Tut. Would never have happened in Saddam's day!

I think watching the video footage of Hussein's hanging when I was in sixth grade was the first time I realized how brutal war actually was.

When the Shīʿītes hit the fan.

Alex Jones' legal troubles have been a ****ing roller coaster but this was insane. Jones might actually do time for perjury in the greatest own goal in legal history.

Sandy Hook family attorney exposes Alex Jones' dishonesty during brutal cross-examination

I've only read some of the things he's said on air. Everyone has a right to an opinion, and he takes full advantage.

The Great Satan indeed. And US stays quiet, whereas if this were the other way around...
Israeli strike kills Jihadi leader, along with civilians, including a five-year-old girl

Thought he was getting away with a mere 4 million....

News Alert: A jury finds Infowars conspiracy theorist Alex Jones must pay $45.2 million in punitive damages to the parents of a Sandy Hook shooting victim


A Texas jury has decided to penalize Alex Jones with $45.2 million in punitive damages in a lawsuit filed by the parents of Sandy Hook shooting victim Jesse Lewis.

The award, which the judge could reduce, came one day after the jury settled on $4.1 million in compensatory damages.

The judge doesn't seem too impressed by Alex's perjuries so here's hoping she doesn't reduce it. And this is the first of I believe three Sandy Hook cases breathing down his neck so here's hoping he gets cleaned out. ****ing loser.

I was surprised when I saw his punishment. That's one hell of a fine. Perhaps it will shut some people up?

Probably not. Jones will be appealing it for years. The only real hope is that his reputation, and the other masters of alternative facts with him, will be forever reduced to pariah status.

Yeah, I guess you're right. The appeal thing didn't occur to me. My fingers are crossed that this decision will act as a deterrent to people who think like that.

Haven't seen anyone post this breaking audiophile news yet...

Yesterday, Washington Post published a piece titled, "How a Phoenix record store owner set the audiophile world on fire: MoFi Records claimed its expensive reissues were purely analog reproductions. It had been deceiving its customer base for years."

The news came from a YouTuber who on July 14th and 20th posted the explosive claim, which Mo-Fi later confirmed.

The article notes:

"By the end of 2011, 60 percent of its vinyl releases incorporated DSD. All but one of the reissues as part of its One-Step series, which include $125 box set editions of Santana, Carole King and the Eagles, have used that technology. Going forward, all MoFi cutting will incorporate DSD."

The original thread on the Steve Hoffman Forum from July 14 is up to 694 pages as of Aug 6th with audiophiles weighing in on the story.

So what do you think? Does this news in any way dissuade you from investing in Mo-Fi releases? Or are you of the mind that DSD does not compromise the integrity of the output?

Alec Jones is a mentally unstable ******* and I think his opinions are very wrong and very stupid.

But I'm uncomfortable with the idea that someone told what they believe was the truth- and now has to pay millions of dollars because of it. Is there maybe some legal mumbo jumbo about how this is anything other than that? Because the punitive damages would imply he intentionally lied. And I believe he believes what he says.

Alex Jones says every mass shooting is a false flag cause he wants to protect the 2nd Amendment, not cause he thinks any of this **** is true. He'll say crazy **** or make predictions one day and never reverence it again cause he knows it isn't true but it was convenient for his far right narrative on that particular day. He is the lowest form of scum.

Idk dude you ever watch him? He's like - certifiable. He's totally crazy. I think he believes this ****.

Is that what this trial is anyways though? He's being charged for being a liar? Because oy vey what a can of worms, I have a lot of people I'd like to put on trial. Some of them even knew damn well they were lying.

I think this whole fiasco has been a weird talking point because the guy sucks. And those poor parents, and my god those poor kids. And it makes you want to punish him.

But every court case is a potential precedent, and without a better explanation for my layman brain, I'm not comfortable with this one.

The jury obviously believed he lied intentionally. Otherwise they couldn't have nailed him the way they did. The judge could lower the damages, but seeing how Jones alienated her as well, I think that could be a stretch.

Surely the point is that, whether you believe it or not, you can't go around spreading **** like this without proper evidence and backup. I don't think your conviction that it's true, or that you personally believe it, matters: you can't just go ****ting on the deaths of kids and their parents' memories without facing the consequences. I don't think the fine was large enough: ****er should have got jail time. **** him and his whole unhinged ****ing cadre of followers.

He's nuts but he's also clearly faking all those weird outbursts for effect. He is not a good actor.

And he's being sued for defamation cause he called the parents crisis actors, says the kids never died, had a whacked out fake journalist stalk the parents, and essentially sicced his neo-Nazi fans on them. I mean not even essentially, he reported the address of one of the parents on-air.

It absolutely sucks that the families, many still grieving, are caught in the middle. The sooner the media and the law can close the book on this, the better.

These are the kinds of charges I can get behind, and these are the things i didn't know. I thought he was just running his mouth. Something I feel very strongly should always be protected.

Editing to add - I'll be looking into Wolfgang Halbig some more. Not following why Alex Jones is on trial instead of that guy. I assume he was as well at some point...

This is not a criminal trial for harassment, this is a civil trial for defamation, because Alex defamed those parents and their children for years on a nationally syndicated radio show.

Ehhhh still think defamation should involve an intentional malice or lie.

Anyways I like Legal Eagle for this kind of thing. Just watched his summary of the initial ruling. Basically Jones didn't comply with discovery several times hence a default judgement... a jury didn't determine anything except value of damages. He did this to himself.

I mean have YOU ever actually listened to Alex Jones? Beyond Youtube clips screaming about gay frogs? It can be easy to think he's just a crank if that's where you get your idea of him from. Dude's a malicious grifter.

And I go for the Knowledge Fight podcast. It covers all Alex's daily shows and debunks his nonsense. One of the hosts was at the deposition that came before this trial as an expert witness (or something) for the plaintiff's attorneys cause there probably isn't a sane person alive who's as much of an Alex Jones expert.

Hear hear. This should be in the Good news thread.

Not that it matters, but I wonder how he'll pay off his fine? I doubt he's worth that much, despite all of the crap he sells. I remember seeing a bit on him on John Oliver's show.

I think we found out he's worth about 150 million maybe more.

Really? I'm surprised.

Gofundme?

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Alex Jones is my favorite American.

Is this because they hate Mark Cuban and his new drug company selling drugs at cost? It's just a guess. I only learned about his company a few weeks ago.

Weak.

He's better than ****in Jon Stewart.

Why would you want to **** Jon Stewart? Or Alex Jones, come to think of it?

I doubt if it has anything to do with Mark Cuban. The pharmacy companies have been gouging the public for decades here and some Dems at least have been trying to address it for years. As for Cuban, if he is selling drugs at cost, great.

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It was just a guess. I know Cuban isn't that well liked by many. I figured he had some enemies on Capitol Hill.

I knew about the gouging (Bernie's trip to Canada to buy insulin was well publicized). Fingers crossed that this offers relief to people needing medicine.

Sigh. With the Republican party cozying up to Victor Orban, a fascist who seized power through soft power bureaucratic machinations I should think the Dems would see the republicans as an actual threat and not just as opposition, but even with this I don't have any faith they're taking that threat seriously. Even if they arrest Trump they'll probably just pin everything on him and try to pretend everything's fine. Give me some god damn mass arrests already.