YeahI was a tad surprised they came out at 2... I mean they did beat number 1, but prior to that, they had a pretty cake schedule compared to some...

But I guess PSU only faced 2 ranked teams, one of which isn't even ranked anymore...

and #3 is plenty enough respect :p Although it could lead to a nice bowl, I hate Georgia Tech being ranked when I know we aren't going to go much further... Always lose the week after :o

But we are still in the running for the ACC Championship game :D

And guess what, we are ranked again this week :rolleyes: Against the damn Tar Heels...

Brady Quinn to start! Browns are going to be unstoppable on thursday night.

i bet the NFL forced romeo's hand in this matter. first thursday night game of the season(2 slumping teams) and he is going to have 1 full day of practice. in addition, anderson had a pretty good game this past week.

Yeah but their season is pretty much over... Too many toughies to go 5-3 based on current form with inconsistent Anderson.

Anderson obviously wasn't the future, obviously enough at the end of last year, where he had a lot of very average games, and pretty much cost the Browns a playoff spot vs Cincy...

Though I am hearing people go on about how they could have gotten a 1st round or something if they traded at the end of last year. IMO keeping him was the best option at 2mil g, but they gave him a massive pay rise. If they traded him, and did well while Quinn stunk up the place, they would be getting trashed...

They gave Ando the chance, and pretty much got them out of playoff contention quite early (Along with fumble fingers Braylon :p:)

I'm hoping Quinn does well for them though.. A solid half a year of practice before stepping up next year when they will hope to push with a new signed RB and hopefully some good additions to the front seven or Dbacks.

High school football at its finest. :D

I'm not too mad about the rankings -- PSU has the highest probability of staying undefeated ('Bama has to play LSU and probably Florida in the SEC championship, and Texas Tech has a rough schedule ahead of itself). It's just that people disrespect the Big Ten so much, regardless of how good a team may be.

Here's a handful of reasons why we should be ranked above Texas Tech:
1) One of the best defenses in the nation, allowing about 11 PPG (and six against Ohio State).
2) A GREAT running game and hands-down the best wide receivers in the nation.
3) A blooming quarterback who represents a dual threat.

Exactly. This is why we kept them both. To keep the job competitive and hopefully bring the best out of the both of them. Further, people are acting like DA has no value. I'd bet Minnesota would still give up a 1st rounder for him.

That's why us App State fans are fine with 1-AA :D

"With one game, Appalachian State served notice that it is ready to defend its national title for a fourth straight time. The Mountaineers scored TDs on their first six possessions en route to a 70-24 rout of conference rival Wofford. Armanti Edwards threw for 367 yards and five TDs while leading Appalachian State to its sixth straight win and a No. 2 ranking in this week's Index."

I was at that game, it was amazing.

Because you've won the National Championship the last 1512478651 years and will probably continue to do so for the next 18913186132 or so...

Are you kidding? We sucked before Armanti, and we're gonna suck again once he graduates.

Well, maybe not a first... Frerotte has been very solid so far, and actually is now a deep threat with Berrian. Maybe a 3rd +...

Denver should account for Cleveland tonight... In my opinion :p:

The Browns don't stand a chance.

Which is weird because they are favourites :p:

Still think the Cleveland D is better than the Denver D... Virtual rookie QB doesn't really help... Though Anderson never made adjustments to the defence anyway...

lol :p: VERY happy to be wrong so far (Quinn on my fantasy team)

wow. he looked pretty good. all short crap but he didnt make any mistakes.

Well that pass to Braylon Edwards was awesome... Too bad the idiot in Winslow got it called back with OPI :mad: :p:

It was a safe gameplan, but his quick decision making and passes were a real standout... So much faster at getting the ball out with a good decision than Anderson was...

True. Quinn looked very good. The browns just always find a way to **** it up at the end though. This team should be 5-4 right now.

Derek Anderson was not the Browns biggest problem, that joke of a Defense is their most obvious hole. Until they can fix that problem (and you know, just in general, not give up 440+ yards passing) Brady Quinn will be no more successful than DA.

Perhaps. While QB obviously isn't the problem, Quinn may still be the better choice. He is actually able to read a defense and has touch and accuracy on the shorter routes. Of course DA can throw the deep ball with the best of them (assuming the pass isn't dropped, BRAYLON!) so it's really up to what you prefer with those two. Though I'd bet Kellen Winslow is loving Quinn at QB, as Anderson never looks his way. On defense Wright is solid but outside of him there's nothing at corner. I feel that our LBs are our biggest problem though. In the 3-4 we are fine on the line, but we can never get a consistent pass rush from the linebackers, and NONE of them can cover anybody for more than a second in pass coverage. Thus, the quarterbacks have all day to pick our secondary apart. Willie McGinnist should probably just quit right now, because he is a disgrace to athletes everywhere. Wimbley's good, but he only has one move. We're decent at MLB but Andre Davis is getting old. I think LB should be our first choice in the draft, because with the way the draft is beginning to shape up, we'll have the pick of the litter. Further, solid CBs can be found in the 2nd and 3rd rounds, as Wright and countless others have demonstrated year in and year out.

Well said, you really can't blame the cornerbacks for giving huge gains to a hobbled Tony Scheffler or for letting the Broncs somehow still manage to get as many rushing yards as they did with their 3rd and 4th string running backs and then even their full back. A linebacker would be a wise decision for a first pick but looking to other first day draft choices they're going to need a running back eventually, Jamal Lewis isn't who he used to be. I think with either quarterback if they can tighten up their defense and find a good young talent (like a Tim Hightower or Chris Johnson) to compliment the bruising of Lewis, we're looking at a playoff team in a couple of years.

Agreed accept for the running back part. We have the personnel for a more spread type of offense. I think Harrison/Wright are more than capable backups in that system, but Lewis sticks out like a sore thumb. Sure he's great, sure he's a 1000 yard rusher, but his style of running doesn't help us out. I think if we go running back any time soon, we need to address it in the first round, get a stud speed back. Knowshaun Moreno perhaps.

I don't think the management of the Browns could pass on picking a defensive player in the first round this year after taking Thomas and Quinn in 07 and with the wealth of talent already on that side of the ball especially in comparison to the defense. Looking from a one game perspective, it looks like they shouldn't have given D.A. that big new contract and having two big name QBs signed for the kind of money they are will probably continue to be a hindrance to signing any more free agents of Shaun Rogers caliber. I don't know it just seems they have a lot to sort out up there and it's not a great time for them to do it with the Steelers continuing their dominance of the division and the Ravens emerging offensive attack to compliment the overrated but still great defense. They're going to have to take out one of those teams if they want to make the playoffs in the future, and the way things are going, I don't really see that happening.

I reckon they wouldn't go too badly with a great DE/LB pass rusher from this draft, and there are plenty of em coming through... Its obvious enough what a great Dline can do by the Giants... Rogers in the middle, rookie DE on the right or OLB goes a fair way to solidifying the D as dac said.

The secondary sucks obviously, but I reckon there will be solid DBs in the 2nd and later rounds...

You reckon your guys can turn it around on the back half Christian? Colts still playoff bound?

i really like themmmm

You do realize that:
1. We're not actually paying Quinn that much money
2. DA's contract is only for 3 years
3. The Browns have plenty of cap space, especially with the oncoming retirements of McGinist and Jureviscius after this season

I am a Titans fan so I am in heaven this year...I mean Vince Young goes nuts and we start Kerry Collins...Our defense is awesome and our running game is as well...then we still win with only 21 rushing yards against da Bears...I am just waiting for it to all go wrong.

Just imagine if you guys had a stud QB (Jay Cutler, perhaps) and a legit #1 reciever... F*cking Scary!

I think about that a lot...Our defense is top notch but eventually a team will crack it and then we are fuct.

I can't believe there wasn't a midseason move to get another reciever for Mr. Collins.

Coach Fisher doesn't like to mess with team chemistry we will see how that works out:confused:

Meh, I say throw away a draft pick. It's worth the risk. Put it all into this year, otherwise you'll just keep coming up short. I'll be rooting for them though, I always like it when the less popular teams win.

We definitely are, we've already made it through the rough part of our schedule, and we still have home games vs. Cinci and Detriot so we've got 7 wins if all else fails, which it won't. Peyton has been off all year because of that knee so I don't know how I feel about us actually doing anything in the playoffs, but one thing is for sure, we're going to be more prepared for those grind-em-out close games than in years past because we've already had to come from behind so many times.

I think as of now the colts don't play a team with a winning record for the rest of the season so I consider them a lock for the Wild Card, assuming Tennessee doesn't slip.

Tennessee will though. The only reason they're undefeated is because they haven't played any of the really good teams.

Even as painful as this is for me to admit, Indy has no shot whatsoever at the division title, we'd have to win out and have Tennessee go 3-4 the rest of the way, and i just don't see either of those things happening. I think once we won our game last week at the Steelers that pretty much secured our place in the playoffs.

Agreed, You guys beat two top ten teams on the road in consecutive weeks :bowdown:

Nah, we beat New England at home

Jets tonight for sure.