sparky · 10-07-2012, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by LoathsomePete

I'd say the problems lie more in the mechanics of the game, like the constantly respawning checkpoints where everybody drops what they're doing to chase you down and kill you... even if it's the faction you're currently working for. Also without a real antagonist I really felt like I wasn't working towards anything tangible.

If you patch it so enemy's aren't constantly re spawning and chasing you within every 10 seconds of traveling I think you fix the game.

Have you seen any gameplay of far cry 3? It looks gorgeous.

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Rjinn · 10-07-2012, 01:04 PM

Finished AC Revelations finally. I thought the ending was superb. Left you on edge and gave the impression that the real drama has just begun in Desmond's world.

Can't really say anymore without being spoiler.

Tomorrow I'll probably finish DMC4. I'm hoping that Dante's story mode is more exciting than Nero's.

Guybrush · 10-07-2012, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by LoathsomePete

I'd say the problems lie more in the mechanics of the game, like the constantly respawning checkpoints where everybody drops what they're doing to chase you down and kill you... even if it's the faction you're currently working for. Also without a real antagonist I really felt like I wasn't working towards anything tangible.

Yeah, it was interesting enough for me to play through, but the endless fighting guards at outposts and other cars got real annoying before I was done. I thought it was a very good game with some very annoying and noticeable flaws. Fighting the same sort of guys from start till the very end also made it a bit repetitive.

I agree that the game could use a patch to change the enemy behaviour somewhat.

Circe · 10-07-2012, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by gunnels

In other news, I think we should have an MB group on Steam.

I'd be up for that. Maybe if we can somehow find nine people that play TF2 we can organise a Highlander team or something.

Rjinn · 10-08-2012, 08:16 PM

GTA 4 or Skyrim. Help me pick one!

LoathsomePete · 10-08-2012, 11:30 PM

With Skyrim you will definitely get your money's worth for entertainment, because you can easily spend 100+ hours playing. However with all that content there's a lot of missed opportunity to really create anything tangible. If you're familiar with the last few Bethesda games (lets say from Oblivion onward) that there are particular habits they never grow out of (characters all being voiced by the same 3 actors, for example). The main story is pretty mediocre, but there is really a lot of room for you to really create your own character and have them forge their own story. I started in July and I easily put 88 hours into 1 character, who went from being a mercenary to being the leader of the thieve's guild and the Dark Brotherhood, with stealth skills up the butt. All my choices were really based on the personality I had crafted for him, and he had a really neat character arc.

Basically the bottom line is you have to put some work into the character and story part of the game, and it takes some real imagination. Basically it's a giant sandbox, filled with things to do, but none of it really matters that much. It's kind of sad because I'm playing through The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask and it has a lot of similarities to Skyrim, but it does it a lot better, and it's 11 years older. (I'll elaborate on that later).

Okay and for Grand Theft Auto IV, here's my opinion. It's a fucking great game, if you don't mind that a lot of the wacky humour is gone. There's still some funny radio stations and tv commercials, but gone is the real funny moments in the story. Instead the game takes on a very serious role, and I think plays it out pretty well, it's certainly one of the better adult stories in video games this console generation. It's a lot like the TV show The Wire if you're looking for a frame of reference, a lot of reflections of the failures of institutions. Everybody is corrupt, and nothing ever fucking changes, the game is the game.

So yeah the game is a little heavy handed in the story department, but I think it makes up for it in the gameplay department. It never gets tiring plowing through a crowded sidewalk and watching these bodies ragdoll over your car's hood (bonnet) in a realistic fashion. Also the cover based mechanics work really well, probably the best at the time next to Gears of War and Uncharted. There's some new mechanics introduced like the ability to become friends with the various contacts you meet across the game, usually people who give you missions. If you call them up and hang out with them, they begin to like you more and will do certain things for you. It's also cool because you get to learn more about their personality, like how this bulging steroid abuser dudebro douchebag was really fat when they were a teenager and had super low self-esteem problems.

So the game has a pretty interesting story and a lot to say on the matters of dysfunctional families, the '90's wars in Eastern Europe, the "American Dream", and depression. Definitely a win in the story department, and really something memorable if you go to the trouble of getting to know the characters. It also gives you some interesting roleplaying moments because you also have some moral choices you can make, like not killing a character your boss asks you to kill, only to have them show up later in the game. There's also random strangers you can meet on the streets between certain hours of the game's schedule.

So Skyrim will net you a nice return of investment with time and money saved, but Grand Theft Auto IV has the better story.

debaserr · 10-08-2012, 11:36 PM

Let's not forget gameplay, GTA4 wins that by a ton. It has great driving, ok shooting and there are so many cool moments because the world feels pretty alive. If you haven't played a GTA game before I would pick that before Skyrim for sure. If you have, it's a much harder decision.

Rjinn · 10-09-2012, 04:12 AM

Ah, very informative. I can actually use a extremely imaginative game, but there are too many games on my list to really spend hours on it. I've been playing too much shooter though, it'd be nice to have a change of pace.

Guess I'll go with Skyrim. 'preciate the insight.

Sparky · 10-09-2012, 11:19 AM

dishonored is looking real sweet. I was super skeptical about considering the only other game the studio had made was might and magic 3 or some ish. But it turns out the creative director is the dude from the original deus ex, and the artists are the same studio from half life. Game looks really fun

, anybody get it?

Phantom Limb · 10-09-2012, 11:24 AM

I'm gonna go get dishonored today, it looks pretty sweet.

10-07-2012, 01:04 PM	#5222 (permalink)
Rjinn The Aerosol in your Soul Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: New South Wales, Australia Posts: 1,546	Finished AC Revelations finally. I thought the ending was superb. Left you on edge and gave the impression that the real drama has just begun in Desmond's world. Can't really say anymore without being spoiler. Tomorrow I'll probably finish DMC4. I'm hoping that Dante's story mode is more exciting than Nero's. __________________ last.fm

10-08-2012, 08:16 PM	#5225 (permalink)
Rjinn The Aerosol in your Soul Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: New South Wales, Australia Posts: 1,546	GTA 4 or Skyrim. Help me pick one! __________________ last.fm

10-08-2012, 11:30 PM	#5226 (permalink)
LoathsomePete Cardboard Box Realtor Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Hobb's End Posts: 7,648	With Skyrim you will definitely get your money's worth for entertainment, because you can easily spend 100+ hours playing. However with all that content there's a lot of missed opportunity to really create anything tangible. If you're familiar with the last few Bethesda games (lets say from Oblivion onward) that there are particular habits they never grow out of (characters all being voiced by the same 3 actors, for example). The main story is pretty mediocre, but there is really a lot of room for you to really create your own character and have them forge their own story. I started in July and I easily put 88 hours into 1 character, who went from being a mercenary to being the leader of the thieve's guild and the Dark Brotherhood, with stealth skills up the butt. All my choices were really based on the personality I had crafted for him, and he had a really neat character arc. Basically the bottom line is you have to put some work into the character and story part of the game, and it takes some real imagination. Basically it's a giant sandbox, filled with things to do, but none of it really matters that much. It's kind of sad because I'm playing through The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask and it has a lot of similarities to Skyrim, but it does it a lot better, and it's 11 years older. (I'll elaborate on that later). Okay and for Grand Theft Auto IV, here's my opinion. It's a fucking great game, if you don't mind that a lot of the wacky humour is gone. There's still some funny radio stations and tv commercials, but gone is the real funny moments in the story. Instead the game takes on a very serious role, and I think plays it out pretty well, it's certainly one of the better adult stories in video games this console generation. It's a lot like the TV show The Wire if you're looking for a frame of reference, a lot of reflections of the failures of institutions. Everybody is corrupt, and nothing ever fucking changes, the game is the game. So yeah the game is a little heavy handed in the story department, but I think it makes up for it in the gameplay department. It never gets tiring plowing through a crowded sidewalk and watching these bodies ragdoll over your car's hood (bonnet) in a realistic fashion. Also the cover based mechanics work really well, probably the best at the time next to Gears of War and Uncharted. There's some new mechanics introduced like the ability to become friends with the various contacts you meet across the game, usually people who give you missions. If you call them up and hang out with them, they begin to like you more and will do certain things for you. It's also cool because you get to learn more about their personality, like how this bulging steroid abuser dudebro douchebag was really fat when they were a teenager and had super low self-esteem problems. So the game has a pretty interesting story and a lot to say on the matters of dysfunctional families, the '90's wars in Eastern Europe, the "American Dream", and depression. Definitely a win in the story department, and really something memorable if you go to the trouble of getting to know the characters. It also gives you some interesting roleplaying moments because you also have some moral choices you can make, like not killing a character your boss asks you to kill, only to have them show up later in the game. There's also random strangers you can meet on the streets between certain hours of the game's schedule. So Skyrim will net you a nice return of investment with time and money saved, but Grand Theft Auto IV has the better story. __________________ Last.FM 101 Albums That May Not Change Your Life, But I Really Like And You Might Too

10-08-2012, 11:36 PM	#5227 (permalink)
debaserr eat the masters Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 5,467	Let's not forget gameplay, GTA4 wins that by a ton. It has great driving, ok shooting and there are so many cool moments because the world feels pretty alive. If you haven't played a GTA game before I would pick that before Skyrim for sure. If you have, it's a much harder decision. __________________ Last.FM

10-09-2012, 04:12 AM	#5228 (permalink)
Rjinn The Aerosol in your Soul Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: New South Wales, Australia Posts: 1,546	Ah, very informative. I can actually use a extremely imaginative game, but there are too many games on my list to really spend hours on it. I've been playing too much shooter though, it'd be nice to have a change of pace. Guess I'll go with Skyrim. 'preciate the insight. __________________ last.fm

10-09-2012, 11:19 AM	#5229 (permalink)
Sparky not really Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,223	dishonored is looking real sweet. I was super skeptical about considering the only other game the studio had made was might and magic 3 or some ish. But it turns out the creative director is the dude from the original deus ex, and the artists are the same studio from half life. Game looks really fun , anybody get it?