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Old 12-29-2015, 10:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So last year I got bored in math class, and I decided to start jotting down post-hardcore bands, cause whatever. I got about 30/40 down, then started this quasi-obsession with jotting down any new band I found about into the list.

Well, at this point it includes over 200 bands, many of which I haven't heard much of, others complete discogs. I love the genre, and want to finish what I started, so I guess I'll start this journal to document my journey into one of punk's most artistic movements.

The List:
Spoiler for The List:
...And They Will Know Us By the Trail of Dead
1000 Travels of Jawahartel
6 Finger Satellite
Admiral
AFI- Black Sails in the Sunset 8/10, Art of Drowning 8/10
After Words
Age
Alexisonfire
All Through a Life
American Football- American Football 9/10
Anomie
Antioch Arrow- The Lady is a Cat 9/10
Appleseed Cast
Articles of Faith
Assay
At the Drive-In- Hell Paso 7/10, ¡Alfaro Vive Carajo! 9/10, Acrobatic Tenement 8/10, In/Casino/Out 10/10, Vaya EP 10/10, Relationship of Command 10/10
Atlas Losing Grip
Baaader Brains
Balance and Composure
Basement- I Wish I Could Stay Here 8/10
Bear vs. Shark
Big Black- Lungs EP 8/10, Atomizer 8/10
Bitch Magnet- Ben Hur 10/10
Black Eyes
Black Flag- My War 9/10, Family Man 8/10, Process of Weeding Out 9/10
Box Car Racer
Boysetsfire
Braid
Brainiac
Brand New- Your Favorite Weapon 8/10, Deja Entendu 10/10, The Devil and God Are Raging Inside Me 9/10, Daisy 9/10
Brave Little Abacus
Breakwater
Brief Lives
Bullets*In
Burning Airlines
Butthole Surfers
Cap'n Jazz- Schmap'n Schmazz 9/10
Carther Matha
Casket Lottery
Catena Collapse
Cave In
Ceremony- Rohnert Park 8/10, L-Shaped Man 8/10
Chino Horde
Chiodos
Choke- Foreward 8/10, Slow Fade 8/10
Circa Survive
Circle Takes the Square- Decompositions 9/10
Citizen- Youth 6/10
City of Caterpillar
Cleons Down
Cloud Nothings- Attack on Memory 10/10, Here and Nowhere Else 10/10
Coalesce
Coheed and Cambria
Condominium- Carl 7/10
Converge- Petitioning the Empty Sky 10/10, Caring and Killing 9/10, Jane Doe 10/10, You Fail Me 7/10, All We Love We Leave Behind need to relisten/10
Cows
Crash of Rhinos
Cursive- Domestica 9/10, The Ugly Organ 9/10
Dag Nasty
Daniel Striped Tiger- No Difference 9/10
Das Oath- 2004 LP 7/10, Mini-LP 9/10
Deadverse
Defeater- Empty Days and Sleepless Nights 8/10, Letters Home 5/10
Deftones- Adrenaline 7/10, Around the Fur 9/10, White Pony 10/10, Saturday Night Wrist 10/10
Dinosaur Jr. (S/T & You're Living All Over Me)
Dope Body
Drive Like Jehu- Yank Crimes 8/10
Egg Hunt
El Santo
Elliott
Embrace- Embrace 7/10
End of a Year/Self Defense Family
Engine Down
Envy- All the Footprints You've Ever Left need to relisten/10
Everybody Row
Ex Models
F***ed Up
Facel Vega
Failure
Fall of Troy
Fall on Deaf Ears
Far
Faraquet
Fear Before
Finch
fIREhose
Flashbulb Memory
Flipper- Generic Album 10/10, Gone Fishin' 9/10, American Grafishy 8/10
Foxmoulder- Hindsight 8/10, Lethe 8/10
Fuel (Fuel-gazi)
Fugazi- 13 Songs 7/10, Repeater 8/10, Steady Diet 8/10, In On the Kill Taker 10/10, Red Medicine 10/10, End Hits need to relisten/10, The Argument need to relisten/10, Furniture 8/10
Frodus- And We Washed Our Weapons in the Sea 9/10
Get Up Kids- Four Minute Mile 9/10, Things to Write Home About 7/10
Girls Against Boys
Give
Give Up the Ghost
Glassjaw- Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About Silence 9/10, Worship and Tribute 8/10
Gnu
Gone
Gray Matter
Gunner's Daughter- Dissolutions 7/10
Hail the Sun
Haram
Helmet- Strap It On 6/10
Helms Alee
Heroin
Hoover
Hot Cross
Hot Snakes
Hot Water Music- Feul For the Hate Game 8/10, Flight and a Crash 8/10, Caution 9/10
Hum- You'd Prefer an Astronaut 5/10
Husker Du- Metal Circus 9/10, Zen Arcade 10/10, New Day Rising 8/10
I Hate Myself
Iceage
Iconoclast
Ignition
Indian Summer
Ink & Dagger
Inkwell
Into It. Over It.
Ivich
Jawbox- Jawbox 9/10
Jawbreaker- Unfun 6/10
Jerome's Dream
Jesus Lizard- Goat 8/10, Liar 9/10
Jet Black
Jets to Brazil
Jimmy Eat World- Bleed American 8/10
Joan of Arc
KEN mode- Entrench 8/10, Success 10/10
Kid Brother Collective
Kill Sadie
Kill Holiday
Killdozer
Knapsack
La Dispute- Vancouver 7/10, Here. Hear. 8/10, Somewhere Between Vega and Altair 9/10, Wildlife 10/10, split with Touche Amore 10/10
Lardo
La Quite
Leatherface- Mush 8/10
Life At These Speeds
Lifetime- Jersey's Best Dancers 9/10
Loma Prieta
Lumber Lung
Lungfish
Make Do and Mend- End Measured Mile 8/10, Everything You Ever Loved 6/10
Mannequin Hands
McLusky- McLuskey Does Dallas 8/10
Melvins- "June Bug" 9/10
Men as Trees
METZ- METZ 7/10, METZ II 9/10
mewithoutyou
Milk Teeth
Mineral- Power of Failing need to relisten/10
Minor Threat- "In My Eyes" 7/10
Minutemen- Paranoid Time 8/10, Double Nickels on the Dime 10/10
Mohinder
Moss Icon
Motion City Soundtrack
Mouthbreather
Naked Raygun- Throb Throb need to relisten/10
Nation of Ulysses- 13 Point Program to Destroy America 7/10
Neon Blonde
No Trend- Teenage Love 9/10, Too Many Humans 7/10
NoMeansNo- Wrong 7/10
Off Minor
Old Gray
One Last Wish
Orchid
Pageninetynine
Pianos Become the Teeth
Pissed Jeans- Shallow 7/10, Hope For Man 8/10, King of Jeans 8/10, Honeys 9/10
Pitchfork
Plaids
Please Inform the Captain This is a Hijack
Planes Mistaken for Stars
Poison the Well
Polar Bear Club
Polvo- Today's Active Lifestyles 9/10
Pop Unknown
Propagandhi- Potemkin City Limits 10/10
Q and Not U- No Kill No Beep Beep 8/10
Quicksand- S/T EP 7/10, Slip 8/10
Raein
Rain
Rapeman
Red Animal War
Refused- Everlasting EP 9/10, Songs to Fan the Flames of Discontent 8/10, The Shape of Punk to Come 10/10
Reggie and the Full Effect
Rites of Spring- Rites of Spring 7/10
Rival Schools
Rollins Band
Rx Bandits
Saccharine Trust- Paganicons 7/10
Saetia
Samiam
Saosin (Anthony Green era)
Scatter the Ashes
Scratch Acid
Scream
Seaweed- Despised 4/10, Weak need to relisten/10
Shellac- At Action Park 10/10, 1000 Hurts 9/10
Shiner
Shudder to Think
Sleeping Body
Slint- Tweez 6/10, Spiderland 10/10
Small Brown Bike- Our Own Wars 10/10
Some Girls
Sonic Youth (pre-Daydream Nation)
Soulside
Sparta- Wiretap Scars 8/10
Spirit of Versailles
Squirrel Bait
Static is a City- S/T EP need to relisten/10
Strike Anywhere- Change is a Sound 7/10
Strung Out (post-Twisted by Design)
Sunny Day Real Estate- Diary 8/10, LP2 need to relisten/10
Swing Kids- Swing Kids 7" 8/10
Taking Back Sunday
Tar
Teethforteeth- There is No Seperation 7/10
Texas is the Reason- Texas is the Reason EP 7/10
The Big Ups
The Birds are Spies, They Report to the Trees- S/T EP (2007) 6/10
The Blood Brothers- This Adultery is Ripe 7/10, March on Electric Children 10/10, Burn Piano Island Burn 10/10
The Bronx- The Bronx I 8/10, The Bronx III 7/10
The Dillinger Escape Plan (One of Us is the Killer)
The Dismemberment Plan
The Effigies
The Faith
The Hotelier- Home Like Noplace Is There 10/10
The Mars Volta- Tremulant EP 8/10, Deloused in the Comatorium 10/10
The Men- Immaculada 7/10, Leave Home 9/10, Open Your Heart 9/10
the Pine
The Plot to Blow Up the Eiffel Tower
The Promise Ring
The Shivering
The VSS
The World is a Beautiful Place and I am No Longer Afraid to Die- Whenever If Ever 9/10, Between Bodies 9/10
Thema Eleven
These Arms are Snakes- This is Meant to Hurt You 9/10, Oxeneers 8/10
Thrice- Identity Crisis 8/10, Illusion of Safety 7/10
Thursday- Full Collapse 9/10, War All the Time 6/10
Tiger's Jaw- Tiger's Jaw 7/10
Title Fight- The Last Thing You Forget 8/10, Shed 9/10, Floral Green 9/10, Hyperview 9/10, Split with Touche Amore 8/10
Touché Amoré- To The Beat of a Dead Horse 9/10, Parting the Sea Between and Me 8/10
Troubled Coast
United Nations
Unpersons- Split with Baroness 8/10
Unsane- Total Desctruction 6/10, Scattered Smothered and Covered 3/10
Unwound- Unwound (1995) 8/10, Leaves Turn Inside You 9/10
Vanilla
Whores- Ruiner 7/10, Clean 8/10
Wit's End
With Love
Wreck of Old '98
Yage
Yeast
Young Widows


Spoiler for Requested Albums:
Texas is the Reason- Do You Know Who You Are?
Rival Schools- United by Fate
Elliott- US Songs
Kill Holiday- Somewhere Between the Wrong Is Right
Lardo- Gunmetal Eyes
PITCTIAH- Complete Discog
Flourishing- The Sum of All Fossils
Sunny Day Real Estate- How It Feels To...


How I rate things (deleted as it's on my RYM now)

American Hardcore Journal Preface



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With each record I listen to by an artist in the list, I'll review it and put a link next to the artist. At some point I'll go ahead and put scores for the albums I've previously heard, but I won't review them unless requested to. Also feel free to request any albums for me to do and I'll place it in the list above. I also won't really get on with this until possibly this Summer, maybe sooner but not sure.

If there's any band I missed (that isn't Hot Topic post-hardcore) feel free to tell me and I'll add it. And yes, I'm aware that some of these bands are emo without much relation to post-hardcore, it's because I included second wave emo in the list for whatever reason and I don't want to remove it. Get Up Kid's Four Minute Mile definitely hearkens a little closer to hardcore than Jets to Brazil, but whatever. It's my list anyways.
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I love me a few post hardcore bands but never really explored the genre that much. Looking forward to this developing.
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Thanks bud. Pardon my asking, but how do you post a spoiler?
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I'll check that dictionary, but in the meantime I'm impressed - as is everyone else in the world - by your eloquence, obvious accomplishments and success, and the evidence of your blazingly high intelligence.
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He just doesn't have a mind so closed that it rivals Blockbuster.
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Thanks bud. Pardon my asking, but how do you post a spoiler?
Go to the advanced reply (not the quick post) and click the "Show/Hide" icon. In the dialogue box that pops up, write what people will see on the unopened spoiler. Then in between the brackets, post the content that you want hidden.

Spoiler for like this:
Hope that helps.
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Use the "show/hide" button next to "Wrap [youtube] tags around selected text."

I see you have them all listed ahead of time. Three of my favorite post-Hardcore bands didn't show up, something must be wrong with monitor or something. I'm subbing this, it looks super promising, and kinda looking for a decent journal to read. Go easy on Rites of Spring. I hate it when people rip on my favorite bands. I thought Minor Threat was Hardcore, but who am I to judge.
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It has Drive Like Jehu. That's all that counts.

I'm a little perplexed by the Coheed and Cambria and Mars Volta inclusion though.
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btw are (the) Melvins post-Hardcore or pre-Grunge?
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I'm a little perplexed by the Coheed and Cambria and Mars Volta inclusion though.
I would assume due to coheeds earlier work as well as Mars voltas post-hardcore precedings
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btw are (the) Melvins post-Hardcore or pre-Grunge?
A few of their songs sound very Fugazi, so I included them. Some of the bands on the list might have a few songs or a single album that could be considered post-hardcore (like Minor Threat with In My Eyes) but it's in the list regardless.

By any means, tell me if I've missed any bands and I'll add them in.

Coheed and Mars Volta definitely have some post-hardcore elements too. Coheed showed this over their whole career, while only Deloused and Tremulant are the only overtly post-hardcore releases in their catalog.
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"SMOKE CRACK MUDA****KKA"

I'll check that dictionary, but in the meantime I'm impressed - as is everyone else in the world - by your eloquence, obvious accomplishments and success, and the evidence of your blazingly high intelligence.
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He just doesn't have a mind so closed that it rivals Blockbuster.
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I own the mail

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American Hardcore (2007 Documentary Film)

I felt like it was only appropriate in a journal regarding post-hardcore to show my views on the original movement, and having watched this movie recently I feel it's a good place to start.

Punk, after it's mid 70's debut, had gone under a lot of changes by the 80's. Punk was being recognized by the public, through Ramones success and The Clash' experimental releases. Post-punk, while very artistic and envelope-pushing, just didn't bring punk fans the energy they strived for in the original movement. Three anerican bands rose up in 1979 to change that forever, putting the energy back in punk and changing the landscape forever. These three groups, Middle Class, Black Flag, and Bad Brains, are not only some of the most influentual bands in punk, but in music as a whole. Without them, there would be no Beastie Boys, Nirvana, Slint, Chili Peppers, Melvins, Sonic Youth, Dinosaur Jr, etc.

The ideals shown in this film reflect most punk's then and today. Social ideals didn't need to be followed to a tee, music didn't have to be safe or formulaic, fashion doesn't matter, rules don't matter, and life doesn't matter. These people chose what they were going to do with their lives and did it. They wanted to play a show? They set up and performed wherever they pleased. They set up their own tours and wrote their own songs. They made their own labels and built the packages by hand to distribute. It was the ultimate display of DIY.

The last statements of the film reported that punk was dead. How? After all they did and believed, how could they say that what they worked for had not been continued or gone unnoticed? Just as their formula was getting old, Rites of Spring, Saccharine Trust, and Husker Du realized that they couldn't go on making loud, 1 minute songs. They needed a new way to be artistic, and did this by creating their own formula.

One of my favorite things about post-hardcore is that there isn't any characteristics or formulas. Each band was influenced by hardcore punk, and that's it. It's barely even a genre in that sense, even more so than post-punk which at least has atmosphere in common from a band to another.

The hardcore movement certainly lives on today through a number of bands, but as the mid 90's came up it was clear that post-hardcore had systematically replaced it...



My first review will be the origins of it all, Saccharine Trust's Pæganicons
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"SMOKE CRACK MUDA****KKA"

I'll check that dictionary, but in the meantime I'm impressed - as is everyone else in the world - by your eloquence, obvious accomplishments and success, and the evidence of your blazingly high intelligence.
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He just doesn't have a mind so closed that it rivals Blockbuster.
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