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Old 06-22-2011, 03:07 PM   #41 (permalink)
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They "sound alike" in the same way that all rappers "sound alike," if that's what you're getting at. I obviously have a functioning brain and ears, no need to make insinuating insults. They rap about different topics, their voices sound nothing alike, and their timing is different. What is your justification for their likeness? That they're both black rappers?
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I'm not insinuating insults because it boggles my mind that you don't hear the similarities.

Drake
"Love your sushi rolls Hotter then wasabi I race for your love Shake-n-bake Ricky bobby"

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"I know the game is crazy its more crazy than its ever been I'm married to that crazy b**** call me Kevin Federline""

It's the same formulaic punchlines. They do not rap about different content and the timing varies song to song for both artist,neither has consistent timing or anything.

You really think Drake rapping about wanting to **** Nicki Minajs thick ass isn't a media ploy? This dude got casted on degrassi because he is the perfect archetype to peddle bs to stupid kids
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Old 06-22-2011, 03:08 PM   #42 (permalink)
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He annunciates every ****ing syllable so much. That's just a little personal pet peeve tho lol.

A lot of his music seems to be car focused, or at least labeled as such-pop the trunk, daddy's lambo, trunk muzic, box chevy. So far he has shown a knack for making gucci-inspired trunk related white trash music, but not much else.

Having Drama (fantasy factory) produce seemed like the perfect move to cement his skater-boi fanbase.Speaking of which, producing can't be too hard these days if that ****er can do it..

Im going to throw the race card into the mix and say if this guy was black he would go completely unnoticed. The monolithic lex luger/gucci bass heavy sound is something hundreds of new artists use every month.

Honestly though, I don't out right hate this guy and would say he has promise if he wasn't already 30-something years old..
With the help of slim shady he will make music everybody except me will love.
I think the car theme was because the name of the album was Trunk Muzik. Did you stop to think about that? he has some other tracks that aren't car related. I'm pretty sure his next album isn't going to have mostly car related tracks it's not just something he does.

I disagree with you on the whole race card thing as well. You didn't even touch on his rapping speed but I know that you aren't really impressed with that so I guess you didn't mention it. I think that is also part of the reason that he's getting the attention that he is atm. It was a great idea to include him in WorldWide Choppers track.

lol no comment on the ageist remarks.

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more cohesive and overall more interesting to me song and production wise. i liked the first for it's spacey feel, but this one has more to offer with that. as for lyrics, Cudi's always been a meh kind of rapper.
Okay, I understand that. I just feel that there are more solid tracks on the first album and he could have made plenty more singles from that album that would get constant radio play.

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but to say they sound "absolutely nothing alike" is something i think most drake fans will even disagree with.
I like Drake and will listen to him from time to time but I know that he sounds similar to Wayne. The major difference is that Drake has the whole sing songy thing going for similar to Kid Cudi where he can sing and his rapping "skills" are so so.
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Old 06-22-2011, 03:16 PM   #43 (permalink)
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I'm not insinuating insults because it boggles my mind that you don't hear the similarities.

Drake
"Love your sushi rolls Hotter then wasabi I race for your love Shake-n-bake Ricky bobby"

Lil Wayne
"I know the game is crazy its more crazy than its ever been I'm married to that crazy b**** call me Kevin Federline""

It's the same formulaic punchlines. They do not rap about different content and the timing varies song to song for both artist,neither has consistent timing or anything.
All rappers use different timing and use formulas to create punchlines, metaphors and similies in their raps. You may as well be saying that all rappers sound alike, or that all rappers suck.

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You really think Drake rapping about wanting to **** Nicki Minajs thick ass isn't a media ploy? This dude got casted on degrassi because he is the perfect archetype to peddle bs to stupid kids
Again, how he is portrayed to the public or his target demographic still has nothing to do with his actual talent, only the way that his talent is perceived by certain people. People who can listen to music and judge it on its merit (like most of us on here) can see it for what it is. If you knew nothing about Drake's past and heard one of his songs out of the blue, you would still hate it. You wouldn't say "I don't like his music, it sounds like somthing that an ex-child star would put out."
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All rappers use different timing and use formulas to create punchlines, metaphors and similies in their raps. You may as well be saying that all rappers sound alike, or that all rappers suck.
Not all rappers use the same generic formula(lets call it "YMCM^2011") for their punchlines over and over and over and over

You may not have a great memory, but their was a time when not every rap line went "matious, muthu ****ing one man band/ flow so wet/kool aid man!"

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Again, how he is portrayed to the public or his target demographic still has nothing to do with his actual talent, only the way that his talent is perceived by certain people. People who can listen to music and judge it on its merit (like most of us on here) can see it for what it is. If you knew nothing about Drake's past and heard one of his songs out of the blue, you would still hate it. You wouldn't say "I don't like his music, it sounds like somthing that an ex-child star would put out."
When your a pop artist, how you are perceived is everything. He has to make sure his sound is in line with the latest trends. He isn't making music to be judged on, he is making music that is consumable and universal,and following in the foot steps of other successful artists is a guaranteed way of doing that.

But w/e this is my thread **** drake case closed
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Old 06-22-2011, 03:34 PM   #45 (permalink)
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But w/e this is my thread **** drake case closed
yeah I was going to bring the topic back to that same thing.

It's pretty much Matious thread so let him voice his opinions. you can comment on them if you disagree but you aren't going to change his mind. He doesn't like an artist for whatever his reasons are then that's it. Not much left to say.


Moving right along Big Sean and Jadakiss.

I'm really liking Big Sean I wonder why you don't like him and he hasn't released his debut album yet lol.
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They "sound alike" in the same way that all rappers "sound alike," if that's what you're getting at. I obviously have a functioning brain and ears, no need to make insinuating insults. They rap about different topics, their voices sound nothing alike and their timing is different. What is your justification for their likeness? That they're both black rappers, or that they both suck in your opinion?


I don't like Drake either, but his career as an actor has nothing to do with it. It may have opened more doors for him, but he would still be a sh*tty rapper either way.
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I think the car theme was because the name of the album was Trunk Muzik. Did you stop to think about that? he has some other tracks that aren't car related. I'm pretty sure his next album isn't going to have mostly car related tracks it's not just something he does.

I disagree with you on the whole race card thing as well. You didn't even touch on his rapping speed but I know that you aren't really impressed with that so I guess you didn't mention it. I think that is also part of the reason that he's getting the attention that he is atm. It was a great idea to include him in WorldWide Choppers track.

lol no comment on the ageist remarks.
tbh, his speed is not really all that impressive to me, Busta Rhymes and even Chris Brown in "Look at Me Now" >>> most of Yela's rhymes. that and he doesn't keep up that speed for long. i get if a rapper doesn't want to or can't keep it up for an entire song, but most of the time he can't even go half a verse without slowing down.

i also agree with the enunciation thing he does, matious. listening to him for long sounds like daggers hitting my ears with every word that he just HAS to pronounce fully.
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But w/e this is my thread **** drake case closed
Agreed, f*ck him and the Degrassi wheelchair he rolled in on.
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I think the thing with drake's acting career is he doesn't have the same background as the other guys, therefore he can't relate and be real. Thus, he is fake.
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I think the thing with drake's acting career is he doesn't have the same background as the other guys, therefore he can't relate and be real. Thus, he is fake.
True, but I'm sure he got to tap some of that hot teen ass on the Degrassi set.
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I think the thing with drake's acting career is he doesn't have the same background as the other guys, therefore he can't relate and be real. Thus, he is fake.
I don't know how much of Drake that you have listened to but on his album he doesn't pretend to be hood or street or anything along those lines. He raps about what he knows so I don't get that whole "oh he's fake and doesn't deserve to be a rapper" feel that you are talking about.
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