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12-18-2008, 08:12 PM
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Ba and Be.
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Most famous may have been more apt. I can remember a multitude of AC/DC trax. Van halen -i can't remember any.
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12-19-2008, 03:44 AM
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Later on...
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Just to get off the EVH vs ACDC track
Jimmy Page was a horribly sloppy guitarist who wrote a couple of good riffs and couldn't keep his **** together live. Jeff Beck and Brian May far outclass him in all categories barring bull**** ones such as sales et al.
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12-19-2008, 03:49 AM
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I really don't see how sales is an intrinsically valid criterion for evaluating guitarists. Anyway, while this list is generic and one dimensional, it's also nothing I didn't expect. Well ok, I'll admit I wasn't expecting to see the Disturbed guitarist in any top 100 list.
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12-19-2008, 03:58 AM
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Dr. Prunk
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What you think of him or the guitarists he influenced means absolutely nothing, because it's undeniable that EVH was one of the most original and influencial guitar players of all time. The fact that you go as far as to call him unoriginal clarifies that you don't know what you're talking about, 1978 he was the only guitarist of his kind. You can wiki some ridiculously obscure examples of other guitarists playing as fast as he did or doing two hand tapping, but he was the first to combine the two and spawn a whole generation of guitarists, as loathesome as they may be, his impact is unrivaled by no one but Hendrix. The only other guitarist I can think of who used two handed tapping before EVH btw, is Steve Hackett, though he used it in a completely different way. Quote:
Page wasn't a great guitarist despite the fact that he was sloppy. It was a big part of his appeal, same with Hendrix, he played like he just didn't give a f*ck, isn't this what all the music snobs say rock n roll "should" be when they write off progressive rock or any band with a great amount of technical know how? Page sucks because he's sloppy, EVH sucks because he's technical, make up your damn mind.
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12-19-2008, 04:19 AM
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Dr. Prunk
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Thats like saying, well Paul McCartney must not be talented or influencial in anyway because you know, he sucks without the other guys. With any band, chemestry is important, if you think DLR is the only reason Van Halen found success, then you're obviously crazy. DLR's vocals did give Van Halen a distinct sound though which was lost when they got Sammy. But it goes without saying that what made Van Halen get peoples attention was the way EVH played, in 1978 every rock band had bluesy guitarists that were indistinguishable from another. EVH did something entirely different and thus inspired tons of musicians as a result, and yet, he's unoriginal and had no impact, based of course, on absolutely nothing. Hilarious. And no, I don't care about what you think about most of the guitarists he influenced, since I already know, and in fact, I dislike 90% of all the guitarists in the world who owe their existance to Eddie. But it dosen't change the fact that he inspired people, which as a music lover I have to respect. If I were to go by an objective criteria I'd have to say that EVH is at least in the top 3 great guitarists of all time.
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12-19-2008, 04:20 AM
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Have you even heard heartbreaker? That's enough to put him down at about 200 at least.
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12-19-2008, 04:30 AM
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Dr. Prunk
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Have you heard punk rock music as a whole?
Isn't that Syd Barrett in your avatar? Because he was WAY WAY WAAAAAAAAAY sloppier than Page. I mean Jesus Christ, just listen Take Up Thy Stethoscope and Walk, don't bullsh*t me about sloppy guitarists, this is a man you and your cronnies are calling the greatest f*cking genius in music history, and at the same time you want to call one of the most influencial guitarists of all time mediocre because he was sloppy on some performances? Does any Led Zeppelin fan ever acknowledge Heartbreaker as one of Page's best works? NO. Don't come back to me until you can play Since I've Been Loving You flawlessly.
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