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The Ramones 64,000 99.81%
The Clash 121 0.19%
The Sex Pistols suck (aka, never listened to either) 3 0.00%
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Old 01-29-2010, 04:20 PM   #281 (permalink)
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I though it was based on doing what you and only you felt like?
"Punk Rock means freedom" etc?
Freedom to say what you want about whats going on what's pissing you off...your thinking hippies.
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Otherwise you end up with mindless crap with no backbone. Don't get me wrong I'm guilty of listening to it. It's more of a general statement.

It's kinda what defines you as punk IMO. Something has too. I mean what some people consider punk now is unreal. It's how punk started and should be honored.

And no ..I don't think Ramones started it.
Okay, so you don't think the Ramones started it. Which of their predecessors do you feel were so big on making a statement that doing so should be considered a fundamental part of punk?
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Okay, so you don't think the Ramones started it. Which of their predecessors do you feel were so big on making a statement that doing so should be considered a fundamental part of punk?
Well.... The Pistols no doubt.
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I know the Ramones were there first in England....however...
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Well.... The Pistols no doubt.
The Sex Pistols were not a predecessor of the Ramones.

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I know the Ramones were there first in England....however...
The Ramones are not from England.
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I didn't see and still don't see a connection between their sound or image...Im guess Im trying to say The Pistols invented the
politics in it...am I making any sense?
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I didn't see and still don't see a connection between their sound or image...Im guess Im trying to say The Pistols invented the politics in it...am I making any sense?
I don't know if the Sex Pistols "invented the politics in it" (most likely not) but they weren't one of the first punk bands so it's pretty hard to claim that they have any kind of monopoly on defining the fundamentals of punk.
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What are you talking about?
I'm trying to say I don't know how much influence they had on the Pistols..that's all.
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I'm trying to say I don't know how much influence they had on the Pistols..that's all.
Here's your answer: they, along with several other NYC punk bands, had a lot of influence on the Sex Pistols.
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I don't know if the Sex Pistols "invented the politics in it" (most likely not) but they weren't one of the first punk bands so it's pretty hard to claim that they have any kind of monopoly on defining the fundamentals of punk.
People could argue about who started it all day I'm sure. The Saints ... Stranded ..etc..but that was one song. Velvet Underground ya ya..The Dolls.

However what I consider punk (which isn't saying anything) was them. Nothing before that to me was. I'm not in the majority I know. Some before them sounded more punk than others. Some I can't get how they get the label.

It felt like punk to me, sounded like punk, smelled like punk. Pere Ubu, Blondie, Television etc..sounded new to me...just not punk.
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