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View Poll Results: today's rap, 90's, or 80's rap?
today's rap 21 26.25%
90's rap/hip hop 47 58.75%
80's rap 8 10.00%
NONE DANG IT 4 5.00%
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Old 08-25-2010, 06:41 PM   #131 (permalink)
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Both. It was the most groundbreaking era for hip-hop albums. Look at any legitimate Top 10 Albums list for hip hop and that era dominates.
On digitaldreamdoors's list it looks like the 80s dominate.
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Old 08-25-2010, 06:55 PM   #132 (permalink)
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On digitaldreamdoors's list it looks like the 80s dominate.
That list is very 80's heavy. More so than others I've seen. Most lists have Public Enemy's - It Takes A...blah, blah, blah in the top 2. But normally Ready to Die, All Eyez on Me, and Illmatic make an appearance on the top 5.

It's all preference I suppose, that's just the period of hip-hop I enjoy the most.
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Old 08-27-2010, 10:22 AM   #133 (permalink)
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Choosing 80's hip hop on a best of list is equivelent to putting skiffle on a Rock List. Its like saying the Sexiest Man Alive this year was a fetus.

Its evident when you pick 80's rap and say its above all else, (on a list, not your preference) that you're a cred-hungry dip**** with your lips planted firmly on your own colon.

Theres a reason KC & The Sunshine band never make lists, and neither should much of raps embriotic phase. It is always going to be wildly apparent you're going for the "how do you not know this ****" vote, as if 16 year olds readily listen to Kool Herc.

This, of course, is the issue with musical critique globally. For some reason we've put a false value behind the currency of "first;" I heard it first, I was the first one who mentioned..., and they were the first ones to use that sound. But for the sames reasons we don't drive model T's or use Apple II's, so should we not use early Rap as some form 2001-Monolith that delivered us from the assumed cave-dwelling that we were relegated to pre-rap.

Anyone who uses anything as a barometer above quality has an agenda. They are carving out their own niche by creating their own economy. I should hope, especially here at musicbanter, we're trading on a stronger unit than the bull**** that is "first."
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Old 08-27-2010, 09:48 PM   #134 (permalink)
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Calm down, dude.
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Old 08-27-2010, 10:06 PM   #135 (permalink)
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Calm down, dude.
That's actually pretty mild for Big3.
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Old 09-05-2010, 12:31 PM   #136 (permalink)
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Mild or not, I can still see the point, and i agree fullheartedly (somehow this word is wrong). If the innovators are less talented than the newer generations, then they shouldn't get the credit of being the best just for being the original. They should get thanks for their pioneering, but that doesn't automatically give them entitlement to being the best there is.

However, if you do find the earlier forms to be better just because you find more talent/heart/whatever in them, then i say the argument doesn't really apply.
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wholeheartedly, maybe?

Don't be ridiculous, Big3 or Surell. You guys are implying that pioneering a particular sonic doesn't take much creativity or talent.

Don't think I'm some pioneer whore, either. I can accept when someone else perfects someone else's creation, but pioneers instantly get a fuckload of credit.
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Old 09-21-2010, 04:12 PM   #138 (permalink)
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I chose 80s rap but it actually hinges between 80s and 90s rap/hiphop because i think there was a real point making these music. Now it's "look at me i've got a gun, hookers, millions of cash" music. The same music over, over and over again. I hate the state of todays hiphop.
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Old 09-21-2010, 06:27 PM   #139 (permalink)
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90s-today. cant say i was a fan of most 80s rap, but there were a couple songs that werent too bad
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Old 09-21-2010, 06:41 PM   #140 (permalink)
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I chose 80s rap but it actually hinges between 80s and 90s rap/hiphop because i think there was a real point making these music. Now it's "look at me i've got a gun, hookers, millions of cash" music. The same music over, over and over again. I hate the state of todays hiphop.
That's pretty much always been around in hip hop.
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