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Yes | 11 | 91.67% | |
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05-05-2009, 11:54 AM | #1381 (permalink) | |
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05-05-2009, 12:12 PM | #1382 (permalink) |
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I'm mixed on this.
On one hand he influenced shitload of stuff I like, but on the other I hardly ever feel the need to actually listen to him. It's all very well saying he influenced loads of stuff I like , but if I prefer what those other bands did with it rather than what Beefheart did with it, well it doesn't really say much about him. I'll come back to this one.
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05-05-2009, 12:21 PM | #1383 (permalink) |
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..but if he hadn't have been doing those things then those bands wouldn't have anything to start with. I can see your conumdrum though and it shouldn't just be influence alone. The criteria I'm trying to use now with the HOF is influence and whether I actually like the artist as well and if people just don't listen to the artist then you cannot help but dismiss them (as I did with P.I.L- I wanted them but had to be honest in the fact that I don't listen to them).
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05-05-2009, 12:24 PM | #1384 (permalink) |
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Well they would, they'd just have a different influence. Would I like them as much? Maybe I would, maybe I wouldn't.
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05-05-2009, 12:25 PM | #1385 (permalink) | ||
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i'm not suggesting that you should vote for him, just commenting that your statement "what he added to the musical landscape doesn't seem too valuable" is a load of bollocks. which it is. i'm aware you don't like Beefheart. i'm also aware that a great number of musicians (some of which i'm sure you listen to) are influenced by him. i thought that it might be a natural assumption to think that you'd be intrigued by his music. obviously not. Quote:
and yeah, a lot of artists took their spin on his material in completely different directions. although it is sometimes difficult to pick up on those influences (at least without being explicitly told so). apparently he was a primary influence on Jeffrey Lee Pierce and D. Boon, awesome in my book.
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05-05-2009, 05:00 PM | #1387 (permalink) | |
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I can understand people's reasons for not liking him - he is pretty difficult to truly appreciate, and even then he simply isn't for some people. For anyone who's at all curious and has an hour or so to kill, this was posted in his thread in the avante-garde forum - a great documentary about his work. To be honest it was watching this that got me keen enough to give Trout Mask another chance and delve deeper into his discography. |
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05-09-2009, 12:41 AM | #1388 (permalink) | |
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