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Old 08-20-2013, 04:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Do you think Rock Artists lose credibility when going to reality shows?

A thread not about music, wow.

Or singing shows for that matter.

Steven Tyler was in American idol. Ozzy Osbourne and Gene Simmons started their own show, am I missing anyone else?

I have seen some Rock fans reacting badly to those shows. I even heard one saying that Ozzy became the joke of United States. I watched that show and found it amusing tbh, it showed a side of Ozzy that one one would expect (if you're not a fan).

Honestly, I don't care that much, but I think being a Rock star implies some kind of mysticism. I do think that Rock is the most respected genre overall, considering the amount of posers it has and the overbearingness of some people. So that would make the Rock genre and it's representants to be put in some kind of pedestal.

But to be honest, I felt quite relieved when I found out Bruce Dickinson declined to host The Voice in UK. I have absolutely no faith in those shows, besides he would be... exposed to the public in a different way. Would he have thought that Iron Maiden would be considered less?
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Old 08-20-2013, 08:00 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Aside from Dickinson all the people you listed are approaching 70 years old and have been multi platinum selling artists for decades.

It's not up to them to make a statement of credibility it's up to the bands that are up and coming now to do that.

I wouldn't begrudge anybody trying to get a pension fund after decades of spending months on the road.
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Old 08-20-2013, 10:43 PM   #3 (permalink)
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A few years ago they had an INXS reality show looking for a new lead singer and that was a flop for the band in the long run. I think the show itself did alright, generated good interest but the newly reformed band put out an album and then quickly dropped by the way.

I could imagine fans will only begrudge the likes of Ozzy if hes part of a panel that picks the next bieber, cause thats just not rock n roll.
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Old 08-21-2013, 03:28 AM   #4 (permalink)
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A thread not about music, wow.

Or singing shows for that matter.

Steven Tyler was in American idol. Ozzy Osbourne and Gene Simmons started their own show, am I missing anyone else?

I have seen some Rock fans reacting badly to those shows. I even heard one saying that Ozzy became the joke of United States. I watched that show and found it amusing tbh, it showed a side of Ozzy that one one would expect (if you're not a fan)
If you found it amusing to watch a programme about a family in a drug crisis being exploited (or should I say, ransacking their dignity) for entertainment purposes. A family led by a father who (at the time) was struggling with addiction and has a history of depression. Christ
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If you found it amusing to watch a programme about a family in a drug crisis being exploited (or should I say, ransacking their dignity) for entertainment purposes. A family led by a father who (at the time) was struggling with addiction and has a history of depression. Christ
referring to the osbournes???


that was the purpose of the show and why it was so successful because of the dysfunction of that family. dont try to guilt someone over it man


ummmm to answer the original post i think in general people would think these guys lose credibility if it wasnt so common place. i think a lot of ppl consider it selling out and not being true rock or whatever but its just so common.

i personally dont care because i never take the images of any musician seriously since its all kinda gimmicky and exagerated. thats why i dont have a problem with ice cube selling out, cause i never considered him a real thug anyways. though i think once you cross a line its hard to go back with image.

most the guys on shows are out of their primes so it doesnt matter much but its hard to take ppl like ice cube seriously with gangster lyrics after bein in kids movies. again i realize its an image but the illusion is gone.
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I thought The Ozbornes was funny. The fact I could understand 50% of what Ozzie was saying without subtitles amazed even me. I watched the show just to hear Ozzie talk and try to decypher it. But his family and dogs and where they lived was also very entertaining. Did he lose credibility? I don't know becuase I was never a fan before the show. I'm sure most of his fans got a kick out of it and still love his music as much if not more.

When it comes to Gene Simmons? I was also never a Kiss fan but did listen to them in the 70's and saw them live once and I was sort of surprised he was not as obnoxious and self-aggrandizing as I'd thought he'd be.

I'm still waiting for a Bob Dylan reality show. Or maybe a Bob Dylan Variety show :-)
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I thought the Osbourne's was actually fantastic. Didn't make me think any less of Ozzy himself, but showed he was a good guy who had his demons. He loved Sharon and his children, but had things he had to deal with. Showing Ozzy as a real person with vulnerabilities and problems may have taken away from the mystique for some, but he was ultimately the one the audience could care for and relate with.

His kids were spoiled *******s, but he loved them. Sharon was somewhat spoiled as well, but a loyal and caring presence.

Families aren't perfect, but the Osbourne family was replete with love and understanding, beneath all of the bull****.
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Do you think Rock Artists lose credibility when going to reality shows?
I have a better question.... Why do people watch reality shows?

Reality television is the lowest form of entertainment. I'd rather watch paint dry on a wall.
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I have a better question.... Why do people watch reality shows?

Reality television is the lowest form of entertainment. I'd rather watch paint dry on a wall.
how is that a better question?

People watch reality shows because they are often just guilty pleasures and ARE entertaining in some capacity. Majority of the time it's like watching a train wreck but you are compelled to watch this over produced train wreck happen that gets played off like it's reality when it's not. Reality Tv is really great from an investors stand point, low production values and high ratings so it's win win.

While everyone is off pretending like Reality Television is the worse thing in the world they are secretly closet fans and ARE watching at least one show.
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Nah not really i don't think it ruins their cred as musicians but i do think some musicians would not do a reality show simply because it is a reality tv show..

i also think this "Star search" shows are kinda lame because even if a contestant wins and gets a record contract his fame is temporary and ppl will always remember him as the guy/girl who won that tv show that one time
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