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Frownland 09-14-2016 09:01 AM

K2 itself is not that bad people. Even when it was still legal, it was always paired with an assortment of other herbs and chemicals. That's where the dangerous element comes in.

Janszoon 09-14-2016 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1744106)
K2 itself is not that bad people. Even when it was still legal, it was always paired with an assortment of other herbs and chemicals. That's where the dangerous element comes in.

Its extreme weather and high altitude are no joke!

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 09-14-2016 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1744109)
Its extreme weather and high altitude are no joke!

The adrenaline alone could kill you!

Frownland 09-14-2016 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1744109)
Its extreme weather and high altitude are no joke!

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1744120)
The adrenaline alone could kill you!

This is exactly what I was talking about. K2 itself isn't dangerous, but the weather and adrenaline rushes that can come with it are. People associate the two because the media blames deaths and injuries on K2 itself without mentioning what actually did the crime.

Key 09-14-2016 04:50 PM

Canada Just Legalized Heroin to Control Drug Addiction – High Times

djchameleon 09-14-2016 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1744272)

Not that unbelieveable to me. There is another country that did the same thing and it worked very well.

South American country but can't think of the name right now off the top of my head.

Key 09-14-2016 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1744275)
Not that unbelieveable to me. There is another country that did the same thing and it worked very well.

South American country but can't think of the name right now off the top of my head.

Am I ignorant than? I thought heroin was one of the worst drugs you can get latched onto. How is it possible to kick an addiction by getting addicted to something else? It doesn't make sense.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 09-14-2016 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1744275)
Not that unbelieveable to me. There is another country that did the same thing and it worked very well.

South American country but can't think of the name right now off the top of my head.

The law thus allows the consumption of any substance (with the exception of cannabis, which now has its own rules) while penalising possession for purposes other than consumption. It does not, however, establish a legal mechanism for obtaining such substances or set maximum quantities for personal use – this is left to the judge's discretion.



Drug Laws in Uruguay

djchameleon 09-14-2016 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1744277)
Am I ignorant than? I thought heroin was one of the worst drugs you can get latched onto. How is it possible to kick an addiction by getting addicted to something else? It doesn't make sense.

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1744283)
The law thus allows the consumption of any substance (with the exception of cannabis, which now has its own rules) while penalising possession for purposes other than consumption. It does not, however, establish a legal mechanism for obtaining such substances or set maximum quantities for personal use – this is left to the judge's discretion.



Drug Laws in Uruguay

It was Portugal that decriminalized all drugs back in 2001.
https://www.thefix.com/content/decri...en-years-later

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However, as Greenwald concludes: "By freeing its citizens from the fear of prosecution and imprisonment for drug usage, Portugal has dramatically improved its ability to encourage drug addicts to avail themselves of treatment. The resources that were previously devoted to prosecuting and imprisoning drug addicts are now available to provide treatment programs to addicts." Under the perfect system, treatment would also be voluntary, but as an alternative to jail, mandatory treatment save money. But for now, "the majority of EU states have rates that are double and triple the rate for post-decriminalization Portugal," Greenwald says.

Key 09-14-2016 08:13 PM

^That doesn't answer my question. How does it keep people from getting addicted?

Exo 09-14-2016 08:22 PM

When I was in Portugal I didn't see a lot of people DOING drugs, just a lot of people SELLING drugs.

djchameleon 09-14-2016 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1744297)
^That doesn't answer my question. How does it keep people from getting addicted?

It doesn't. Did you read the link?

Legalizing isn't supposed to keep people from getting addicted. It ends up being able to provide people with more treatment once they are addicted or have been addicted.

Frownland 09-14-2016 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1744297)
^That doesn't answer my question. How does it keep people from getting addicted?

A reduced chance of dying in a way that doesn't physically harm other people.

In America, it makes sense to me because the prison systems are so ****ed. I have very little knowledge of Canadian prisons though, because if they had an effective rehabilitation system, that might shift my opinion on it a little bit.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 09-15-2016 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1744331)
A reduced chance of dying in a way that doesn't physically harm other people.

In America, it makes sense to me because the prison systems are so ****ed. I have very little knowledge of Canadian prisons though, because if they had an effective rehabilitation system, that might shift my opinion on it a little bit.

I can't seem to find info on that anywhere. All I managed to come across was this site here which basically just puts Canada in as a middle of the road drug using population. Lower percentages than US/UK/Australia but more than Germany/Sweden/etc.

The Batlord 09-15-2016 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1744408)
I can't seem to find info on that anywhere. All I managed to come across was this site here which basically just puts Canada in as a middle of the road drug using population. Lower percentages than US/UK/Australia but more than Germany/Sweden/etc.

I'd assume that living in Canada would be enough to turn anyone into an addict, but I guess they can't grow anything up there.

Frownland 09-15-2016 10:50 AM

BC weed is some of the best **** in the world dude.

The Batlord 09-15-2016 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1744504)
BC weed is some of the best **** in the world dude.

How?! Isn't it a tropical(ish) plant?

Frownland 09-15-2016 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1744506)
How?! Isn't it a tropical(ish) plant?

Idunno. Probably hydroponics, basement growing, greenhouses, or well done outdoor placement.

The Batlord 09-15-2016 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1744513)
Idunno. Probably hydroponics, basement growing, greenhouses, or well done outdoor placement.

But, aside from potential differences in local growing culture, shouldn't hydroponic weed not be affected by regional differences?

Frownland 09-15-2016 11:33 AM

You just answered your own question. It makes a big difference.

The Batlord 09-15-2016 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1744576)
You just answered your own question. It makes a big difference.

So we should go find BC Canadians* to smoke with cause they're awesome potheads?

*British Columbian Canadians, not Canadians from before 0 CE.

Frownland 09-15-2016 11:47 AM

If you're going to be using CE, you should be using BCE too.

The Batlord 09-15-2016 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1744603)
If you're going to be using CE, you should be using BCE too.

Whenever someone says "BC" I'm gonna start assuming they're talking about Body Count, the 2,016-year-old band.

Frownland 09-15-2016 12:12 PM

Years with commas are very off putting.

The Batlord 09-15-2016 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1744618)
Years with commas are very off putting.

It wasn't a year. It was a number of years.

Frownland 09-15-2016 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1744623)
It wasn't a year. It was a number of years.

I'm aware of that.

The Batlord 09-15-2016 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1744632)
I'm aware of that.

So shut the **** up.

Frownland 09-15-2016 12:42 PM

Do you disagree with that?

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 09-15-2016 12:42 PM

Yeah, Frown is right. I don't really smoke anymore but when I did the stuff from BC was #1. It puts you on another level.

The Batlord 09-15-2016 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1744645)
Do you disagree with that?

That numbers that aren't years don't require commas? Go **** yourself.

Frownland 09-15-2016 12:54 PM

You've been saying that ever since you joined in 2,011.

The Batlord 09-15-2016 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1744662)
You've been saying that ever since you joined in 2,011.

Kind of hard to tell you to go **** yourself when you weren't even a member when I joined.

Key 09-15-2016 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1744687)
Kind of hard to tell you to go **** yourself when you weren't even a member when I joined.

Now you know how I feel.

The Batlord 09-15-2016 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1744750)
Now you know how I feel.

Statistically we were the same member in the same two years. Can't argue with math.

Lonesome Hobo 09-16-2016 05:24 AM

Read this yesterday. Quite a shocking story from a few miles up the road from me.
Man mutilated testicles and gouged his own eyes out while in prison - Derry Journal

Oriphiel 09-16-2016 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Lonesome Hobo (Post 1744933)
Read this yesterday. Quite a shocking story from a few miles up the road from me.
Man mutilated testicles and gouged his own eyes out while in prison - Derry Journal

Maybe he opened the Lament Configuration?

The Batlord 09-16-2016 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Lonesome Hobo (Post 1744933)
Read this yesterday. Quite a shocking story from a few miles up the road from me.
Man mutilated testicles and gouged his own eyes out while in prison - Derry Journal

He'd be better off sewing his ******* shut.

CJ21 09-16-2016 07:56 PM

Two women were basically running a kindergarten fight club and snapchatting it recently.

Well, I can't post hyperlinks yet so google "Daycare teachers ran toddler fight club"

The Batlord 09-17-2016 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by CJ21 (Post 1745240)
Two women were basically running a kindergarten fight club and snapchatting it recently.

Well, I can't post hyperlinks yet so google "Daycare teachers ran toddler fight club"

https://cdn.meme.am/instances/400x/50969495.jpg

Thelonious Monkey 09-17-2016 08:04 AM

They broke the first rule of Fight Club.


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