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The Batlord 03-30-2017 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1818160)
To follow this up, come mid terms you guys that do actually bother to vote better remember these names.

Names of Senators and Representatives and how much they received from lobbyists for Media companies

Also of course Blackburn got up and said that non-sense speech of hers because she got paid 84k.

So 6 out of 11 of my state's representatives (Virginia) voted for this. Including this asshat, Morgan Griffith. No real reason to post this guy's pic other than to laugh at his bought ass. How do you even agree for this to be your official pic?


https://www.govtrack.us/data/photos/412485-200px.jpeg

Chula Vista 03-30-2017 04:11 PM

All republicans. Go figure. The party that screams bloody murder about intrusions into a citizen's privacies.

djchameleon 03-30-2017 04:12 PM

ROFL, why didn't he just tell them to re-take the picture?

Also Planned Parenthoods are about to close down in mass.

Pence casts tie-breaking vote to advance bill that would let states withhold federal funds from Planned Parenthood - LA Times

Chula Vista 03-30-2017 04:24 PM

75 days in:

Screw the environment - Check.
Take away women's rights - Check.
Fail on healthcare reform - Check.
Turn over the EPA to EPA corporate owners - Check.
Turn over Secretary of state to an oil baron - Check.
Nepotism already in the white house - Check.
Insults the **** out of his predeccessor - Check.
Inrease defense funding which may shut down to goverment - Check.
Pissed off China and Germany - Check.

I could go on.

Chula Vista 03-30-2017 05:46 PM

Katie Walsh, the White House's deputy chief of staff, axed in the wake of the failure of repeal and replace.

Flynn and Walsh gone in the first 12 weeks. At this rate he'll renting out half the West Wing by the summer of 2018.

Neapolitan 03-30-2017 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1818194)
Katie Walsh, the White House's deputy chief of staff, axed in the wake of the failure of repeal and replace.

Flynn and Walsh gone in the first 12 weeks. At this rate he'll renting out half the West Wing by the summer of 2018.

ok whatever, it ain't like we need a play-by-play.

Why don't you take a break from politics and post your Top 50 Led Zeppelin albums: http://www.musicbanter.com/general-m...50-albums.html

Chula Vista 03-30-2017 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1818202)
ok whatever, it ain't like we need a play-by-play.

Why don't you take a break from politics and post your Top 50 Led Zeppelin albums: http://www.musicbanter.com/general-m...50-albums.html

I'm bored out of my mind sitting in a large conference with 14 others listening to a Chinese women getting deposed through an interpreter.

TL:DR

**** off.

DwnWthVwls 03-30-2017 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1818202)
ok whatever, it ain't like we need a play-by-play.

Why don't you take a break from politics and post your Top 50 Led Zeppelin albums: http://www.musicbanter.com/general-m...50-albums.html

.

Neapolitan 03-30-2017 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1818176)
75 days in:

Screw the environment - Check.
Take away women's rights - Check.
Fail on healthcare reform - Check.
Turn over the EPA to EPA corporate owners - Check.
Turn over Secretary of state to an oil baron - Check.
Nepotism already in the white house - Check.
Insults the **** out of his predeccessor - Check.
Inrease defense funding which may shut down to goverment - Check.
Pissed off China and Germany - Check.

I could go on.

I guess Al Gore failed to brainwash Donald Trump into believing in "catastrophic anthropogenic global warming." Imagine the money Gore could had made if he only woke Trump to his Sasquatch-size carbon footprint.

Blood And Gore: Making A Killing On Anti-Carbon Investment Hype

DwnWthVwls 03-30-2017 07:47 PM

If Al Gore is your resource for global warming, you're doing it wrong.

Neapolitan 03-30-2017 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1818224)
If Al Gore is your resource for global warming, you're doing it wrong.

I said "catastrophic anthropogenic global warming," not "global warming."

Goofle 03-30-2017 08:03 PM

Not a fan of the stuff Trump has been doing recently, especially regarding NASA and basically issuing quotas for women in STEM fields.

Bad Donald.

He's still not Hillary, so every day is a blessing.

DwnWthVwls 03-30-2017 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1818227)
I said "catastrophic anthropogenic global warming," not "global warming."

Same thing really.

Goofle 03-30-2017 08:07 PM

Well... no.

I don't know enough about the subject to give any definitive opinion (good cases on both sides) but there's clearly a difference.

DwnWthVwls 03-30-2017 08:10 PM

There aren't good cases on both sides.. it's idiots vs reality.

and I've provided you with TONS of resources on more than one occasion now, but you never bother to actually look at it.

I even made a thread about it, that never got any traction, so interested people could have some good resources to reference: http://www.musicbanter.com/current-e...ange-ipcc.html

OccultHawk 03-30-2017 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1818236)
There aren't good cases on both sides.. it's idiots vs reality.

and I've provided you with TONS of resources on more than one occasion now, but you never bother to actually look at it.

I even made a thread about it, that never got any traction, so interested people could have some good resources to reference: http://www.musicbanter.com/current-e...ange-ipcc.html

It ain't even worth it. At this point you either understand or you're retarded.

Key 03-30-2017 08:35 PM

Flynn wants immunity before he speaks. Bye Trump.

Pet_Sounds 03-30-2017 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1818228)
Not a fan of the stuff Trump has been doing recently, especially regarding NASA and basically issuing quotas for women in STEM fields.

Bad Donald.

He's still not Hillary, so every day is a blessing.

Funny, the two things you mentioned are two of my favourite things he's done since entering office.

Neapolitan 03-30-2017 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1818232)
Well... no.

I don't know enough about the subject to give any definitive opinion (good cases on both sides) but there's clearly a difference.

"Global warming" One could admit that average temperature of the Earth which would be "global warming" without coming to the conclusion that its primary cause is man-made. One is just admitting to the current trend of the average temperature increasing.

"CAGW" is a bird of a different feather. It primarily faults man-made carbon emissions thus the "anthropomorphic" aspect to it. It also predicts that AGW will lead to a catastrophic affect on the Earth.

Al Gore Despair as Global Warming Scam Fails


Look into Christopher Walter Monckton, 3rd Viscount Monckton of Brenchley. Unlike Al Gore who likes to yell "bull****," he is very well spoken and provides quite a convincing arguments.

elphenor 03-31-2017 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1818232)
(good cases on both sides)

*facepalm*

elphenor 03-31-2017 12:09 AM

we're so doomed

so ****ed

so dead

Capatalists would rather go down with the ship

Lucem Ferre 03-31-2017 02:50 AM

When it comes to global warming I trust the cosmologists and meteorologists that spend their whole lives studying this and have absolutely nothing to gain from lying. Yeah, I've heard the bull**** about them lying to keep a job or what ever like we will one day decide that we don't give a **** about predicting weather or hurricanes any more.

They all say that the globe is warming and it is linked to the amount of C02 in our atmosphere which is directly linked to the C02 we emit mostly from huge factories and power plants and **** like that. I have searched and I cannot find one person who's occupancy specializes in the study of weather or atmospheres or anything like that that denies that global warming is real and a man made threat. Of all of them that say it's real, I've found one that says that even though it is a man made threat, it is no where near as imminent of a threat as media portrays and that we have plenty of time to fix it before irreversible damage happens. But yeah, none that out right deny global warming being a man made threat.


I challenge anybody to find a climate scientist, a cosmologist, a meteorologist or anybody that has anything to do with studying the specific fields of atmospheres or weather patterns that denies global warming. I put my faith in those dudes more than I do with your ****ing oil industries and politicians that still think talking snakes existed.

Goofle 03-31-2017 07:23 AM

Nobody with any sense argues that the planets temperature hasn't gone up about 1 degree over the past 100+ years. The argument is what we should do about it, and to what extent humans are at fault for that. I'm all for preventing air pollution wherever possible, and let's look at alternate sources of energy.

OccultHawk 03-31-2017 08:46 AM

Yeah

Let's do that before mankind is left without an energy source!

(It's kind of implortant- even without the little climate change dilemma)

rostasi 03-31-2017 09:31 AM

Michael Flynn: People Granted Immunity ‘Probably Have Committed A Crime’

video

Frownland 03-31-2017 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1818328)
and to what extent humans are at fault for that.

The jury is no longer out. We are responsible for the unique rate of change that we are experiencing.

This is a great resource that addresses pretty much all of the mainstream climate change denial arguments in both laymen's terms and more in depth scientific explanations. It is incredibly well-sourced and transparent.

https://www.skepticalscience.com/argument.php

elphenor 03-31-2017 09:37 AM

Edit: frown beat me there

elphenor 03-31-2017 09:45 AM

We have the means to start converting to sustainable energy but Exon is literally and figuratively in our Government

"RULE BY ORGANIZED MONEY IS JUST AS DANGEROUS AS RULE BY ORGANIZED MOB"

-FDR

Chula Vista 03-31-2017 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 1818306)
When it comes to global warming I trust the cosmologists and meteorologists that spend their whole lives studying this and have absolutely nothing to gain from lying. Yeah, I've heard the bull**** about them lying to keep a job or what ever like we will one day decide that we don't give a **** about predicting weather or hurricanes any more.

They all say that the globe is warming and it is linked to the amount of C02 in our atmosphere which is directly linked to the C02 we emit mostly from huge factories and power plants and **** like that. I have searched and I cannot find one person who's occupancy specializes in the study of weather or atmospheres or anything like that that denies that global warming is real and a man made threat. Of all of them that say it's real, I've found one that says that even though it is a man made threat, it is no where near as imminent of a threat as media portrays and that we have plenty of time to fix it before irreversible damage happens. But yeah, none that out right deny global warming being a man made threat.


I challenge anybody to find a climate scientist, a cosmologist, a meteorologist or anybody that has anything to do with studying the specific fields of atmospheres or weather patterns that denies global warming. I put my faith in those dudes more than I do with your ****ing oil industries and politicians that still think talking snakes existed.

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

Lucem Ferre 03-31-2017 01:41 PM

So, if oil comes from the breaking down of fossils over millions of years then how would we run out? Like, aren't other dead things going to break down over millions of years? Is there just some huge gap in time where things didn't live and we will have an oil shortage for a time?

I just don't fully understand this oil crisis thing. Couldn't the oil industries basically just tell us there is a shortage just so they can hike up the prices and make tons of money?

Frownland 03-31-2017 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 1818451)
So, if oil comes from the breaking down of fossils over millions of years then how would we run out? Like, aren't other dead things going to break down over millions of years? Is there just some huge gap in time where things didn't live and we will have an oil shortage for a time?

I just don't fully understand this oil crisis thing. Couldn't the oil industries basically just tell us there is a shortage just so they can hike up the prices and make tons of money?

The rate of consumption is a lot faster than the rate of creation, and there is also the caveat of finding the oil and safely extracting it. That last part is a bigger contributor to the situation than straight up availability.

elphenor 03-31-2017 03:47 PM

You want to solve the crisis in the middle east move to clean energy stop pouring money into the hands of oppressive regimes

For those who aren't terrified enough of the threat of total extinction by freak weather

Frownland 03-31-2017 04:38 PM

Travel ban ban has been appealed to a higher court. They will be on Trump's side because it is in no way unconstitutional (garbage, harmful policy or not).

The Batlord 03-31-2017 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 1818451)
So, if oil comes from the breaking down of fossils over millions of years then how would we run out? Like, aren't other dead things going to break down over millions of years? Is there just some huge gap in time where things didn't live and we will have an oil shortage for a time?

I just don't fully understand this oil crisis thing. Couldn't the oil industries basically just tell us there is a shortage just so they can hike up the prices and make tons of money?

FYI as far as I know most oil comes from algae, not fossils.

Lucem Ferre 03-31-2017 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1818503)
FYI as far as I know most oil comes from algae, not fossils.

Yeah, I don't know **** about it was why I was asking questions. Probably better off doing my own research on it to be honest but I'm not really interested enough into putting forth that effort so I was hoping I could get an educated answer. And I think I did.

Neapolitan 03-31-2017 05:23 PM

Abiogenic petroleum origin

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Some abiogenic hypotheses have proposed that oil and gas did not originate from fossil deposits, but have instead originated from deep carbon deposits, present since the formation of the Earth.[2] Additionally, it has been suggested that hydrocarbons may have arrived on Earth from solid bodies such as comets and asteroids from the late formation of the Solar System, carrying hydrocarbons with them.[3][4]

The Batlord 03-31-2017 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 1818520)
Yeah, I don't know **** about it was why I was asking questions. Probably better off doing my own research on it to be honest but I'm not really interested enough into putting forth that effort so I was hoping I could get an educated answer. And I think I did.

Yeah me neither. Just kinda knew that one thing. Which is why I'm actually checking out a Frownland link for once.

Trollheart 03-31-2017 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1818521)

****ing rich oil baron aliens! I knew it was them all along!

Pet_Sounds 03-31-2017 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 1818306)
When it comes to global warming I trust the cosmologists and meteorologists that spend their whole lives studying this and have absolutely nothing to gain from lying. Yeah, I've heard the bull**** about them lying to keep a job or what ever like we will one day decide that we don't give a **** about predicting weather or hurricanes any more.

They all say that the globe is warming and it is linked to the amount of C02 in our atmosphere which is directly linked to the C02 we emit mostly from huge factories and power plants and **** like that. I have searched and I cannot find one person who's occupancy specializes in the study of weather or atmospheres or anything like that that denies that global warming is real and a man made threat. Of all of them that say it's real, I've found one that says that even though it is a man made threat, it is no where near as imminent of a threat as media portrays and that we have plenty of time to fix it before irreversible damage happens. But yeah, none that out right deny global warming being a man made threat.


I challenge anybody to find a climate scientist, a cosmologist, a meteorologist or anybody that has anything to do with studying the specific fields of atmospheres or weather patterns that denies global warming. I put my faith in those dudes more than I do with your ****ing oil industries and politicians that still think talking snakes existed.

1. I think you're confusing comologists with climatologists.

2. It's CO2 (as in one carbon atom, two oxygen atoms), not C02.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1818344)
The jury is no longer out. We are responsible for the unique rate of change that we are experiencing.

This is a great resource that addresses pretty much all of the mainstream climate change denial arguments in both laymen's terms and more in depth scientific explanations. It is incredibly well-sourced and transparent.

https://www.skepticalscience.com/argument.php

There is also stuff like this. Fyi, I'm not a "denier"—just pointing out that parties on both sides of the debate can be biased and it's not as much of a black-and-white issue as it's usually made out to be.

Lucem Ferre 03-31-2017 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Pet_Sounds (Post 1818621)
1. I think you're confusing comologists with climatologists.

2. It's CO2 (as in one carbon atom, two oxygen atoms), not C02.



There is also stuff like this. Fyi, I'm not a "denier"—just pointing out that parties on both sides of the debate can be biased and it's not as much of a black-and-white issue as it's usually made out to be.

No, cosmologists study atmospheres. It's one of the fields they study.

Sorry for my scientific faux pas though.


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