Off Colour Jokes and Why You're a Plebe for Using them

~~Cuthbert~~ · 07-23-2013, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mojo

I do know what you mean here but for the most part, I didn't see it that way. I actually think that other countries seem to be quicker offended etc than we are and when it comes to things like Muamba having a heart attack, and Petrov getting cancer, all the tributes at Villa Park etc I wouldn't be so quick to take issue with it. I think, at its core, it's a good thing. It's a normal, decent way for people top react. If we do anything here, as a rule, we maybe just drag it out longer than we need to.

I'm a Villa fan as you know, I actually go to the games and I take issue with it. It doesn't need to be done every game.

If Dave from work is ill do you write 'Get well soon Dave' on a shirt and lift it up when you execute a business deal? Fuck no, it's all for other people to see, that's why it's cringey. If you care, donate some money to a cancer charity or something.

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I think what happened to Muamba was a shock. For a football fan, you dont like to witness that happen on TV, and it's natural to want to wish him well. We all pay to watch football and footballers, and for all they **** we give them, I think its natural to make a connection like that with one of them when something like that happens. To pay a tribute or whatever. Same with Petrov. The man has cancer. That isn't a nice scenario. However, how long is Villa Park gonna continue the tributes in the 19th minute? They can't keep it up forever, can they?

See, this is the thing. Most people had never heard of him yet rushed to Twitter to show everyone how much they care about it. It's false. I mentioned some no mark celebrity and the Gaddafi tweet before, same principle. It's like a competition to see who can grieve the most.

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We maybe drag things on, when its probably time to move on, or else we arent just responding like decent people, we are dwelling in something unneccessarily. Look at Hillsborough. And look at the fans who would take my legs for even daring to mention it unless it's a completely, unmistakeably complimentary and praising way.

lol

Liverpool fans like to give out death threats on social media websites and stalk your online profiles if you dare to mention Hillsborough in any other light than what their Justice campaigners say

Arya Stark · 07-23-2013, 01:46 PM

@ 216 I'm sure you're trolling but people like you are the reason this is a problem.

~~Sansa Stark~~ · 07-23-2013, 01:47 PM

No, it's just Dirty. If it doesn't have to do with meathead white boys its gay, remember

Arya Stark · 07-23-2013, 01:49 PM

That's making fun of the situation, not really his death.

It's not saying "We hope the player is dead." It would be different if it did.

The same way there's a difference between a joke about raping someone and a joke about the rape culture.

It's not attacking anyone specific, it's attacking an idea.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 07-23-2013, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by AwwSugar

That's making fun of the situation, not really his death.

People didn't react to it like that though, which is my point. Twitter anger as Manchester United fanzine Red Issue takes aim at Fabrice Muamba 'grief junkies' - Manchester Evening News

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It's not saying "We hope the player is dead." It would be different if it did.

The same way there's a difference between a joke about raping someone and a joke about the rape culture.

Is saying this even a joke though? & as for the 2nd sentence, both of those are jokes, as long as it's a joke, no problem.

Not trying to be a twat or anything, I hear what you're saying. Just posting my opinion.

Arya Stark · 07-23-2013, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Fluffy Kittens

People didn't react to it like that though, which is my point. Twitter anger as Manchester United fanzine Red Issue takes aim at Fabrice Muamba 'grief junkies' - Manchester Evening News

Is saying this even a joke though? & as for the 2nd sentence, both of those are jokes, as long as it's a joke, no problem.

Not trying to be a twat or anything, I hear what you're saying. Just posting my opinion.

People are going to over react, react, and under react, but I think morality is the issue here. if something ACTUALLY is ****ed up, why is someone saying it?

if that cover offended the player or the family or close friends, maybe it shouldn't have been said. Why is it okay to say something about someone and get all butthurt when they're offended?

I'm not talking about you, now, I'm talking in general.

It really pisses me off that people will blame ME for being offended by something even though they're the one who said the offensive thing. If it's like about McDonald's and I get offended, that's one thing. but if it's about something that happened to ME or someone I love, why do you get to go around making jokes?

~~Cuthbert~~ · 07-23-2013, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by AwwSugar

It really pisses me off that people will blame ME for being offended by something even though they're the one who said the offensive thing. If it's like about McDonald's and I get offended, that's one thing. but if it's about something that happened to ME or someone I love, why do you get to go around making jokes?

I know you're not talking about me it's cool.

Offence is subjective, people are offended by different things. As I said, every joke is at the expense of someone somewhere. People can make jokes, they can't be expected to know what will offend every person they're telling the joke to, it's not the joke teller's fault if someone gets offended because that particular joke is close to home. If they did it to offend, fine, if not, no biggie.

LiveLeak.com - Steve Hughes - What's wrong with being offended?

Arya Stark · 07-23-2013, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Fluffy Kittens

I know you're not talking about me it's cool.

Offence is subjective, people are offended by different things. As I said, every joke is at the expense of someone somewhere. People can make jokes, they can't be expected to know what will offend every person they're telling the joke to, it's not the joke teller's fault if someone gets offended because that particular joke is close to home. If they did it to offend, fine, if not, no biggie.

LiveLeak.com - Steve Hughes - What's wrong with being offended?

On top of that, there's a difference between simply being offended, scoffing, and whining a bit, and being actually hurt by the joke. If you take Daniel Tosh's suggestion that one of his fans gets raped on the way out of the show (meant to be a joke), this actually hurt her, and could have made her afraid to leave. Also, his fans tend to be idiots, and could have listened. Not saying it would have been his fault if someone attacked her, but his "joke" was completely disgusting and unnecessary. I might be offended if someone makes a joke about hispanics and... labor workers for example, but it's not the same as if someone made a joke that made me feel threatened or hurt.

~~butthead aka 216~~ · 07-23-2013, 01:52 PM

im not trollin at all and i dunno how you would even come to that conclusion, everything i said is my personal opinion and i stand by all of it. sorry u disagree with that

fluffy, i agree its all very cringy. i cant pinpoint the reasoning to be honest but i think maybe its a desire to feel superior somehow or put others down to make yourself feel good?? im talkin about the fake outrage thing. it just seems so common now and it makes me face palm cause i think its ridiculous. everyone should lighten up in my opinion and just take jokes for what they are and thats jokes

~~Sansa Stark~~ · 07-23-2013, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 216

im not trollin at all and i dunno how you would even come to that conclusion, everything i said is my personal opinion and i stand by all of it. sorry u disagree with that

fluffy, i agree its all very cringy. i cant pinpoint the reasoning to be honest but i think maybe its a desire to feel superior somehow or put others down to make yourself feel good?? im talkin about the fake outrage thing. it just seems so common now and it makes me face palm cause i think its ridiculous. everyone should lighten up in my opinion and just take jokes for what they are and thats jokes

Hahaha

Someone's a cute little misogynist

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~~butthead aka 216~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: freely swimmin thru the waters of glory much like a majestic bald eagle soars thru the skies Posts: 1,463	im not trollin at all and i dunno how you would even come to that conclusion, everything i said is my personal opinion and i stand by all of it. sorry u disagree with that fluffy, i agree its all very cringy. i cant pinpoint the reasoning to be honest but i think maybe its a desire to feel superior somehow or put others down to make yourself feel good?? im talkin about the fake outrage thing. it just seems so common now and it makes me face palm cause i think its ridiculous. everyone should lighten up in my opinion and just take jokes for what they are and thats jokes