Nice to see some brave members not conform to the "group think" that most succumb to on this forum.

The officer could be innocent. The problem is that nobody besides the grand jury and the higher ups know why this may be the case. Everybody in Ferguson, who are pissed as it is, were just told no. Nope. Sorry, we can't tell you yet have a fun night. It's irresponsible. People are going to die before the truth gets out, whatever it may be.

This is also all the more reason to have cameras on every police officer in America. Times have changed.

holy ****ing hell

Michael Brown /Ferguson Riot

all I see is a bunch of racist topics. I don't get it.

I stopped reading after I saw the word nigger for what felt like the 60th time. Really, world? Really?

Who said that word?

OMG that is horrible

What word?

Live stream from Ferguson
Livestreams from Ferguson - Argus Streaming News

jesus christ, gun shots at 8minutes in?

sounds like they're having everyone stay at home...

i keep thinking it's a clip from an incredibly realistic docudrama and then realize nope it's actually happening you dumbass

Thats the stuff they dont want yall to see on CNN, Fox etc..

That link shows the truth.

Those cops are pigs, **** them.

Protests in New York
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Protests in LA
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Protests = fine. Carry on.

Riots and arson = shoot to kill.

Protests in Palestine
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the hell is wrong with you

rights, arson, looting, etc aren't excusable but killing people for it? no wonder you don't seem to have a problem with Brown's death.

But then I get attacked when I insist this forum is racially insensitive, well dammit comments like that is why I ****ing feel this way.

It's the damned world, unfortunately. The forum just happens to be in it.

Anyone wanna hang out on Mars? Just let this whole Earth-is-doomed-we're-never-gonna-make-it-as-a-species thing kinda die out for a while, then hop back in when things are better and/or everyone is dead?

nah the robots that rule this planet by then will **** you up before you even come out of orbit.

"If you loot, we shoot" is the mantra I've heard from business owners. Everyone has the right to protect his property. Yes, shoot to kill. There's plenty of precedence for such action. Any home invader who is shot and killed while inside someone's home, for example, is justifiably slain.

Regarding racism etc, this idea of shooting people who are destroying or invading your personal property has nothing to do with race. White and black and all colors in between should be put down if they loot.

You really feel that theft should be a capital offense? That seems a bit medieval.

Tbh.

It's not a simple question. Shoplifting? No. Theft + vandalism + potential violence? Maybe. If I own a small family run convenience store, and a bunch of rabid thugs start busting the place up and I feel threatened for me and my family? Much different story.

Of course not. But just like with home invasions, property owners should shoot those who break in.

Theft shouldn't be a capital offense after the fact but a person should be able to use deadly force to protect one's property.

I disgaree. Your property is not worth more than a person's life.

Anyone watch the interview with the police officer yet?

It's the middle of the night and you are sleeping. You are awoken by the sound of broken glass and low voices downstairs. Do you assume they are only their to take your TV? Do you hide in your closet hoping for the best? If you are married what about your wife? Do you worry about her being victimized?

I'll grab my pistol and loudly chamber a round and then yell out that I'm armed and unless they split now I'm going to shoot on sight.

Idk, I've never been in that situation, and I don't own a gun. I'd like to think I would be ready to protect the lives of my family but I'd rather get robbed and call the cops than take the life of another person.

I don't know. I'm pretty attached to my comic books.

You say "of course not", then immediately jump back to saying that looters should be killed. I'm confused. Please note that I'm not saying people don't have a right to defend themselves, I just disagree with the idea that the default response to looting should be death.

Looters should be met with lethal force, if necessary.

Would any of you seriously be able to live with the fact you took another life? I know for a fact I couldn't.

not a chance

Depends on the circumstances. I had people break into my room once and while terrifying beyond further description it couldn't, in that scenario, have been justified to shoot them. I don't have valuables, nor do I really want any. But, if any kind of violence were a threat to me or someone else in the household I would without doubt fight back with anything I could if I felt the situation could be overturned. Not with intent to kill, though. But if that was the result I would be able to cope with it. Depending on the circumstance I might not feel too bad about it. Possessions are one thing, I don't particularly care about that... but loved ones? Don't even. Ever.

my gut tells me i wouldn't hesitate to shoot someone i thought was a serious threat. like morally i really don't think it's bad. but i've had soldiers and criminals alike who have had to kill people tell me that everyone thinks they will be clint eastwood in the heat of the moment but when it actually happens to you then it hits you with what shooting someone actually means. so unless you've been tested like that it's naive to say how you would react one way or another but i don't fault people who shoot intruders. people know by now that kind of thing can get you shot. so anyone who invades homes is playing with fire and shouldn't expect too much sympathy when they get burned.

In reality when it comes down to it most people wouldn't who say they would. I do think that people have the right to shoot and possibly kill them for looting and posing danger to their lives/livelihood, though. Do I think that's ideal? No.

I reckon I could kill someone if somebody I love was threatened, but it would ruin my life. I'd probably end up killing myself afterwards. I can't cope well with guilt, and I think of myself as a pacifist.

my gut really tells me that i definitely could live with it if i knew or thought they were a threat but like i said, never been there so it's impossible to really know. i find it really hard to imagine myself going suicidal over guilt.

Honestly, if it was some thug stealing my stuff it would bother me much more that they still lived. My place was broken into before. If I could inflict the death penalty on whoever did it it would be to my delight.