Terrapin_Station

Right, but I think those folks are idiots insofar as what they call racist, sexist, etc. I don't doubt that there are a lot of idiots in that regard. Hence why this is a pet peeve. PC/SJW culture is a horrible thing with a lot of moronic ideology in my opinion.

Key

Huffington Post would agree as well.

Here Are 13 Examples Of Donald Trump Being Racist | Huffington Post

Key

I posted this to Frown, but Huffington Post disagrees with your statement.

Here Are 13 Examples Of Donald Trump Being Racist | Huffington Post

Terrapin_Station

Yeah, I'm not saying that he definitely isn't a racist, but there's not sufficient evidence (at least not that I'm familiar with) for saying that he is. One really needs to make pretty explicit statements about considering an entire "race" inferior/superior on the basis of characteristics endemic to that race on the whole.

Instead we get a bunch of moronic university students doing things like calling films racist because of the "racial" make-up of the cast.

Terrapin_Station

I can go example by example through that if you're interested:

The first one, re Trump saying this about the Khans:

"“If you look at his wife, she was standing there. She had nothing to say. She probably, maybe she wasn’t allowed to have anything to say. You tell me."

First off, it's ridiculous to parse what he was saying as not being at all humorously intended. But let's leave that aside and suppose that there was nothing humorously intended about it.

He would have been saying that based on beliefs about Islam.

Well, Islam is not a "race." It's a religion.

Religious beliefs are something that people choose to have. And religious conventions are something that people can choose to follow or not.

Even trying to parse this in the most generous way with respect to ideas like racism, if one believes that people have chosen to follow particular religious beliefs and that they've chosen to follow particular religious conventions, there's absolutely no implication that one believes that there's some inherent characteristic related to belonging to that class (I'm using "class" in the (mathematical) "set" sense) that makes everyone who belongs to that class inferior or superior, merely due to class membership.

So taking him seriously, we could say that Trump is perhaps ignorant regarding whether there's a convention in Islam where women are not allowed to speak in a situation such as the Khans' press conference, but nothing about that is racist, or sexist, or anything like that. It would just be ignorance about the conventions of a particular religion.

Also, it's worth noting that he's stating what he did as if he's not even sure about it. Hence "probably," "maybe" and "you tell me."

Do you want me to do any of the others?

Frownland

I disagree. There are many ways that you can be racist without flat out saying "I hate niggers." Of course there are people who use the term too lightly, but that in no way accounts more subversive forms of racism. Do you really think anyone in this day and age is dumb enough to explicitly oust themselves as racist?

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Key

Of course not, because I'll do it for you:

He claimed a judge was biased because “he’s a Mexican”

How could this not be seen as anything but racist? Even Paul Ryan believes in that sentiment : “Claiming a person can’t do their job because of their race is sort of like the textbook definition of a racist comment,” House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) said in a reaction to Trump’s comments, though he clarified that he still endorses the nominee. Whether you choose to believe that or not, the odds are against you. Sorry. inb4 you tell me Mexican isn't a race.

Next. The Justice Department sued his company ― twice ― for not renting to black people

If I have to spell that one out to you, there's a problem.

Next. In fact, discrimination against black people has been a pattern in his career.

African-American is a race, by the way. This was done at the Trump Plaza Hotel.

^Stated by someone that worked at Trump's castle.

Next. He refused to condemn the white supremacists who are campaigning for him

^Self explanatory.

Next. He questions whether President Obama was born in the United States

President Obama has proved multiple times with his birth certificate, but Trump can't seem to drop it. It was even shown in the debate that he can't let it go.

Next. He treats racial groups as monoliths

Self explanatory.

"Even when Trump has dropped the definite article “the,” his attempts at praising minority groups he has previously slandered have been offensive."

Next. He trashed Native Americans, too

^Describing them by the way they look is blatant racism whether you like it or not.

Shall I continue?

Terrapin_Station

But just because someone who might have racist views is unlikely to be explicit about that (some people will still be explicit about it--look at Daniel Carver's comments on the Howard Stern Show for example), that doesn't enable calling statements racist just because they mention race (or ethnicity, etc.) in some way that also involves criticizing someone.

Key

Criticizing them for and based on their race is racism.

Frownland

Sourcepocalypse. This is all from the Post article or what?

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