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Frownland 09-08-2016 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1742131)
Almost certainly. But that **** happens with non-related legal adults. Should we ban 40-year-olds from marrying 20-year-olds too?

Child grooming is already illegal.

kibbeh 09-08-2016 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1742131)
Almost certainly. But that **** happens with non-related legal adults. Should we ban 40-year-olds from marrying 20-year-olds too?

now thats ****ed up. of course not.

The Batlord 09-08-2016 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1742133)
Child grooming is already illegal.

Since it's not something you can generally prove without the testimony of the child/former child (and even then I don't know), then it's not really a relevant point.

kibbeh 09-08-2016 03:44 PM

um, a 20 year old dating a 40 year old or even older is perfectly fine.

Frownland 09-08-2016 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1742143)
Since it's not something you can generally prove without the testimony of the child/former child (and even then I don't know), then it's not really a relevant point.

It's pretty easy to prove when it's the parent.

The Batlord 09-08-2016 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by pansy gayboy 69 (Post 1742147)
um, a 20 year old dating a 40 year old or even older is perfectly fine.

Why? Could it not be predatory? Could a naive and emotionally immature 20-year-old not be victimized by a scumbag 40-year-old?

kibbeh 09-08-2016 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1742149)
Why? Could it not be predatory? Could a naive and emotionally immature 20-year-old not be victimized by a scumbag 40-year-old?

well, it depends. they would both be legally adults anyway, so why does it matter? i would totally date a 40 year old.

The Batlord 09-08-2016 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by pansy gayboy 69 (Post 1742151)
well, it depends. they would both be legally adults anyway, so why does it matter? i would totally date a 40 year old.

Exactly why we should butt out of those two's lives. They live in Oklahoma. What were we expecting in the first place?

Frownland 09-08-2016 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1742154)
Exactly why we should butt out of those two's lives. They live in Oklahoma. What were we expecting in the first place?

That's even worse than the marriages. They should make it illegal to live in Oklahoma.

The Batlord 09-08-2016 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1742156)
That's even worse than the marriages. They should make it illegal to live in Oklahoma.

They should make it illegal to leave Oklahoma.

kibbeh 09-08-2016 04:08 PM

you're comparing a 20 year old dating a 40 year old to a mom marrying her daughter?????? lol.

The Batlord 09-08-2016 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by pansy gayboy 69 (Post 1742166)
you're comparing a 20 year old dating a 40 year old to a mom marrying her daughter?????? lol.

I'm not trying to say that one is better than the other, or that either is okay or not okay, I'm just saying that real life is weird and hard to explain, and that **** is none of the government's business.

djchameleon 09-08-2016 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1742104)
Gross or not, why is it a felony? So long as everyone is of legal age then what's the point of society poking their nose where it doesn't belong?

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1742168)
I'm not trying to say that one is better than the other, or that either is okay or not okay, I'm just saying that real life is weird and hard to explain, and that **** is none of the government's business.

This law is like one of those old laws that's been on the books forever. They have a specific name but I can't think of it.

Yes, it shouldn't be the government's business but the government still has some wacky laws on the books from long ago that need to be fixed.

The Batlord 09-08-2016 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1742178)
This law is like one of those old laws that's been on the books forever. They have a specific name but I can't think of it.

Yes, it shouldn't be the government's business but the government still has some wacky laws on the books from long ago that need to be fixed.

Like polygamy being illegal. Sure it can be ****ed, but in the end it's their ****ing business. Just make sure nothing untoward is happening to anyone under eighteen.

And I think they're called blue laws... yup, blue laws. I checked.

djchameleon 09-08-2016 04:56 PM

yeah and all the sodomy laws that are still on the books along with a recent one that was over turned about marrying off 13 year olds to older men which is so ****ed up.

We don't live in those times anymore where you can sell your underage daughter for farm land and livestock.

Even when we could do that it was still a ****ed up practice.

For example in your redneck area of the woods, Batty.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...=facebook-post

The Batlord 09-08-2016 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1742183)
yeah and all the sodomy laws that are still on the books along with a recent one that was over turned about marrying off 13 year olds to older men which is so ****ed up.

We don't live in those times anymore where you can sell your underage daughter for farm land and livestock.

Even when we could do that it was still a ****ed up practice.

For example in your redneck area of the woods, Batty.

Virginia introduces law to stop 12-year-old girls getting married | The Independent

I live in a gen-u-wine urban area. A lot of us don't even have accents. Most people like Jews. And nobody here is more attracted to their relatives than is sexy.

Frownland 09-08-2016 05:09 PM

Incest prohibition=wacky law

William_the_Bloody 09-10-2016 11:46 PM

F)ck me! What's up with white America?!? This opiate crisis spreading through the US is rough!

http://i66.tinypic.com/30v0qpi.jpg

The story behind the photo of two heroin users and their four-year-old child | The Independent

A deadly crisis: mapping the spread of America's drug overdose epidemic | Global | The Guardian

djchameleon 09-11-2016 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody (Post 1743003)
F)ck me! What's up with white America?!? This opiate crisis spreading through the US is rough!

Dial back your America hate for a bit. That's shithole Ohio, I kind of expect that shit to go on in that one state.

William_the_Bloody 09-11-2016 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1743027)
Dial back your America hate for a bit. That's shithole Ohio, I kind of expect that shit to go on in that one state.

Dial back my American hate? Do you see everything through a political lens?

I'm generally concerned on what's going down there, this opiate crisis seems to be hitting working class communities quite hard.

Frownland 09-12-2016 08:34 AM

Opiates are mad popular in American rural areas.

State Data | Drug Overdose | CDC Injury Center

William_the_Bloody 09-12-2016 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1743324)
Opiates are mad popular in American rural areas.

State Data | Drug Overdose | CDC Injury Center

It's starting to hit Canada bad to. Were dealing with this new synthetic drug called fentanyl. Apparently it's 10 times more powerful than heroin. It has people dropping off left, right and center.

In fact its so popular that there is literally no heroin left on the streets of Vancouver.

Little if any heroin left in Vancouver, all fentanyl: drug advocates

Fentanyl blamed for unprecedented number of B.C. overdose deaths | Vancouver Sun

Frownland 09-12-2016 09:29 PM

What I don't get is how they're selling stronger products in the place of regular strength drugs at the same price. If people knew what it was they'd pay more for it and use it more wisely.

Chula Vista 09-12-2016 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1743324)
Opiates are mad popular in American rural areas.

It's ridiculously bad in New England. Especially in Maine and New Hampshire.

Edit: Just clicked your link which bares it out.

William_the_Bloody 09-12-2016 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1743530)
What I don't get is how they're selling stronger products in the place of regular strength drugs at the same price. If people knew what it was they'd pay more for it and use it more wisely.

I'm no expert on the topic, but in regards to fentanyl, I think its just easier to manufacture than heroin, competition in the illicite market keeps the price down.

Looks like you guys have the problem to. It seem like every decade their is a new potent drug.

https://thinkprogress.org/americas-o...1a3#.947l6p3hx

djchameleon 09-12-2016 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody (Post 1743529)
It's starting to hit Canada bad to. Were dealing with this new synthetic drug called fentanyl. Apparently it's 10 times more powerful than heroin. It has people dropping off left, right and center.

In fact its so popular that there is literally no heroin left on the streets of Vancouver.

Little if any heroin left in Vancouver, all fentanyl: drug advocates

Fentanyl blamed for unprecedented number of B.C. overdose deaths | Vancouver Sun

K2 is also another problem that has cropped up lately. Supposedly it's only synthetic marijuana but that shit makes people do crazy things.

This dude took K2 and took off his clothes and started running naked in the streets. He jumped up on top of a car and said "King Kong ain't got shit on me"

Of course the cops had to wrangle him and chase him down a bit but it's pretty bad here in NY. Not sure about other areas.

Frownland 09-12-2016 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1743547)
K2 is also another problem that has cropped up lately. Supposedly it's only synthetic marijuana but that shit makes people do crazy things.

This dude took K2 and took off his clothes and started running naked in the streets. He jumped up on top of a car and said "King Kong ain't got shit on me"

Of course the cops had to wrangle him and chase him down a bit but it's pretty bad here in NY. Not sure about other areas.

That's spice. K2 is safe(ish), but it has been made illegal. The media often makes it seem like they're synonyms. Spice is kind of a cocktail of herbs made to conform with whatever regulations are implemented, which sometimes means extra marshmallow leaves and catnip, but other times it means the addition of a deadly untested designer drug. Also the "synthetic marijuana" tag is utter bs and I think that reporting about spice by that euphemism only makes the problem worse because it draws in more users who can't use marijuana for whatever reason.

I've ****ed around with spice. It can be fun (and addictive) but it can also be like a bad acid trip without all of the meaning.

Justthefacts 09-12-2016 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1743548)
That's spice. K2 is safe(ish), but it has been made illegal. The media often makes it seem like they're synonyms. Spice is kind of a cocktail of herbs made to conform with whatever regulations are implemented, which sometimes means extra marshmallow leaves and catnip, but other times it means the addition of a deadly untested designer drug. Also the "synthetic marijuana" tag is utter bs and I think that reporting about spice by that euphemism only makes the problem worse because it draws in more users who can't use marijuana for whatever reason.

I've ****ed around with spice. It can be fun (and addictive) but it can also be like a bad acid trip without all of the meaning.

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djchameleon 09-13-2016 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1743548)
That's spice. K2 is safe(ish), but it has been made illegal. The media often makes it seem like they're synonyms. Spice is kind of a cocktail of herbs made to conform with whatever regulations are implemented, which sometimes means extra marshmallow leaves and catnip, but other times it means the addition of a deadly untested designer drug. Also the "synthetic marijuana" tag is utter bs and I think that reporting about spice by that euphemism only makes the problem worse because it draws in more users who can't use marijuana for whatever reason.

I've ****ed around with spice. It can be fun (and addictive) but it can also be like a bad acid trip without all of the meaning.

So what is it essentially? Is it dust/herb/leaves? Do you smoke it? Inject? what? I'm a noob when it comes to certain drugs.

Frownland 09-13-2016 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1743588)
So what is it essentially? Is it dust/herb/leaves? Do you smoke it? Inject? what? I'm a noob when it comes to certain drugs.

You smoke it. HU-210, HU-211, JWH-018, JWH-073, JWH-200, and CP-47,497 are common synthetic ingredients, which is a liquid or dust that they put on a smokable herb. There are also natural spice ingredients like kava, blue lotus, passionflower stamens, catnip, and pretty much anything else that they can slip in there if they feel it's appropriate.

djchameleon 09-13-2016 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1743591)
You smoke it. HU-210, HU-211, JWH-018, JWH-073, JWH-200, and CP-47,497 are common synthetic ingredients, which is a liquid or dust that they put on a smokable herb. There are also natural spice ingredients like kava, blue lotus, passionflower stamens, catnip, and pretty much anything else that they can slip in there if they feel it's appropriate.

so that's what causes it to be dangerous when other things are mixed into it and end up creating reactions like I have witness.

Frownland 09-13-2016 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1743592)
so that's what causes it to be dangerous when other things are mixed into it and end up creating reactions like I have witness.

Yup. People should research what they're smoking because it varies from brand to brand. If you can't find any ingredients list on the spice you're looking at, avoid it.

The Batlord 09-13-2016 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1743591)
You smoke it. HU-210, HU-211, JWH-018, JWH-073, JWH-200, and CP-47,497 are common synthetic ingredients, which is a liquid or dust that they put on a smokable herb. There are also natural spice ingredients like kava, blue lotus, passionflower stamens, catnip, and pretty much anything else that they can slip in there if they feel it's appropriate.

I kinda want to try kava.

Frownland 09-13-2016 09:46 AM

It's nice. Blue lotus is the **** too.

William_the_Bloody 09-13-2016 07:06 PM

As long as you guys stay away from the hard stuff it's all good.

Everybody I've known who dabbled in hard drugs went down the tubes at one point or another. If your going to do dabble make it short and sweet, and stay the f)ck away from crystal meth.

DwnWthVwls 09-13-2016 07:48 PM

Smoked k2 once and never again. It just gave me anxiety and my heart was racing, and i took the smallest bowl hit of my life.. Meanwhile my brothers friends were gasmasking it, so yeh..

Blank. 09-13-2016 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1743994)
Smoked k2 once and never again. It just gave me anxiety and my heart was racing, and i took the smallest bowl hit of my life.. Meanwhile my brothers friends were gasmasking it, so yeh..

Some friends of mine smoked K2. They wound up in the hospital from it.

djchameleon 09-14-2016 05:38 AM

K2 is no joke

Oriphiel 09-14-2016 06:43 AM

It's almost as dangerous as K9.

*high-fives innerspaceboy*

Janszoon 09-14-2016 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1744086)
K2 is no joke

http://assets.hulu.com/shows/key_art_k2.jpg


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