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Key 12-18-2016 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1784716)
To contextualize this, there are oodles more people these days. I see a lot of people thinking that this means as a percentage of the population. She still way outdoes the difference in the popular vote compared to the 2000 election though.

That's certainly true. I didn't really take the sentences this stems from too literally although it's still impressive.

Chula Vista 12-18-2016 04:12 PM

Pompous. Egotistical. Arrogant. Privileged. That look has become so cliche he should trademark it.

http://i2.cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/as...rlay-tease.jpg

The Batlord 12-18-2016 04:20 PM

If he did then you wouldn't be able to use that avatar. Fair trade.

Key 12-18-2016 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1784749)
If he did then you wouldn't be able to use that avatar. Fair trade.

This is the only good thing coming out of Trump: the dank memes.

Anteater 12-18-2016 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1784710)
How do you not see how much money his businesses made during the campaign season? Yes he did lose some money over the polarizing comments that he made where certain businesses no longer wanted to be associated with his brand but other than that. He ended up coming out in the black as far as his businesses goes just by running for president. Don't you think that will continue with him as president? He's setting himself up for so many conflicts of interest right now but he's going to continue doing it until he's forced to stop.

You make feasible points, but if you are going to say that he did lose money based on things we said then I think this is something we'd need to see hard numbers on for better or for worse.

As far as the conflicts of interests are concerned, I'm actually rather interested in how he handles a lot of them, seeing as we've never had someone elected before with a multimillion globally spanning business before. Someone with the kind of wide ranging assets he possesses was not in the Founding Fathers' predictions. The ball is in Congress's court I suppose.

With Trump's Potential Conflicts Of Interest, Congress Will Have Final Say : NPR


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Again profits for his businesses and all those campaign donations that ended up just funneled into the businesses and didn't even really go towards the campaigns. He has himself set up so lovely that he doesn't even want the salary that the president gets. He's going to do one of those just give me a 1 dollar for the year because he's making so much from his businesses and if you think he's ever going to be fully detached from his businesses think again. He's basically handing them off to his kids which he can just invite over for dinner and tell him how he wants it run but I'm sure he trusts them to run it the way that he would and if they are doing anything he doesn't like he can just easily talk to them about it. Also deep down to be honest, I think Trump didn't really expect to win. He did it for the money and then when he noticed he had a real chance, he ran with it. He didn't fully come around to thinking that he could actually win til probably the last week before the election.

Agreed mostly, but you make it sound like his kids being involved is some kind of problem that has never occurred before in presidential history, which is not true. Look at FDR for example plus 15 other past presidents.

Donald Trump's Kids Wouldn't Be First to Work in White House

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Trump pretty much used that base and the people on the fringe that doesn't like establishment politicians to win along with all the people that are out of work or have been on hard times with their job or finding a job. He also was spewing so much hate speech that riled up his hardcore fans they wanted to make a final stand against PC culture. People that voted for Trump but want to distance themselves and not be called a bigot/racist for supporting a conman that tapped into the feelings of hatred that people were feeling towards Obama and specific groups whether they are immigrants who they feel are stealing jobs from them or them damn niggers that are just soaking up safety net programs and aren't contributing. Also he played off of the fear that Muslims are evil and need to be registered upon entering the country which is such a POS. If someone said that about Christians there would be hell to pay. Even if you don't believe any of those positions but still voted for Trump. You co-opted that behavior. You are basically saying it's okay to hate those groups. There is no separation there.
Trump tapped into feelings of hated and racism to some extent, but that's not really why he won. I'll save you the pep talk and let this nice European liberal fellow break it down.


djchameleon 12-18-2016 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1784753)
You make feasible points, but if you are going to say that he did lose money based on things we said then I think this is something we'd need to see hard numbers on for better or for worse.

How much money may Donald Trump have lost already? - Business Insider

This article breaks down some hard numbers and that was just from the rapist comment about illegal immigrants. I didn't dig deep enough to see how much more he has lost since then. Majority of the media outlets are only reporting his gains for the most part.

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1784753)
As far as the conflicts of interests are concerned, I'm actually rather interested in how he handles a lot of them, seeing as we've never had someone elected before with a multimillion globally spanning business before. Someone with the kind of wide ranging assets he possesses was not in the Founding Fathers' predictions. The ball is in Congress's court I suppose.

With Trump's Potential Conflicts Of Interest, Congress Will Have Final Say : NPR

We shall see what they do, he's really stepping across ethical lines on this one.


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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1784753)
Agreed mostly, but you make it sound like his kids being involved is some kind of problem that has never occurred before in presidential history, which is not true. Look at FDR for example plus 15 other past presidents.

Donald Trump's Kids Wouldn't Be First to Work in White House

I didn't know if he was setting a precedent for it or not. Obviously you have provided proof that he's not but I still feel like it IS an issue regardless if other presidents have done so in the past.

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1784753)
Trump tapped into feelings of hated and racism to some extent, but that's not really why he won. I'll save you the pep talk and let this nice European liberal fellow break it down.


I'm not saying that's the only reason why he won but it is part of numerous other reasons.
I will watch that 13 min video eventually even though I have a strong feeling what he's going to say.

djchameleon 12-18-2016 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1784783)
It's not as if the GOP is capable of producing a candidate that doesn't have disgusting policies anyway this would be just as bad if it was president elect Rubio or something

I disagree. President Elect Rubio wouldn't pick this bad of a cabinet full of no political experiencing having mother ****ers.

Speaking of which, I need to update the OP.

djchameleon 12-18-2016 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1784791)
don't really care about any of that

policy, policy, policy,

the only thing that matters

You should care about that. It isn't just that they will be promoting Republican leaning policy changes they will be going to extremes and/or dismantling certain departments in the process. Or at least the very least running them extremely inefficiently.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 12-18-2016 05:57 PM

lol

Key 12-18-2016 06:01 PM

fite

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 12-18-2016 06:07 PM

no im just laughing at every thing in this thread all at once

Key 12-18-2016 06:15 PM

Canada have nothing to laugh about.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 12-18-2016 06:17 PM

justin trudeau is kinda the worst and before that we had stephen harper who is also kinda the worst, we're just as ****ed tbh but just without the spectacle surrounding it.

Key 12-18-2016 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1784814)
justin trudeau is kinda the worst and before that we had stephen harper who is also kinda the worst, we're just as ****ed tbh but just without the spectacle surrounding it.

How about just jump in a lake?

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 12-18-2016 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1784818)
trudeau looks douchey but his policies are surprisingly okay

yeah that article is ignoring a lot of the other stuff. i don't think he's like, horrible, but he's nowhere as good as the hardcore libs make him out to be. he still hasn't even addressed bill c-51 (which was like his biggest platform when running.)

also he says a lot of ridiculous things. see his comments about Fidel Castro or the way he treated his appointing so many women to the supreme court by saying "it's 2016, why not?" really dude? that's the best you have, because it's 2016? i'm all for getting more women in these positions but maybe he could have discussed how they're incredibly certified for the spot and how they've worked hard throughout their careers for it. but nah, "it's 2016, why not?" works a lot better for approval ratings with the youngins.

Anteater 12-18-2016 06:52 PM

Beautiful.


Queen Boo 12-19-2016 04:06 AM

This guy is so insanely reckless I'm just scratching my head wondering why the hell the government doesn't just whack him already. I mean a lot of Trump supporters believe Obama had Scalia killed so why the f*ck are they letting this China sh*t slide?

Mindfulness 12-19-2016 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Chubbysailorvenus (Post 1784928)
This guy is so insanely reckless I'm just scratching my head wondering why the hell the government doesn't just whack him already. I mean a lot of Trump supporters believe Obama had Scalia killed so why the f*ck are they letting this China sh*t slide?

what he said^:dj:

Queen Boo 12-19-2016 09:09 AM

She, bruv.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 12-19-2016 11:22 AM

if you're in the mood to laugh at how ridiculous some of the republicans out there are, check the comments.

https://www.facebook.com/LibertyMeme...type=3&theater

:rofl:

Trollheart 12-20-2016 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1785199)
because the FBI already conducted a coo for Mother Russia

http://pngimg.com/upload/pigeon_PNG3423.png

Psy-Fi 12-20-2016 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1785213)

Damn Putin's War pigeons and their secret pro-Trump messages!

War Pigeon

Trollheart 12-20-2016 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Psy-Fi (Post 1785223)
Damn Putin's War pigeons and their secret pro-Trump messages!

War Pigeon

It's true: if you listen carefully you can almost make out "Trrrump" in their call. :laughing:

Frownland 12-20-2016 11:13 AM

https://scontent.fsan1-2.fna.fbcdn.n...17&oe=58F99A27

Key 12-20-2016 11:15 AM

Seeing as he won the electoral college vote, it's time to prepare for the end of the world.

Anteater 12-20-2016 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1785268)
Seeing as he won the electoral college vote, it's time to prepare for the end of the world.

Perception, as is the case in all things, is always relative. :)


Key 12-20-2016 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1785290)
Perception, as is the case in all things, is always relative. :)


Unsure what you're getting at. Am I not supposed to be of the opinion that Trump is going to push us back over 60 years of progress?

Psy-Fi 12-20-2016 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1785290)
Perception, as is the case in all things, is always relative. :)


:laughing:

Anteater 12-20-2016 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1785299)
Unsure what you're getting at. Am I not supposed to be of the opinion that Trump is going to push us back over 60 years of progress?

Correct, because that's fearmongering and an overtly pessimistic way to think. Trump didn't elect himself to overturn all the good that has been done in the past (he was a Democrat himself until fairly recently), and everything people assume for good or ill is all assumption anyway, just like you don't know if you'll find a million dollars when you step outside your house or if a meteor will come down. Think of it this way: If Obama with his endless procession of executive orders and questionable cabinet picks over an eight year period couldn't transform the United States into the liberal utopia the Republicans didn't want, I don't know why you'd expect something just as unrealistic from The Donald.

Trollheart 12-20-2016 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1784843)
Beautiful.


So ... is this a video for or against Trump? Cos, you know, at the end he destroys Earth... :confused:

Anteater 12-20-2016 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1785320)
So ... is this a video for or against Trump? Cos, you know, at the end he destroys Earth... :confused:

More "for" than against, because it embraces the meme culture that got Trump elected and uses a common leftist kneejerk response ("Trump is the end of the world") as a punchline.

Key 12-20-2016 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1785318)
Correct, because that's fearmongering and an overtly pessimistic way to think. Trump didn't elect himself to overturn all the good that has been done in the past (he was a Democrat himself until fairly recently), and everything people assume for good or ill is all assumption anyway, just like you don't know if you'll find a million dollars when you step outside your house or if a meteor will come down. Think of it this way: If Obama with his endless procession of executive orders and questionable cabinet picks over an eight year period couldn't transform the United States into the liberal utopia the Republicans didn't want, I don't know why you'd expect something just as unrealistic from The Donald.

Well you believe what you want. Trump on the other hand has already proved through his cabinet choices that he wants to reverse upwards of 50 years of work starting with reversing a lot of what has happened in the last 8 years. If that's not scary to you, maybe rethink your own opinion.

Anteater 12-20-2016 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1785323)
Well you believe what you want. Trump on the other hand has already proved through his cabinet choices that he wants to reverse upwards of 50 years of work starting with reversing a lot of what has happened in the last 8 years. If that's not scary to you, maybe rethink your own opinion.

What has happened in the last eight years that's so miraculous? The ACA, which is Obama's legacy supposedly, is a massive failure. I've changed insurance companies twice in two years now because rates are skyrocketing seemingly without rhyme or reason.

As far as his cabinet picks are concerned...again, lots of kneejerk reactions. For instance, I don't think Rick Perry is honestly that bad a choice for the Department Of Energy, at least if you have ALL information available at your disposal. And yes, I'm aware this is The Federalist. But the points made are still valid.

https://thefederalist.com/2016/12/14...retary-energy/

And so on and so forth. Again, you have the power to do your own research and examine all avenues of possibility. Don't be a follower: keep an open mind and examine all assumptions. Don't be like Chula and elphenor and have a kneejerk reaction to things based on emotional responses to minimal information and laughable biases. Human beings are more than the sum of their careers after all, and that goes for cabinet picks as well. I've seen better and worse picks alike over the last 30 years, yet somehow America is still alive and well.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 12-20-2016 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1785323)
Well you believe what you want. Trump on the other hand has already proved through his cabinet choices that he wants to reverse upwards of 50 years of work starting with reversing a lot of what has happened in the last 8 years. If that's not scary to you, maybe rethink your own opinion.

lol please inform us on what happened in the last 8 years that if undone will set the US back 50 years. you're reading too many of the same articles as Chula it seems.

The Batlord 12-20-2016 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1785323)
If that's not scary to you, maybe rethink your own opinion.

Whenever you say this, or "Maybe do some research", it makes you sound like a defensive idiot.

Key 12-20-2016 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1785325)
lol please inform us on what happened in the last 8 years that if undone will set the US back 50 years. you're reading too many of the same articles as Chula it seems.

So he doesn't seem like a threat to you? Perhaps you need to do more reading.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 12-20-2016 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1785327)
So he doesn't seem like a threat to you? Perhaps you need to do more reading.

so instead of answering my question you put words in mouth and tell me to do some reading

Chula Vista Jr. ladies and gentlemen!

Key 12-20-2016 04:21 PM

This forum is gonna be the death of me whether it's from people's own inability to research or my inability to let a stupid argument go.

The Batlord 12-20-2016 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1785337)
This forum is gonna be the death of me whether it's from people's own inability to research or my inability to let a stupid argument go.

You could always try presenting your own research instead of being lazy.

Key 12-20-2016 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1785342)
You could always try presenting your own research instead of being lazy.

I'm honestly more interested in hearing counter arguments to research that is plain sight. If you look at Trump's cabinet choices and you're not afraid of what the country will turn into, you haven't been paying attention.


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