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The Batlord 09-20-2017 01:34 PM

If I was Hispanic in a country without tacos I'd want out too tbh.

Trollheart 09-20-2017 02:01 PM

Fair play to Barcelona. I'd imagine they have some pretty heavy hitting Spanish backers, and supporting Catalanian independence may hurt them, but they've voted with their hearts. I wonder will all the players support the club position though, given that so few of them are even Spanish?

Cuthbert 09-20-2017 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1875548)
Fair play to Barcelona. I'd imagine they have some pretty heavy hitting Spanish backers, and supporting Catalanian independence may hurt them, but they've voted with their hearts. I wonder will all the players support the club position though, given that so few of them are even Spanish?

The interesting thing is where they would play if Catalonia did gain independence. I'm not 100% on it but I'm sure La Liga said they would make them play in the Catalan league (bad for them, they would be much weaker). The French league was mentioned also.

Catalan identity & nationalism is very much in the club's DNA, 'mes que un club' etc, it's the only reason I'm even sort of aware of the whole thing. Any game they play you will see loads of Catalan flags and stuff like that in the crowd.

Trollheart 09-20-2017 02:31 PM

It's hard to believe the Spanish govt would "banish" them, as they must bring in huge revenue, through sponsorship, merchandising and player transfers, to say nothing of gate receipts and television rights - the Spanish government must take their cut of all this in tax/VAT, and if they "kicked them out of Spain" they would lose all that surely? I reckon they'd come to some sort of arrangement which will be beneficial to both. Barcelona have to be huge for the tourism industry too, not just the club but the city: isn't La Sagrada Familia there?

Mindfulness 09-21-2017 04:07 AM


Mindfulness 09-21-2017 08:57 AM

do your part to get kid rock in the senate! http://oi63.tinypic.com/142y8uc.jpg

The Batlord 09-21-2017 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Mindfulness (Post 1875763)

Nelson Mandela is officially a paranoid old man reading too many blogs.

Mindfulness 09-21-2017 05:55 PM


this is the newest A Closer Look video

Mindfulness 09-23-2017 04:33 PM


i believe the email talk in the media was what the clinton campaign wanted and they thought that would out weight trumps personal character flaws https://boxden.com/smilies/Qh2Vxfi.gif

Frownland 09-26-2017 03:49 PM

Let's change the name to the RIPublican Party. I wonder which nail will secure the Democratic party's coffin, but they're not as predictable and that adds a lot of challenge to the game.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/power...=.d9541ad08853

Wpnfire 09-26-2017 04:04 PM

A couple years ago I started seeing predictions about the fracture of the Republican Party, and it's exciting to see it unfold for real now.

Chula Vista 09-26-2017 09:07 PM

Alabama senate runoff race.....

Bannon 1. Trump 0.

:rofl:

Mindfulness 09-27-2017 07:16 AM


Cuthbert 09-27-2017 03:01 PM

Spain to deploy police to prevent Catalan independence vote

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Police will be deployed at polling stations to prevent people from voting in the Catalan independence referendum, the Spanish government has confirmed.

Although the Catalonia regional government has insisted the unilateral poll will go ahead on Sunday, the Spanish government has vowed to stop the vote, which it says is a clear violation of the constitution. Spain’s constitutional court has suspended the legislation underpinning the referendum while it rules on its legality.

A spokesman for the Spanish government’s Catalan delegation said on Tuesday that the region’s prosecutor had ordered the Mossos d’Esquadra, Catalonia’s police force, to take control of polling booths and identify those in charge.

“The order has been conveyed and it will be executed with all normality,” he said.

The Spanish government said the steps it had taken over the past week, including raiding Catalan government offices, arresting 14 officials and seizing almost 10m ballot papers, meant the vote could not take place.

“Today we can affirm that there will be no effective referendum in Catalonia,” the Spanish government’s representative in Catalonia, Enric Millo, told reporters on Tuesday. “All the referendum’s logistics have been dismantled.”

In an order to police issued on Monday, the prosecutor’s office said it would take the names of anyone participating in the vote and confiscate relevant documents.

Anyone in possession of the keys or entrance codes to a polling booth could be considered a collaborator to crimes of disobedience, misuse of office and misappropriation of funds, the order said.

However, despite the words and actions of the Spanish government, not to mention the deployment of thousands of extra police officers to Catalonia, the regional government is adamant that the referendum cannot be stopped.
If I was a Catalan, this would just make me want independence more.

Frownland 09-27-2017 03:03 PM

Yep. **** Spain.

Trollheart 09-27-2017 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1877466)
Spain to deploy police to prevent Catalan independence vote



If I was a Catalan, this would just make me want independence more.

Of course it would. Expect blood in the streets. :( Idiots. You can't stop a country or region getting its independence by exerting force upon them. They who do not learn from history etc.

The Batlord 09-27-2017 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1877466)
Spain to deploy police to prevent Catalan independence vote



If I was a Catalan, this would just make me want independence more.

http://image.blingee.com/images16/co...3570_72177.gif

Trollheart 09-27-2017 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1877466)



If I was a Cat, alan, this would just make me want independence more.

Who's Alan?

Frownland 09-27-2017 05:27 PM

That's such a stretch that it causes industrial-grade elastic to snap.

Frownland 09-27-2017 05:30 PM

GOP proposes deep tax cuts, provides few details on how to pay for them

Wait, I'm no Goofle, but since when is the left concerned about crafting tax reform or government functions without a means to pay for them?

Cuthbert 09-27-2017 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1877519)
That's such a stretch that it causes industrial-grade elastic to snap.

Over two hours to post it as well :D

Not one of your best, TH.

Trollheart 09-27-2017 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1877523)
Over two hours to post it as well :D

Not one of your best, TH.

You try listening to and reviewing almost 70 albums inside a month, then come to me. ;)

djchameleon 09-27-2017 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1877521)
GOP proposes deep tax cuts, provides few details on how to pay for them

Wait, I'm no Goofle, but since when is the left concerned about crafting tax reform or government functions without a means to pay for them?

The article you posted didn't really touch on what you said under it.

The left usually wants to pay for it through taxing corporations more. Nothing new was mentioned in that article. It's the same ole same ole with the GOP. They want to reduce the corporate tax so the rich and upper middle class benefits. Along with giving them other tax cuts.

Frownland 09-27-2017 05:59 PM

Sorry, I should have specified that I meant Democrats.

djchameleon 09-27-2017 06:03 PM

Yeah true, Democrats are too busy trying to be moderate to do anything daring enough like go after corporations. They will talk about it maybe but in practice. Nope.

Goofle 09-27-2017 08:26 PM

Quit posting Washington Post articles. I ain't subscribing lids.

Chula Vista 09-28-2017 09:38 AM

Trevor Noah the other night asking Trump what is the correct way for a black person to protest:

It’s wrong to do it in the streets;
It’s wrong to do it in the tweets;
You cannot do it on the field;
You cannot do it if you’ve kneeled;
And don’t do it if you’re rich,
you ungrateful son of a bitch.
Because there’s one thing that’s a fact:
You cannot protest if you’re black.


https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset...eg?ops=200_150

Goofle 09-28-2017 09:45 AM

Who is expected to be the presidential candidate for the Dems in 2020? Surely can't be any of the current faces (Warren, Bernie, Biden etc.) if they want to have a chance of winning?

Frownland 09-28-2017 09:54 AM

I think they're grooming Kamala Harris.

Chula Vista 09-28-2017 10:08 AM

I'd like to see Chris Murphy throw his hat in right around the mid-terms so he'd have a solid two years to campaign. He's got the right mix of progressive with just enough classic liberal to appeal to a lot of people on the left and in the middle.

https://www.murphy.senate.gov/issues

Goofle 09-28-2017 10:08 AM

@ Frown - She's good on drugs.

I'm just hoping my man Tom Woods decides to pull his finger out and run for the Libertarian candidacy.

Frownland 09-28-2017 10:13 AM

Jesus, are there any politicians who can honestly say that they're don't support the military industrial complex?

https://www.murphy.senate.gov/issues...foreign-policy

Goofle 09-28-2017 10:38 AM

My man Tom Woods wouldn't. He's actually a very good introduction to Libertarian/Anarchist views if you're interested.

Frownland 09-28-2017 10:46 AM

I often wonder how those types of figures would hold up if their opinions have an accountability tied to them through their position. That's not a knock on his philosophy or anything, I haven't read up on him at all except to see if he had experience.

F. Ex there are many Democrats who decry our bloated military while they're giving an under-the-table handy to the industry that perpetuates the complex because willfully cutting factory jobs is risky political move.

Trollheart 09-28-2017 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1877634)
Who is expected to be the presidential candidate for the Dems in 2020? Surely can't be any of the current faces (Warren, Bernie, Biden etc.) if they want to have a chance of winning?

Heard the Dread Lord Chthulu was thinking of running...

Chula Vista 09-28-2017 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1877645)
Willfully cutting factory jobs is a risky political move.

https://media.giphy.com/media/3o7abI...KrqU/giphy.gif

Frownland 09-28-2017 12:29 PM

And here I thought I was the only one who ever thought of that, because that's how you define a risky move in the political sense: obscurity.

Mindfulness 09-28-2017 03:30 PM

@Chula Vista,Trevor Noah is awesome. Chris Murphy For President 2020?
@Goofle,Never heard of Tom Woods. I think Zuckerburg 2020?
@Frownland, damn you going after Chris Murphy hard. Deep thoughts to ponder.

Frownland 09-28-2017 03:34 PM

It's a criticism of Murphy, yes, but it's more of a criticism of our political system on the whole because feeding the war machine is ubiquitous among American politicians on both sides.

Goofle 09-28-2017 03:43 PM

Murphy seems about as terrible as I would expect.


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