This is very misleading, which I'm sure is intentional.

Manning has the edge in virtually every stat. Yards per game, yards per attempt, completion pct, and then you say that Brady has the edge in passer rating? The difference at this very moment is .2, but that isn't "identical"?

Getting the the Super Bowl is a team accomplishment, and Peyton Manning has actually been just as good if not slightly better than Brady in the postseason. (See the edit on my last post)

Never said that he hasn't been the biggest component to NE's success. He has, but he gets a lot of credit for being in their innovative systems that make it easy for him. Ofc, he makes it look easy and I'm not taking that away from him.

But all the stats aside from playoff wins/touchdowns/superbowls really dont matter ALL that much. When it comes to setting records in the postseason brady holds nearly every single one. How can you say Manning is better in the offseason when his win/loss record is so much less.

And I think a big reason Brady is a better overall team player is because he has Belichek coaching him, people underestimate how amazing that guy is.

Good receivers need good quarterbacks, that's just the way it works.

Are you going to compare Brandon Stokley to Welker now? Welker's an elite receiver, Stokley was briefly good with the Colts before fading into obscurity.

Welker is legitimately talented, and that's why NE coveted him so much, when they signed him they knew what they had. Same goes for Danny Amendola, who's probably going to blossom into the next Wes Welker after having spent the last few years being compared to him.

Again, while W/L records are charged to quarterbacks, they are team accomplishments. If Mark Sanchez went 19-0 5 years in a row while still maintaining his same mediocre stats, would he suddenly be in the running for best quarterback of all time? Using W/L records as a point is useless, because while wins mean everything to your team, they actually mean nothing as an individual stat.

You see it in baseball all the time, someone wins 25 games and wins the Cy Young over a guy with an ERA a full run lower, but he only has 15 or 16 wins. It's ridiculous.

the point is you are willing to consider welker elite and stokley a bum despite neither of them doin anything without peyton or brady

welker is the better player but thats a lofty statement to say the pats knew what they were gettin with him. he caught more balls his first year with the pats then the previous 3 years since he came into the league. do you think welker would have done that in miami? or anywhere else?

amendola could be welker-lite for them but his body is made of glass

Of course he wouldn't have done it in Miami. Receivers only put up stats reflecting their true potential if they have a good quarterback throwing to them, and that definitely wouldn't have happened out in Miami. He would have been good on any team with a decent quarterback, though.

To be totally honest, I don't even think Miami knew what they had in Welker, or maybe they would have kept him and used him as a starting point for building up their passing game.

Welker is 5 9 185LB. Mind = Blown

san fran, land of pussies. made me lol. probably a satirical thing tho and not real




trent richardson to indy.... wowwwwww


can cleveland be any dumber?

It was written by a 74 year old man who apparently thinks football = golf or tennis. Some of the local sports radio journalists talked to him, it's real.

But it's not representative at all of SF fans, who also think it's ridiculous.

Ponder's going to get benched if he doesn't have a good game against this Browns team. The defense should have a field day.

Just win it this week.

They should put the whole Browns team on the bench and save themselves and the fan the trouble.

LOL at getting a mid-to-late 1st round pick for a 3rd overall pick from 2012. I don't care what your team's philosophy is,that's awful value for a guy who has performed up to expectations so far.

No way Cutty stays past this year, although starting 3-0 is nice he hasn't shown any better decision-making skills and I'm starting to think he's uncoachable. Bears D isn't missing a beat either, crushing offensives like nobody's biz although the second half of the Pitt game was embarassing.

cutler is stayin dude they have no alternative and have a superbowl caliber team around him

falcons lost a game they shoulda won. already a ton of serious injuries and just mental mistakes and poor clock management. not worried about the playoffs but a big game this week sunday night vs the pats

Denver looks unbeatable.

yea they really do. i realize tonight was vs oakland but that was just surgical on offense. peyton completed at least 15 passes in a row at one point. they just look unbeatable.

and honestly i know its easy to get caught up in the moment, but looking at their schedule, its actually realistic for them to go undefeated. at max they lose 2 games. they play @ new england and kansas city in back to back weeks later in the season. other than that i see no resistance in a weak afc to stop them. they are truly amazing to watch. peyton is a god

They remind me of the '07 Patriots a lot in that they have unstoppable offense and their defense is still an elite unit. Teams like that are just always seem to win at least 14 games. Denver's offense is exceptional though, I could definitely see them running the table.

Chicago (3-0) @ Detroit (2-1) this week. Should be a good match-up for a first place title, but I fear Cutler may be getting beat up again.

Denver has a joke of a schedule and it continues to be that way for basically the entire season. I could see something similar to last year where they crash in the playoffs when facing some real competition. Really, their biggest test besides Houston late in the year is a couple games against a team that may be the biggest fluke of the year in Kansas City.

Seattle on the other hand has already dominated a game against an elite team. They clearly have the best and most physical defense in the league, and their offense is very efficient in both the running and passing game. They're also getting Harvin back mid-season, which adds a whole new dynamic to the offense. To me, they're the best and most complete team in the league.

Fantasy Football is probably just so familiar to all of you now that you don't really put a lot of thought into it, but I'm an Englishman who is still rather new to the NFL and so this is the first FF league I've been involved in this season. Damn it is so much more complex than the equivalent here for our football. Drafts, trades, adds, drops, waivers...it takes a little getting used to! Not that I'm complaining, at all, I'm actually having a lot of fun with it. Plus I'm currently second place, at 2-1.

I'm playing first place this week though, and have Jordy Nelson out on their bye week. I think I may just get a rookie sized beating this week.

I keep thinking of a season that most of you are too young to remember, but there was in this season an offensive JUGGERNAUT, they scored at will all season long, it seemed that NO ONE could stop them and no one DID stop them all season, Their quarterback was the MVP, and in the opening round of the playoffs they put an unmerciful BEATDOWN on their opening round opponent, then squeaked out a win against what would become a dynasty in the conference championship to advance to the Superbowl. They were universal favorites to win.

What few saw was that they were up against a FEARSOME defense, a defense that was extremely talented at all positions but ESPECIALLY at cornerback, maybe the greatest cornerback duo ever to play the game. Those two corners COMPLETELY shut down the vaunted passing game, SMOTHERING the wideouts, allowing the remainder of the defense to dismantle their power running attack and make the MVP quarterback's day fecking MISERABLE. The result of the game was a humiliating beating, one of the most one sided Superbowls ever played.

The season was 1983. Superbowl XVIII.

What does your team look like?

I actually consider FF the simplest fantasy league out there, and because of that, it's also the best sport to have a fantasy team in. You only have to worry about setting your lineup once a week usually and combining everyone's points into a standard score makes it a lot easier. In fantasy sports like basketball you have to gauge how many rebounds, steals, etc. your team will get on a week-to-week basis.

People are always seemingly more impressed with a great offense than a great defense, but a great D can be even more effective. Seattle's D is scary. Having the corners that they do, it allows them to play single coverage and opens up a lot more things for the rest of the D. They can stack 8 guys in the box and bring a strong blitz and not miss a beat in coverage. Plus, it seems that every single guy on that D is a behemoth for their position.

Oops I meant to link this


Super Bowl XVIII - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I can only compare it to the Premier League one, and the NFL is more complex. I don't necessarily mean confusing, just complex. Once I did a mock draft and learned what a waiver was, I was pretty much good to go. But the PL one is simple - you have a total value for the squad from which to pick 11 starters and 3 subs, you only one get free transfer a week, theres no restrictions on different managers selecting the same players, and the league table is based on total points. So the NFL one was a little surprising to me, a 12 team league, a draft, a head-to-head each week. It wasn't really what I was expecting.

Also the PL FF is just a bit of fun amongst friends. It's very rarely mentioned on TV coverage etc, whereas the NFL FF has a life of its own. It's huge.

Anyway my team is:

Tom Brady / CJ Spiller / Ahmad Bradshaw / Julio Jones / Jordy Nelson / Kellen Winslow / Julian Edelman / Andy Dalton / Nate Washington / Jason Snelling / Isiah Pead / James Jones / Heath Miller / David Akers / Chicago Bears

i would trade a wr for a rb


and i would start snelling over bradshaw for the time being



i'm rolling at 2-0 and 1st place right now. huge week from demarco murray helped me stay #1 in points.

10 team keeper league, 2 flex positions


qb: romo
rb: demarco murray, darren mcfadden
wr: calvin, julio
te: tony g
wr/rb: demaryius thomas
wr/rb: mike wallace
def: seattle


bench
rb snelling
rb bilal powell
rb fred jackson
qb rivers
wr stephen hill

RB and TE are the gaps in my team for sure. I've already had two TEs injured so I dont really have a strong starter there. I'm hoping Miller gets more game time over the next few weeks. I know I need to be looking at a trade for a RB, I just haven't quite sorted what I want yet. At least Bradshaw had a great week last week to keep me ticking over.

here is my fantasty team.

Tom Brady
Tom Brady
Tom Brady
Tom Brady
Tom Brady
Tom Brady
Tom Brady
Tom Brady

Bench
Tom Brady
Tom Brady
Tom Brady
Tom Brady
Tom Brady
Wes Welker
Tom Brady
Tom Brady
Tom Brady

i figured you had some TE injuries if winslow was starting. i think heath mill be a better option if he can get 100% healthy because that steelers offense is terrible and they have no redzone threats so Heath could find the endzone quite a bit

if fred jackson is someone available i would pick him up. he is a savior for me every year it seems

i just dropepd bradshaw since they traded for richardson. im not sure what his role is going forward

fan-tasty!! :)

tom brady is honestly my hero

-7th on college depth chart
-works hard to get playin time
-becomes starter
-overlooked by nfl scouts
-drafted 6th round
-frumpy white guy
-backup to bledsoe
-becomes starter thru injury
-plays with enormous chip on shoulder
-wins superbowls
-consistently one of the greats
-bangs the hottest women on earth
-models
-soaks panties while bein a boss qb
-still playin at elite level
-marries mos tpopular supermodel


brb killin myself, will never be as good as brady

hug me, love me, judge me, the only Man that hovers above me, holla

lookin to keep my undefeated fantasy football season alive


do i start romo @ san diego

or

rivers vs dallas


??? thoughts???

Romo @ SD dude, that defense is so bad.

i have romo penciled in but wanted to see others opinions. rivers is havin a great season so far.

also a tough flex decision to make


-mike wallace @ saints
-jason snelling VS pats

havin a hard time with this choice because wallace is wildly inconsistent but playin on the turf this week. one big play and he has a good week. but snelling shares carries but probably gets goalline carries. not sure here

that's a no brainer. Go with Snelling!

im leaning toward snelling especially since atlanta is my favorite team


and ive always loved snelling. he is seriously a very capable starter and has always been good but never got chances.


hey vikings fans, did you guys realize that hott blonde who does college gameday is ponder's wife?? her name is sam ponder, i just now looked it up and connected the obvious dots

Check out his ex-girlfriend. Might be even hotter. Ponder seems to have been gifted with a lot in his life...

I haven't listened to much American Football but I like wha...

not what you guys are talking about..