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So I've been thinking about picking up some more ACDC. I only have If You Want Blood and Back In Black, what else is definitely worth getting. Also what year remaster sounds the best, 1990, 1994, or 2003? 1994 remasters look to be the cheapest in general.

Also, do you guys think anything by Korn is worth buying?

(Yes, I've been feeling like some simple rock lately. :p:)

If this was 1994, I would say it is worth buying Korn... however it is 2011 and i advise people to just skip them.

Beavis summed up my feelings on Korn perfectly in this video:

Their self titled debut and Follow the Leader are definitely worth it. I liked Untouchables as well but ummm you should just download that one.

Life Is Peachy and Issues I should avoid though?

How about ACDC that is worth buying? I've heard many say all Bon Scott era ACDC is worth buying.

Not all the Bon Scott era is essential and apart from the live album get "Let There Be Rock" and "Highway to Hell" and possibly "Powerage" though its not essential.

The Korn debut is a must and a classic album. The other essential Korn album is "Follow the Leader"

Life is Peachy and Issues are okay but there are only a few singles that I like from each one of them.

I wouldn't recommend buying those two albums just download it and see if you like them first

As far as AC/DC to add to Unknown's list toss Back in Black in there as well.
I know it doesn't include Bon Scott but it's still worth it.

You're talking about the two disc live album right? What about Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap, is that any good? What about High Voltage?

Also, what year remasters sounds best? Or does it not really matter?

What album is better Korn or Follow The Leader?

Just reposting it since it got skipped over last time. People were busy helping others. :)

High Voltage and Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap are very average and only for fans and if you`re on a budget I wouldn`t bother.

I wouldn`t pay any extra for AC/DC remasters just look for the best price.

Korn is better than Follow the Leader if you have to choose just one.

Alright, thanks! Judging from the tracklist on Dirty Deeds, I still might get it. :p:

So I guess I'll shoot for whatever is cheapest, which will be 1990 or 1994.

Alright, so what are some modern rock/metal, nu metal, or hair metal albums you guys would recommend?

( I own nearly nothing from these genres)

I do not know, when talking nu-metal, you get yourself into hot water with many metal fan...

the only album I actually still find to be amazing out of all that stuff is "White Pony" by Deftones. There are a few others, but I think the excellent music is ruined by awful lyrics and vocals a lot, such as "L.D. 50" by Mudvayne. It is not really a scene that I think has a lot of long term impact and wears thin very quickly.

To me, it is better to just go with the Alternative Metal scene before it... and just go out and buy "Meantime" by Helmet. Stuff like that is more to my liking.

Hair Metal, I am not a fan of, can't recommend anything there.

Metal is just such a broad genre. You have the sub-genres of, and every sub-genre has its different sub-genres attached to them as well... it just gets so confusing. For me, I guess I like metal more on the "extreme" side, so my knowledge of stuff like nu-metal and all that is very slim. I know some from having friends into it when it was at the peak of popularity and hearing it... I even got into it... but the only album I find I can still listen to now is "White Pony", hence why I recommend that one... but I am guessing you already know that one, so I was no help at all, haha!

Evan's Blue - The Melody and The Energetic Nature of Volume

The Exies - Head for the Door

Guano Apes - Proud Like a God

Shinedown - Leave a Whisper

nu-metal:-

Slipknot - Iowa, Vol.3 : The Subliminal Verses
Linkin Park - Hybrid Theory
Limp Bizkit - Significant Other

hair metal:-

Skid Row - Slave to the Grind
Enuff Z'Nuff - Enuff Z'Nuff, Strength

I never thought Id see the day someone recommended me LB.

Anyway, I'll have to check out Skid Row and EZN.

Of course, I'll check it out after I get on all the other recommendations you guys have given me. :)

The best stuff from a poor metal genre, which also happens to come from the best known bands. As said above alternative metal is far more rewarding.

Korn- Korn, Follow the Leader
Deftones- Adrenaline, Around the Fur
Limp Bizkit- Three Dollar Bills Yall$
Slipknot- Slipknot, Iowa
Papa Roach- Infest (basic but a good fun listen)
Saliva- Every Six Seconds (again a fun listen)

Yeah, get Helmet. They weren't bad at all.

They are almost all bad now, last few albums have been dreadful. But when they were on top of their game they were great. "Strap It On" is an under appreciated album, post-hardcore/noise rock... which featured one of the best songs in that style "Sinatra", after that album would mark their shift to the Alternative Metal scene with "Meantime" and "Betty".. though they still did retain some traces of noise rock on those as well. Those 3 albums are their essentials, with "Aftertaste" being decent, but not as great as first 3... would say that is more a fans album, not something the newcomer should start with.

Does anyone happen to know a site that sells used CD's and combines shipping?

I've been listening to the Doors LA Woman alot lately. Does anyone know any other albums where the singer has that tired, whiskey laden voice?

It came with both age and whisky drinking, his earlier singing has more clarity. Its actually great to see the evolution of his voice from 67 to 71. The earlier stuff falls into the dark psychedelic and acid rock category despite the odd blues influenced songs.

Do you know any other albums (not Doors) where the singer has a similar voice?

Limp Bizkit actually used to be pretty innovative and sounded good

before they "dumbed down" for a bigger audience

There is nobody really its too unique. Not even Van Morrison is that similiar and he was a big influence on Jim Morrison. Maybe you need to look at some baritone style singers or black blues singers to find some type of comparison.

Remember nobody from that time period was doing music like the Doors, of the other bands, only groups like the Velvet Underground were putting out similiar darker themed music, as were bands like the Stooges etc but none of these sounded anything like the Doors.

You need to listen to their first three albums, because that is where the Doors legend was born.

I can't think of anyone more tired and whiskey laden than Phil Anselmo on the highly entertaining double cd and dvd set, "Diary of a Mad Band". The first live audio disk is spot on stoner metal w/ Phil pushing the usual rough edge. The 2nd live disc he's pretty much drunk out of his mind on Jack, and gives some of the worst vocals I've ever heard. Completely tuneless and whiskey impaired. Still, you can rip a cd with 70 mins. of good quality live Down. Then there's the live DVD where's he's much better, plus you get to see a crack band crank out a bunch of great NOLA tunes. You might as well just check out NOLA, but Anselmo wasn't as tired or whiskey laden, so I don't know how much interest you'd have in that.

I'm burnt out on Pantera man.

Anyway, I have a few questions.

1. Been thinking about getting some "Super Furry Animals" (thanks to Urban) and saw this.

Amazon.com: Fuzzy Logic/Radiator: Super Furry Animals: Music

Should I get this or the normal edition of Radiator? Do these type of things come with both liner notes? (This is actually cheaper than both of them seperately)

2. Duga has recommended the Blur discography to me. Would it be worth it to get "13," "Parklife," "Blur" and "The Great Escape" for 13 dollars?

3. Are any of the following bands discographies worth buying? Also, could you guys recommend me any discographies that would be relatively cheap to purchase used on Amazon? (Around 6 - 10 albums is ideal)
AC/DC (just the Bon Scott stuff or Johnson too?)
Led Zeppelin
White Stripes
Velvet Underground
Pixies

4. I have thought about going down Urban's 100 list and buying everything he has there starting from his favorite album. Do you think this is a good idea? Should I explore an artists discography if I like the album or should I try to stay strictly to his list?

I love you guys. :p:

Do Both.

How is that possible? :p:

One part of me says "don't buy stuff like AC/DC and Kiss, it's too simple and there is so much better music you could be listening to. If you're going to listen to boring rock music, at least make it stuff that matters like The Who and Zeppelin" while the other part of me says "What's wrong with some good fun rock n roll? You know you'll like it, even if it isn't a step in your musical progression. Just buy it."

ARGHH! Which side do I listen to? Even though I have about 200 bucks to spend on music right now, I don't know what to do! :banghead:

do you not have a second hand music store where you live? like a trade shop? You would probably be better off spending money in a place like that.

No, the closest store like that is 3 hours away.

you can also look here, sometimes you can find good deals: Used CDs & Used DVDs with FREE SHIPPING from The CD Exchange: Buy, Sell & Trade

Unfortunately their selection seems kinda limited. :(

So what is your opinion on my little "argument" with myself a couple posts up? Which side should I listen to?

only as limited as ones own knowledge of music. haha.. but yeah, if you know not what you are looking for, it is limited.

Nothing wrong with liking stuff like AC/DC (the keyboard really needs a lightning bolt button, it never seems right typing it out like that!)... or KISS. You are right, it may be mindless music in some regards, but it is just kinda fun stuff.... not like people should send their whole life being serious and listening to "serious music" from "serious bands" and "serious singers" blah blah blah.....

Just like and accept the things you like, and listen to whatever you like. It may be simple to one person, but all that matters is that you like it. Sure one day you may outgrow it or get bored with it... hell, I think of stuff I listened to when i was say 16 and think to myself... wow, this really sucks now that i sit down and listen to it... just the same as i am willing to bet when i am 36 i will look at some of the stuff i listen to now and say the same.

But every now and then i will still listen to it for the sake of nostalgia and to remind myself where i came from... it always still has a soft spot for me in one way or another.

Don't worry about what others say, like and accept whatever you like... if they do not like it, they do not have to llisten to it.

If you wanna listen to AC/DC (once again, i want a lightning bolt!) or KISS go for it. We all have different tastes, that is what makes us unique, no such thing as something everyone can agree on.

You will have plenty of time to listen to "serious" music later when you start getting old and boring, haha... but dont be afraid to have some fun and just rock out every now an then as well.

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well said

Some close minded elitists around here need to read this and understand that other people have different tastes and listen to whatever they like to and that doesn't make their taste any better or worse than your own it's just different.

nothing wrong with KISS at all

they are in the top 10 rock acts, I say

Thanks... and hey, I am not going to sit here and say I can not be that close minded elitest myself at times... I can be. However, I try and not think popular opinion is the be all end all of it.... I like debate, I always have.. and I am always willing to hear peoples side to it as well... people confuse debating and arguing a lot of time the time... and hey, nothing wrong with being opinionated... I think if somebody accept themselves and accepts what they love, they can debate it without just arguing it... you get the people who as soon as you speak badly on something they like, they just call you names and get immature and put you down.

I like to examine music, I like to dissect things, and sometimes that leads me to be close minded, but I try not to. I think confucious said it best when he said: "Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance."

But in the end, I speak to my opinions on the music in question, and not on the person listening to it. One more quote, kinda says the same, by George Carlin: "I love and treasure individuals as I meet them; I loathe and despise the groups they identify with and belong to."

There are no elitists on here, just honest opinions by forum members. Most people on here, want to see both good and bad opinions about bands, so there is really no need to make an issue about this.