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Janszoon 01-29-2017 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1800808)
Even a broken clock is right twice a day. If even NPR can't be bothered to have more than a five second attention span when they discuss breaking news, then that needs to be balanced out with articles like that one that contextualizes what's happening over a broader span of time and several presidencies.

If bicycles are going to rocket humans to the Moon, we need tuna fish for ice cream.

djchameleon 01-29-2017 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1800798)
Why does it? Would it apply if he banned people from Italy?

Ask yourself is Italy a Muslim majority country?

Cuthbert 01-29-2017 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1800813)
Ask yourself is Italy a Muslim majority country?

I think you've missed the point to be honest.

djchameleon 01-29-2017 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1800814)
I think you've missed the point to be honest.

Why are you discussing non Muslims? What's your point?

Trollheart 01-29-2017 12:48 PM

I'm with DJ on this one. It's pretty clear Trump is not trying to stop immigration per se, at least not yet; he's trying to stop what he sees as a specific religious group or one affiliated with (or believed to be affiliated with) one which promotes terrorism. It's clearly whatever religious profiling would be called - faith profiling? Anyway, it has nothing to do with Italy, France, Germany or Spain (though the last is a historically Muslim country)... it's about what he sees as stopping the spread of "Muslim/Islamist refugees (read, terrorists)" into America and thus keeping her safer.

Cuthbert 01-29-2017 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1800815)
Why are you discussing non Muslims? What's your point?

You said banning people from Muslim majority countries is infringing on freedom of religion (because most of them happen to be Muslims) so I'm asking if you would also consider it an infringement on freedom of religion if he banned people coming from Italy as they are majority Catholic.

elphenor 01-29-2017 01:17 PM

The obvious reason for the ban is Islamaphobia ofc but Trumpsters would argue those areas produce a lot of terrorists

Since it's a ban on Muslim countries and not Muslims as a whole I'm not sure about the constitutionality of it

I think it's enough to just say it's just stupid

grindy 01-29-2017 01:26 PM

There's certainly a strong xenophobic element to the fear of islamic terrorism in the US.
Especially since to me the threat of right-wing christian terrorism seems far bigger.
Still I can't find too much fault in a president not wanting risky immigration from unstable regions.

Raust 01-29-2017 01:58 PM

Hey guys remember when Obama did a ban on the same countries plus more for a longer period of time and no one gave a ****? Good times!
MORE HYPOCRISY: Obama Banned all Iraqi Refugees for 6 Months in 2011 - Liberals SAID NOTHING!

Exo 01-29-2017 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Raust (Post 1800839)
Hey guys remember when Obama did a ban on the same countries plus more for a longer period of time and no one gave a ****? Good times!
MORE HYPOCRISY: Obama Banned all Iraqi Refugees for 6 Months in 2011 - Liberals SAID NOTHING!

There should have been protests then as well. It still doesn't make it right. It was wrong then and it's wrong now. Every time one of these articles pops up it just screams "well HE DID IT SO NOW I CAN" to me. This country needs to grow the **** up and start doing the right thing no matter who it benefits or who it hurts financially and stop caring about who did it first or who did it better.


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