If You Want To Know Why The Spill Your Guts Thread Was Closed Read On

[GuitarBizarre]

Then colour me new, because I'm not sure I understand your point.

[Urban Hat€monger ?]

Before you joined this place was a mess of 15 year old Green Day fans having dumb arguments with a handful of small genuine music fans. Like I said earlier if it wasn't for people like R-T, Ethan, Big3 and the rest of them insisting this place has some kind of standards to it and introducing things like journals and creative writing and drawing up a proper moderating policy this place probably wouldn't be here now.
And I'm the only one left from that time, And I'm not prepared to see all the hours and hard work they put in go to waste.

If that makes me a bastard so be it.

[James]

Didn't mean to neglect previous moderators. Aside from those already mentioned, Tore and Pedestrian did great stuff for this community and really helped to change it for the better. Doesn't detract at all from the one we have now.

[Aux-In]

Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ?

People like them are the reason this thread exists. And I think some of the newer members don't really get that.

I am new here (just found it within the past few months) but not to the Internet. I understand it's not fun at times to moderate. This site is the most cliquish and trollish that I have seen in awhile, although that could be because it's a fairly small site in comparison. I need more time to take in what's acceptable here.

With that said, I really wouldn't want to see it go down a PG-13, PC road like every other major forum I visit where a lot of humor is considered off-topic. Again, I understand there are fine lines.

[Soulflower]

Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ?

I told you what I felt my shortcomings were and where I could improve. All Janzsoon did was give you a list of jobs I do, If that was what you wanted why didn't you just say?

I added that if you felt I had any faults to add you were welcome to do so.

I don't spend hours of my day making long posts with the intent avoiding your questions, why would anyone do that when they can just ignore them? Any attempts I've made to address you are to answer your questions and clarify things. It's not my fault if you don't like what you are hearing.

I explained in another post why I worded the opening post the way I did, I don't feel deceiving anyone for reasons I already mentioned. You don't like that. OK fine I accept that can we move on now I can't go back in history and change it.

Official note SoulFlower didn't like the first post. OK got that now.

I also offered you the chance to PM me if you ever had a problem, I also told you I've never ignored one member yet.

That's about as best as you're going to get, I'm doing my best to accommodate you and it feels like you're not even giving me a inch and you've already made your mind up and you're not changing it. I genuinely thought my last post to you was an open and honest attempt to thaw things between us and was disappointed that it just seemed to make you feel even stronger against me. I guess I'll just have to resign myself to knowing that nothing I do is going to be good enough for you.

I suggest you deal with another mod from now on.

Well I know this is the best I am going to get from you especially when you pretty much showed me on more than one occasion that you don't care about this forum. You foolishly blame others instead of maturely pointing out errors on your part and things you can do as a moderator to improve it.

What your responses in this thread show is that you can not handle or accept constructive criticism. All you want is for people to kiss you behind and I am sorry I am not going to do that.

It's good to receive constructive criticism and its okay to admit when you are wrong and I see this is a sensitive area for you because you get defensive and start blaming others instead of looking at yourself.

I have not disrespected you at all in this thread and have respectfully expressed criticism and my opinions toward you. So please don't imply that I am insisting "everything you do is wrong" once again I do not have a problem with you and have expressed on more than one occasion that I like you despite your arrogance. (there are only a very few here that I genuinely like and you are one of them).

I would not be going back in forth like this with you if I did not care about your opinions so don't get that twisted.

However, I should haven't to say that to justify my criticism of you as a moderator.

It is very disappointing that you don't want to admit that it was wrong of you to fabricate that first post. What is so hard in saying....

"Yes I was wrong"

"Yes there are some things that I can do to improve my role as a moderator as well and here are these things: ...."

I honestly don't think you insisting vaguely "you can be short sometimes" was a mature and sincere self-critique. If you gave an honest and sincere response, I would have accepted it but honestly... I don't because I think you are better than how you are responding to my criticism in this thread.

If you were to ask me the same question, you wouldn't get a politically correct response like the one you gave but once again I realize the place that I come from with my opinions and insights is very different from the agendas on this site.

No I am not perfect either but I can at least admit when I am wrong and be honest. I see that you are not like that which is sad because I thought you were. Even after someone else pointed this error out to you, you arrogantly deflected it and made excuses.

[Urban Hat€monger ?]

Originally Posted by aux-in

I am new here (just found it within the past few months) but not to the Internet. I understand it's not fun at times to moderate. This site is the most cliquish and trollish that I have seen in awhile, although that could be because it's a fairly small site in comparison. I need more time to take in what's acceptable here.

With that said, I really wouldn't want to see it go down a PG-13, PC road like every other major forum I visit where a lot of humor is considered off-topic. Again, I understand there are fine lines.

Feel free to call me a twat.
Just don't do it in every thread every day.

Hope that helps

[Soulflower]

Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ?

Before you joined this place was a mess of 15 year old Green Day fans having dumb arguments with a handful of small genuine music fans. Like I said earlier if it wasn't for people like R-T, Ethan, Big3 and the rest of them insisting this place has some kind of standards to it and introducing things like journals and creative writing and drawing up a proper moderating policy this place probably wouldn't be here now.
And I'm the only one left from that time, And I'm not prepared to see all the hours and hard work they put in go to waste.

If that makes me a bastard so be it.

This has nothing to do with how the forum is currently ran now. You are still deflecting your faults as a moderator.

You don't solve problems by blaming others when you are in a leadership position in which YOU can make changes.

[RoxyRollah]

Woah Jen I love you.That comment IMO was a bit harsh.
Edit: You have no earthly clue on wheter or not he has actually done anything because you aren't privy to mod conversations.That was a blind stab in the dark boo.

[YorkeDaddy]

Someone that just ignored criticism: "Stop ignoring criticism"

[Urban Hat€monger ?]

No I'm explaining why I moderate the way I do.