Your as hard on the Vikings as I am the Cowboys. At least your finally rid of Farve if nothing else lol.

I can just see Favre coming back and saying that the lockout helped rejuvenate him and he's ready to play some football. Thankfully, unless Childress gets a job somewhere, no one's going to want him.

Haha yeah I am pretty hard on them. There's been a ton of suffering and heartbreak for us Vikes fans though. They owe us.

What's this? A Vikings fan amongst us?

Blasphemy.

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Ughh God I knew it wouldnt be long before we'd have to hear something from Crash about the Greenbay Fudge Packers.

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Yeah I'm sure you miss the 90's...


As in, the last time your team won something.

As for the Vikings... well... NEVER!!!















...and it's Super Bowl Champion Fudge Packers to you...

Yes yes...but count the total rings son....5. Add up the time span from when they formed the franchise at how fast those rings were won...probaly the fastest in history...Greenbay being around since before their was an Nfl should probaly have at least as much if not more than us by now. But yall did have Farve holding ya back many many years. In spite of his one SB win I still just never bought into his game. Geez if Eli Manning could win a super bowl then anything is possible.

Seriously though I aint gotta problem with Greenbay..but I like the back and forth trash talk with a devote fan that stands by his guys...(except for Aaron Rogers..dont know why..dont have a reason....just dont like him)

It's 13 total championships now.

You probably don't like Rodgers because he's the best QB in the NFL and he doesn't play for your team. I can't say I blame you honestly.

I don't really have a problem with the Boys either, just like to talk a little trash too. Especially since we are the champs, how often does that happen?

13 sounds better than what ya have yes...lol.

As far as wanting Rogers no...obviously I have to give him his credit cause of the ring and his stats this last season but man...I just dont like him. Maybe its cuz he reminds me of Kermit the frog or something I dunno..thats shallow yes but meh.

And yes yall winning a super bowl is a rare commodity these days to say the least..lol..savor the feeling cuz God knows when yall will win another.

I completely agree with you. I'm ready for the next new personality like you mentioned.

That's not even better....lay off of the Niners bro. I hope they do get this guy.

God if the niners get him im gonna be pissed! Really they should concentrate on their Q.B. dilema whether draft wise or in free agency whenever that gets resolved but either way..it def needs to be addressed.

If they get him can't they use him as a bargaining chip to get a better QB if they really think about it?

I suppose they could but if they get him id hold onto him and use someone else to bargain with. I wouldnt let him slip away he's a franchise investment definatley which is why I dont think he'll go past the 5th pick. The chances of getting him are slim to none I think but you never know..it could happen.

**** off. This disaster of a season would end this way. God I hate the Pack..

If I were the 49ers I'd try to trade for a solid veteran or sign somebody. Not sure who is all available but I am sure there are a few starter-quality QBs out there. And even though the 49ers are terrible, they are in the NFC West where anything is possible. It's always a win-now mentality in that division in my opinion. Even if they got a guy like McNabb, they'd be favorites to win that division or at least have a really good chance. For San Fran's sake I hope they don't reach for a QB with a high draft pick. We saw what happened last time they did that (terrible Alex Smith) and they are still paying the price.

As for my Falcons draft needs...

I love how their offense is built. The last handful of years they've drafted some offensive lineman who are starters now. I think their offensive line is fine, a good mix of younger guys and some veterans to anchor the center and right side. Michael Turner is 30 now, and running backs seem to always decline at 30. BUT he was a backup for years in San Diego so he hasn't taken nearly as many hits as most premiere 30 year old running backs. I'm really interested to see what he does.

-Just a quick thought on Turner. Do you guys have players like this on your teams? What I mean is that Turner always puts up great numbers (1700 yds in '08 and 1371 last year) but the guy plays with NO PASSION at all. He just doesn't want it. But I cna't hate him cause he has put up great seasons every year with Atlanta but he doesn't run hard at all. He just happens to have absolute tree trunks for legs and will pound you with 3 yard runs until he can break a tackle and go for 12 or 15 yards. I don't know, just one of those guys that's so frustrating to watch cause he'll pussyfoot at 250 pounds.

Anyways, back to my assessment of Atlanta. I thought Jerious Norwood was a great pick years ago out of Miss. St (running back). Speed guy who i thought would be a great asset, but he had some serious leg injuries and never got used much. I love their backup RB Jason Snelling, I hope he is used more this season. But in the middle rounds I'd love to see Atlanta get another RB and groom him a little bit. No huge expectations, just let him grow these next few years. Tony Gonzalez is awesome but he's obviously old. Atlanta run a ton of 6 lineman sets and twin TEs and stuff for running plays and their backup TEs are great run blockers, but I really hope they look at drafting a receiving TE. I think a good TE is so great for an offense and Tony's years are numbered. Michael Jenkins is GARBAGE at WR. He's been terrible for them, he's a total bum. Douglas is a good enough slot WR when he's healthy, but GOD PLEASE GET RODDY WHITE SOME HELP AT WR.

Biggest concern is defense though. Two years ago they had terrible LBs but Curtis Lofton is a name some may not know, but he is a stud at MLB. Love how he plays. They drafted Weatherspoon last year at OLB so i wanna give him time and see what he does, but atlanta REALLY needs 2 things in my opinion... Pass rushers and a safety. Last year they were able to get some good pressure with a 4 man line, but they need a dynamic player to blitz on obvious passing downs and get to the QB. Just not enough pressure right now and they can't blitz as much as they want to because their secondary is so weak. I actually really like Thomas Decoud at safety, but they need someone to play alongside him back there. It'd be great if they could possibly move up in the draft and get a safety. And also get some nickel and dime CBs, slot receivers kill them. I'm pretty happy with Robinson and Grimes at CB. They aren't the best but I think they are good enough. Grimes is from the small PA school of Shippensburg and has improved SO much this past year.

tl:dr - Improve pass rushers, secondary, and draft a running back, nickel and dime CBs, and possibly a receiving TE.

I'm glad I don't have that problem on the Vikings. Even when AP isn't putting up numbers in some games, the passion he shows for the game is unequaled. He's like the Ray Lewis of offense.

Turner is a beast though. He's a rare blend of size, power and speed. I never really noticed the lack of passion to be honest.

Turner kinda reminds me of Shaun Alexander back when he was still around and good. They run like a box on wheels (best way i can think to describe it). It's just frustrating cause he's so gigantic but has a tendency to not hit the hole and explode through it, but instead run through his linemans back and carry the pile for a 3 yard gain. At the end of the year he always has great numbers but I just feel like he could be even better, he just doesn't seem to want the greatness. If he has a hole though on like a slash type of play there he's running kinda between the tackle and guard toward the sideline, he's a boss at breaking tackles of secondary guys. His legs are so gigantic, they just slide off when they try wrapping him up and that's where he breaks his big runs.

I love Adrian Peterson. He is awesome, that dude gives it his all every single game and runs like he wants to kill anyone coming at him. Nobody has that speed and power combo like AP, I don't know how anyone could hate on a player like that. I was watching the Steelers-Vikes game when he caught the checkdown pass over the middle and steamrolled a Steeler (William Gay maybe??) and hustled out of bounds. He runs like a horse possessed.

There should be QBs available for the 49ers if the situation gets resolved: Hasselbeck, Bulger, McNabb, Kolb, maybe Orton, Palmer... Definitely should look elsewhere during the draft.

There are many teams with Q.B. issues but if somehow they got P. Peterson there is no way id trade him for one, nor would I try an trade up for one. Thats what I was getting at...Cornerbacks in the Nfl seems every bit as important as Q.B.s. There are just so few that can actually do their job consistantly and effectivley.

Which also reminds me..im pretty sure I heard that Cromartie with the Jets is a free agent and that more than likley they wont be able to keep him. He would be a nice compliment to any secondary. I wish Jerry hadnt blown his wad on signing Roy-im a big waste of money-Williams. Not that it matters now but it was a real bone head move on Jerrys part.

One more thing..how long has Carson wanted to leave the Bengals or was a year with Ocho and T.O. the final straw?lol

Speaking of CBs, I'd give my left nut to get Asomugha on the Vikings. In my opinion he's the best player in the league.

Just saw on Sportscenter about a Tampa Bay Bucc shooting at his sisters boyfriend in a Dallas suburb...nice.

This is basketball but sports drama none the less. Jalen Rose got a D.W.I. awsome! He refused to take a breathalizer so they gave him a blood test...fail.

I can't imagine all of that kind of stuff we'll see over the lockout. The players always get in trouble in the offseason. Maybe the lockout is the NFL's way of getting rid of all the riff-raff haha.

Oh I forgot that right now the players arent under any kind of union rules as far as conduct. Yeah this should definatley be an interesting offseason. I got dibs on Pacman Jones for hitting the highlight reel of top 10 off season arrest stories. Is Plaxico Burress out yet? Throw him in there...half the Bengals squad really. Oh and lets hope Roethelisburger stays away from frat parties this time.

What's the over/under on how many girls Big Ben will rape? (gotta deal with not being able to watch football somehow)

Haha I'm not sure why, outside of losing so often, but he came out with a quote that basically said: "I want to be traded. I will never put on a Bengals uniform again. I have $80 million in the bank and am perfectly fine retiring, f- the Bengals."

I hear he plays golf with Christian Contemporary Gospel singers now so maybe he's reformed. If I had to guess though id say at least ehhh 2 or 3?

Yeah we could have like a offseason criminal super bowl. Whoever gets the most prison time in the off season

I would definitely be down for that. Everyone can be a winner if they play.

I hope Carson Palmer actually does retire. I've never really liked the Bengals much. I think Marvin Lewis is a bum coach who has gotten way too long of a leash since he has been in Cinci. And I think Carson has been overrated his whole career too and he's not been nearly as good since that bad knee injury he had a couple seasons ago. He seems like a smart guy and if he wants pack up his bags and lounge in luxury instead of playing for a terrible team, then I hope he goes for it and this isn't just a gimmick to put pressure on Cinci to trade him.

At this point I would be more surprised if Pacman Jones DIDN'T get arrested this off-season. I think it'd be hilarious if all the players went buckwild and there were a ton of arrests this off-season.

One thing I hate though is how big of a deal everyone makes of players, especially ones who have been in some sort of trouble, going out and partying. I hate Big Ben, I think he's a scumbag low-life and I was happy he didn't win the Superbowl this year. But did anyone else see how they were talking about how he was singing karaoke at a bar the week before the superbowl? And every time someone is at a strip club it's like they make it into the crime of the century. These guys get paid tons of money, let them live it up and party. You better believe if I had millions of dollars I would be hitting up strip joints and screwing strippers. Who cares, it isn't illegal, let a man live his life. Then the player always comes out with the standard apology written by his agent: "I apologize for my actions. They were irresponsible blah blah blah." I hate that shit so much, it's like they fall into a trap. I want more athletes who don't care and are just like "I went to the strip joint, took shots from a strippers cleavage, drank some beers with my boys and then went home with my entourage and we all banged slutty models."

Amen to that man...im really not seeing the point of apologizing for things of that nature. It only makes for a story on ESPN and a quick topic to see if anyone else heard and thats the extent of it. Really I dont care who does what cause nobody really knows whats scandal and whats not. One can only assume and assumption is the mother of all **** ups. I joke but I dont know the facts anymore than anyone else does.

But like Jalen Rose aplogizing for running off the road after a few drinks. He didnt hit anyone and its not like he had a kid in the car with him. He wasnt ten times the legal limit or anything. The roads were icy and he was tipsy! For ****s sake "who cares" Dont apologize...just be like.."yeah man I was pretty ****ed up when I came around that corner but I didnt hit ****. No harm no foul just a little probation." Im not promoting drunk driving but damn. That doesnt take away from anything he's done on the court or make him an awful person.

Good thing its not the early 90's or Irvin would probaly be getting popped for cocaine possesion. Or Nate Newton for smuggling weed or god knows. You can bet one man that will be in the spot light is Vick. Im pretty sure if he farts near a dog that PETA will have him thrown in jail. Or if he does anything out of the norm..or what they deem the norm.

now their saying P.Peterson took a bribe to go to LSU. *******s seem to attract rumors. Being an ******* isnt a crime and most *******s are to honest for their own good and have a better work ethic than the darlings of the media. Just cuz someone doesnt consent to the structured controlled environment of humanity. Doesnt mean his integrity should be questioned

I don't even want to analyze the draft because of what the Vikings did. Perfect replacement for Pat Williams sitting right there and instead you let him go to a division rival for what will become the most feared DT duo in the league for the next 10 years. And that's without even considering who they took instead...

What a weird draft so far.
-No Bowers in the first round.
-Prince fell further than I thought.
-Cowboys taking a lineman?
-Locker over Gabbert

Yeah the Bowers thing is pretty crazy. People were talking about the Panthers taking him 1st overall before the Combine.

I'm happy with Marcell Dareus for my Bills, it filled a huge void. It was better than picking a QB we didn't believe in 100%.

@Thom Yorke Sorry about the reach with Minnesota, I think they got a little scared when they saw Locker go, so they had to grab a QB.

Atlanta had a bigger reach though, because of what they lost. Is Al Davis running the Falcons now?

Overall, very interesting first round. I'm hoping Buffalo will pick up Bowers or Dalton with the 2nd pick tomorrow.

I have no idea what the Vikings are doing to be honest. I am hoping for their sake they still plan on signing a veteran free agent QB like McNabb or Hasselback. They should still be trying to win now and Ponder has no business starting. Hell he had no business being considered in the 1st round in my opinion.

For my Falcons... Not sure what to think right now. I think I still like the move, but I'm not sure. Falcons have made some risky draft moves these past few years and have been really hit or miss (Hit: Matt Ryan. Miss: Jamal Anderson). I'm not even sure I spelled Anderson's name right, that's how little impact he has had as a 1st round pick a few years back.

Falcons had a deal in place with the Bengals to move up and get AJ Green, which I would have loved. I still like Julio Jones though and I think he has stud potential. Fact of the matter is that Tony Gonzalez has 1 or maybe 2 years left. Michael Turner is over 30 now. I think they saw a chance to get a rare type of receiver and went for it. And you know what? I support the aggressive move. They did give up this year's 1st, 2nd, and 4th. AND next years 1st and 4th... I view the 4th round picks as kind of expendable. Most of these guys are gonna be average players and backups. Guys with the talent levels of other players you can sign as free agents. Next years 1st rounder will probably be a low pick again so they aren't giving up a top pick or anything.

Last year Roddy White was bothered by a knee injury and I think Atlanta realized... HOLY SHIT if this guy has to miss games at some point, we are totally fucked! Their only serious concern is secondary, mainly safety and nickel/dime cornerbacks and I don't think they were gonna find anyone at #27 to come in and start right away. Nickel and Dime backs you can draft in the 3rd round or later anyways.

Still sucks they wont have a 1st round selection next year, but they arent a team with a ton of needs in my opinion. I thought receiver was probably the 2nd or 3rd most important need for them behind safety and eventually they are gonna have to draft a TE and groom him for after Tony's retirement. I don't view draft picks as valuable as most people, and instead of maybe collecting 4 or 5 average players over the next 2 years, they went out to get 1 stud player. I just hope Julio is as good as I think he'll be.

But right now, I'm ****in excited to have a potential big impact receiving threat. The problem with Atlanta (other than coverage) is that they aren't a team that can come from behind. One of the least explosive teams in the NFL. And now that will change.

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Julio Jones is a stud. I bet he turns out better than Green.

On your point about them becoming an explosive offensive team: that won't happen until they put more responsibility into Ryan's hands, and I'm not sure if their coaching staff wants that or thinks he has it in him, but this may be an indication they are trending that way.

and thank god, the Colts finally drafted an O-lineman. the Colts major flaw drafting in the Manning era: spending too many high picks on skill players when they could be dominant with better linemen. Manning ELEVATES the skill players around him.

When Gabbert fell, I couldn't believe that the Vikings wouldn't have traded up 2 spots to get him. Oh well, just another wasted first.

I don't think Julio Jones was a reach at all, I had him going 6th. I was just surprised it was the Falcons who traded up. That offense could be lethal. I doubt he'll end up better than Green though. Both are studs, but Green is a step above IMO.

And the Cardinals secondary is going to be incredible.

Ya man, I wanted him tenfold over Miller. Tonight is going to be exciting. I really don't think they will go QB, but it is possible. I'd actually be cool with taking Bowers. I think Dalton will go to Cinci right after our pick, and I think we will be set for another QB in the third round, as many teams already filled QB needs, and I believe Miami doesnt have a 2nd round pick.

I think what they gave up was a stretch. Julio Jones is a good wideout no doubt about it. But converting wideouts to NFL receivers usually takes some time. Not saying he won't be a good one, but its a timing thing. The one positive is Roddy is gonna be the one demanding double coverage leaving Julio on an island with the other DB. You gotta double Tony the tiger also, should open up their game a bit, but we'll see how it works out.

Cam Newton is gonna start from day one in Carolina and should make a run at offensive rookie of the year i believe. I like the Chargers pick being a Charger fan, they have been lean on the defensive inside since losing J-WALL. Cam has been good, but its always nice to have depth.

I thought the really bold move was Tennessee taking Locker so high. I would have waited on the Colin Kaepernick from Nevada. Guy is a flatout winner and i think he passes Locker on any depth chart in the long run.

yeah,i don't really know either. I'm going to try to trust them as best i can, these are the same guys who picked adrianne peterson, percy harvin, sydney rice and chad greenway. So ill wait and see for now.

Im simply floored by the Cowboys decision to waste a number one pick on a tackle. Just one more example why we cant ever seem to our ducks in a row. What the hell are they thinking really? I didnt get to see the draft as it happened but when i turned on Nfl network the next day and saw it flash across the bottom. I rolled my eyes and just thought to myself...theres no end to our demise. Lets just completley ignore the fact that every team in the NFL can throw the ball down the field on Dallas. Also every team knows that and ever team does!!! Jesus Christ stop the bleeding already Jerry!! Because Romo the effin homo get hot his poor little shoulder seperated you felt that the line was more urgent or what? I dont know who's calling the shots on the draft but there couldnt have been a worse one for the Cowboys.