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Dr_Rez 11-01-2007 09:32 PM
Exodizer, every post you have had on this forum everyone has disagreed with you, or you have been 100% wrong and gotten in a fight with someone. Its rather amusing.

Necromancer 11-01-2007 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Gentleman Johnny (Post 411249)
Blues pioneers of the early 20's popularized the ultra simple music, actually.
That is the truth, And nothing but the truth, 'G/J'. The 50s era did the same, And Nirvana did the same thing in the 90s. (Great Post)! Best Guitar-Jimmy Hendrix.

ThunderHORSE 11-02-2007 02:30 AM
I voted for Jari Mäenpäa, because I freakin' adore Wintersun and Ensiferum.

anticipation 11-02-2007 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by RezZ (Post 411342)
Exodizer, every post you have had on this forum everyone has disagreed with you, or you have been 100% wrong and gotten in a fight with someone. Its reminds me of my start here.
yeah, it reminds me of that too.

Dr_Rez 11-02-2007 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Gentleman Johnny (Post 411446)
yeah, it reminds me of that too.
Dude, dont change someones quote then post it as something they said. Dont be an *******.

Inuzuka Skysword 11-02-2007 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by RezZ (Post 411448)
Dude, dont change someones quote then post it as something they said. Dont be an *******.
I think it is pretty funny.

Necromancer 11-02-2007 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by MURDER JUNKIE (Post 411022)
The correct answer is Prince
No doubt! Prince is one of the most talented musicians of all, I do not remember exactly how many instruments he has mastered. It seems that it was around 13 or so? Let alone he is the producer for his own music & other artist as well. I always think of Stevie Wonder, when relating to Prince for some reason?

Exodizer 11-03-2007 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Gentleman Johnny (Post 411249)
Blues pioneers of the early 20's popularized the ultra simple music, actually.
They spawned more complicated music. Niravana spawned simplier music. Blues spawned Jazz which is way more complicated. Early rock and roll started out simple, but evloved into Prog and other more complicated Music. Nirvana was simple and music got simplier (well you can't really unless you went back to the orginal Gegorian Chants). Virtually the same Chord Progression with simple melodies, simple rhythm and lyrics that make little to no sense. As for you Rez have you ever played an instrument? Becuase you said you wanted to take up guitar and if you haven't as for all of you what would you know about the greatist guitarist if you don't play it or a similar instrument. Most people I know take Kurt to be one of the worst guitarists of all time, and in fact if you look at comments on the Rolling Stones list of guitarists if it wasn't about slash not being on the list it was about Kurt Cobain being on the list. As for ProggyMan saying Jimi Hendrix wrote more relative to his material. One word Mozart. And if you mean guitarists Paganini invented all of our techniques. Hammerons and Pulloffs, Tapping, sweeping arppegios. You name it and you can trace it back to Steve Hackett who got it from paganini.

Urban Hat€monger ? 11-03-2007 08:20 AM
Funny , I listen to plenty of new music & I don't hear Nirvana in any of it.
All Nirvana influenced was a few other grunge bands who spilt up in the 90s.
Where are all these simpler bands you keep on about?

Dr_Rez 11-03-2007 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Exodizer (Post 411522)
As for you Rez have you ever played an instrument? Becuase you said you wanted to take up guitar and if you haven't as for all of you what would you know about the greatist guitarist if you don't play it or a similar instrument.
Yes, i have played the drums for 8 years and am a teacher at a drum store. Also have been doing keyboard for a few years now.

Urban Hat€monger ? 11-03-2007 09:17 AM
Not classically trained Rezz?

YOU FAIL !!!!!!! ;)

Dr_Rez 11-03-2007 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 411546)
Not classically trained Rezz?

YOU FAIL !!!!!!! ;)
Yea dude, i must suck.

ProggyMan 11-03-2007 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Exodizer (Post 411522)
They spawned more complicated music. Niravana spawned simplier music. Blues spawned Jazz which is way more complicated. Early rock and roll started out simple, but evloved into Prog and other more complicated Music. Nirvana was simple and music got simplier (well you can't really unless you went back to the orginal Gegorian Chants). Virtually the same Chord Progression with simple melodies, simple rhythm and lyrics that make little back no sense. As for you Rez have you ever played an instrument? Becuase you said you wanted to take up guitar and if you haven't as for all of you what would you know about the greatist guitarist if you don't play it or a similar instrument. Most people I know take Kurt to be one of the worst guitarists of all time, and in fact if you look at comments on the Rolling Stones list of guitarists if it wasn't about slash not being on the list it was about Kurt Cobain being on the list. As for ProggyMan saying Jimi Hendrix wrote more relative to his material. One word Mozart. And if you mean guitarists Paganini invented all of our techniques. Hammerons and Pulloffs, Tapping, sweeping arppegios. You name it and you can trace it back to Steve Hackett who got it from paganini.
I can trace rhythm back to cavemen.:rolleyes:

metalraid 11-06-2007 10:36 AM
:bowdown: Damn you forgot Jeff Waters, he's the one who practically made thrash metal

Voice_of_the_Soul12,13,01 11-06-2007 10:39 AM
Why the hell is Chuck Schuldiner not on this poll?! Blasphemy!


So yeah, I chose other.

Wayfarer 11-06-2007 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by metalraid (Post 412075)
:bowdown: Damn you forgot Jeff Waters, he's the one who practically made thrash metal
...Annihilator didn't even form until 1984.

Voice_of_the_Soul12,13,01 11-06-2007 12:54 PM
Everyone knows Chuck Norris invented thrash. :bonkhead:

Necromancer 11-07-2007 09:15 PM
I would say, That 'Kurt Cobain' is the greatest guitarist for, Putting a whole lot of power, distortion, effects, etc. Nothing, no less than (NOISE). (LOUD NOISE), Into some type of order of consistancency, in the matter of playing original music. His guitar leads, were as awkward & confusing, as Cobain was himself. Not to mention, the best of drugs to help, to whatever he was trying to say? I would of liked, to jam & party with this dude (Cobain). Just remember, keep it simple. And (Noise! Is music. / (J. Hendrix) Would be my first pick. Was the best ever, able to put his heart & soul into his guitar (Himself), He was the guitar. Even without all the technology, compared as today. Just imagine what , he could of done, had he lived. / Stevie Ray Vaughn - Would be my 2nd. pick. because he is influenced by Hendrix, And because he is Stevie Ray Vaughn. Sounds like he is playing two guitars at the same time, with his rythms & leads. Outstanding, when playing guitar. (SRV).

anticipation 11-07-2007 09:19 PM
i cannot understand any of your posts.




srsly, did you fail first grade english?

redelfshotthepotion 11-08-2007 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Uke (Post 132763)
i think the greatest would be either

Jimi Hendrix

or

Kurt Cobain

:cool:

I like Kurt, Nirvana has greatly influenced me. But he should not be on this list.

Necromancer 11-09-2007 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by redelfshotthepotion (Post 412716)
I like Kurt, Nirvana has greatly influenced me. But he should not be on this list.
Yes, Cobain is the best. At his style, fame, death, etc. There is no best, (in my opinion). Only the best of the best, and the best at they're style of music. A personal favorite, one of our influences, etc., is everyone's Best, therefore, who is the best?

Dr_Rez 11-09-2007 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by VocalsBass (Post 412910)
Yes, Cobain is the best. At his style, fame, death, etc. There is no best, (in my opinion). Only the best of the best, and the best at they're style of music. A personal favorite, is everyone's Best, therefore, who is the best?
Now that i think of it tho, i think the best is def possible to find. The best would be whoever did the most for guitar, and was the most inventive/revolutionary. In my opinion Hendrix left the biggest mark on the guitar, and no one has really come close to that. (not saying there arnt people who are better, just not as important to the instrument)

Necromancer 11-09-2007 02:30 PM
I agree with you completly RezZ. There is just as much, of everything to consider, when getting to the true answer's concerning music, more than other subjects of life period. The great thing about music. Is there may never, be an answer that can be truely provided. But we are all...., on the same page.

RighteousBrian 11-10-2007 11:07 PM
How in the world could you start a thread about the greatest guitarists and then mention kurt cobain? He plays the same 4 chords in like every nirvana song.

Necromancer 11-11-2007 01:22 AM
Simplicity is one of the major rules. Just as important as being technical, at any level of talent, for that matter, as a musician. Opinions & personal views, etc, Are just as important also. To songwriters, producers.The music industry altogether.To succeed as an artist, One must possess the talent & mature always. As a musician/Artist. Within any era of the music industry past & present. (keep an open mind/be versatile).

Dr_Rez 11-11-2007 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by VocalsBass (Post 413325)
Simplicity is one of the major rules. Just as important as being technical, at any level of talent, for that matter, as a musician. Opinions & personal views, etc, Are just as important also. To songwriters, producers.The music industry altogether.To succeed as an artist, One must possess the talent & mature always. As a musician/Artist. Within any era of the music industry past & present. (keep an open mind/be versatile).
^ = Vocals Owning Brian :yeah:

Wayfarer 11-11-2007 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by RighteousBrian (Post 413249)
How in the world could you start a thread about the greatest guitarists and then mention kurt cobain? He plays the same 4 chords in like every nirvana song.
Perhaps because his four-chord songs had a bigger impact than any song Yngwie Malmsteen's ever written using the entire fretboard.

Dr_Rez 11-11-2007 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Wayfarer (Post 413438)
Perhaps because his four-chord songs had a bigger impact than any song Yngwie Malmsteen's ever written using the entire fretboard.
Well put mr Farer

harvey96 11-12-2007 08:43 AM
I got one free ebook called "History Of The Guitar". Anyone interested?:offtopic:

Dr_Rez 11-12-2007 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by harvey96 (Post 413659)
I got one free ebook called "History Of The Guitar". Anyone interested?:offtopic:
Sure, sounds cool

guitarherowaka 11-12-2007 11:33 AM
I like Duane Allman myself, who isn't on the poll either...

Seltzer 11-12-2007 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by guitarherowaka (Post 413689)
I like Duane Allman myself, who isn't on the poll either...
And definitely should be.

N*S*G 11-12-2007 03:30 PM
Technical ability is useless, but I voted Matt Bellamy.

Seltzer 11-12-2007 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by N*S*G (Post 413778)
Technical ability is useless, but I voted Matt Bellamy.
Technical ability isn't useless. What's useless is a guitarist who thinks he's the greatest solely because of his technical ability.

When you think about it, technical ability limits what you can possibly play. You might be able to think of a great melody in your head, but unless you can actually play it, you have a problem.

Of course, some people will never be limited by technical ability because what they want to play isn't difficult. In which case, technicality isn't as relevant to their playing style. But either way, technicality isn't useless. It's just less important for some people.

N*S*G 11-12-2007 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Seltzer (Post 413800)
Technical ability isn't useless. What's useless is a guitarist who thinks he's the greatest solely because of his technical ability.

When you think about it, technical ability limits what you can possibly play. You might be able to think of a great melody in your head, but unless you can actually play it, you have a problem.

Of course, some people will never be limited by technical ability because what they want to play isn't difficult. In which case, technicality isn't as relevant to their playing style. But either way, technicality isn't useless. It's just less important for some people.
Meh. If a guitarist can get the same feeling across with a simple riff, rather than a grandiose solo, the minimalist wins.

N*S*G 11-12-2007 04:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Seltzer (Post 413800)
Technical ability isn't useless. What's useless is a guitarist who thinks he's the greatest solely because of his technical ability.

When you think about it, technical ability limits what you can possibly play. You might be able to think of a great melody in your head, but unless you can actually play it, you have a problem.

Of course, some people will never be limited by technical ability because what they want to play isn't difficult. In which case, technicality isn't as relevant to their playing style. But either way, technicality isn't useless. It's just less important for some people.
Meh. If a guitarist can get the same feeling across with a simple riff, rather than a grandiose solo, the minimalist wins.

But, yeah what you said was what I meant.

joyboyo53 11-12-2007 05:54 PM
i had to choose one so hailing from texas i gave it up to SRV. it was really a 3 way tie between SRV, Jimi Hendrix, and Satriani in my books. Jimmy Page being in the top 10 of course along with BB King and Eric Clapton.

harvey96 11-14-2007 09:00 AM
But I don't know where to locate your email add?

Areknore 11-15-2007 06:42 AM
Jimi Hendrix. No matter how cliche, Hendrix stands in a league of his own.

littleknowitall 11-15-2007 10:53 AM
Seriously, unless it's already been said, with regards to Kurt kobain being in a poll for greatest technical guitarist ever....eh??? ok, ok, i mean i'm sure he had his moments and was priobably a pretty ok guitarists but really, his riffs weren't that great and he wasn't that technical. to put him in competition on these basis with people like zappa and jeff beck is absurd isn't it?


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