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Old 03-26-2006, 10:10 AM   #511 (permalink)
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Post punk?....I wouldnt consider Sonic Youth post punk unless every other alternative rock band at the time is post punk, and that would make U2 post punk as well.

Suicide were more along the lines of New Wave, but either way they were around since the late 70s when punk was still a new thing...And i thought they were british, guess i was wrong.

I would consider The Cramps to be punk, just punk, plain and simple.

And i f*cking hate Devo, but whatever floats your boat man.
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Old 03-26-2006, 10:18 AM   #512 (permalink)
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Post punk?....I wouldnt consider Sonic Youth post punk unless every other alternative rock band at the time is post punk, and that would make U2 post punk as well.

Suicide were more along the lines of New Wave, but either way they were around since the late 70s when punk was still a new thing...And i thought they were british, guess i was wrong.

I would consider The Cramps to be punk, just punk, plain and simple.

And i f*cking hate Devo, but whatever floats your boat man.
Sonic Youth's first three albums went from No Wave post-punk to an almost goth post-punk on Evol.

Both post-punk and new wave were phenomena that didn't occur until after punk, but bands like Television and Suicide weren't punk but laid the blueprints for both post-punk and new wave, so I don't really know how you would classify them. But Suicide, in my opinion, was much too abrasive and "punkish" for new wave.

I think The Cramps definetely pushed the borders of "punk," but I don't really feel like arguing over genres there.

As for Devo, their first album was good.

I don't really see the comparison between Sonic Youth and U2 on any level, but in any case, Pere Ubu is one of my top 5 favorite bands ever so that gives US post-punk a lot of credit in my opinion.
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I would consider The Cramps to be punk, just punk, plain and simple.
I wouldn't. I'd say psychobilly or rockabilly.

But hey, we're all getting anal over the little things, the way I see it, a lot of great bands are being discussed in this thread.
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Old 03-26-2006, 11:24 AM   #514 (permalink)
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Ok, i take back what i said about post punk, mkay?

We have been discussing nothing but indie and punk the whole time, there are other genres out there.

Metal for example....We have bands like Metallica, Slayer, Megadeth and Pantera...But the UK pretty much invented metal, and they had Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Motorhead, etc...All of whom were very important to the development of metal as a serious genre.

And of course, PROG...Thats probably one genre where the US dosent even touch the UK...They had King Crimson, Yes, Pink Floyd, ELP, Gentle Giant, Genesis, Jethro Tull, Van Der Graaf Generator, The Mahavishnu Orchestra, Uriah Heep, Renaissance, Camel, The Moody Blues, Hawkwind, The Strawbs, Caravan, Traffic, Gryphon, Quintessence, Kate Bush, Hatfield And The North, Soft Machine, Captain Beyond, Jade Warrior, Family, Greenslade, Khan, Egg, Supersister, Babe Ruth, High Tide, Barclay James Harvest, Ozric Tentacles, Purcupine Tree and Radiohead.

What do we have?...Hmm, Frank Zappa, Happy The Man, Captain Beefheart, Mars Volta, Primus, Tool, Mr Bungle, Buckethead, Symphony X, Queensryche, umm............Dream Theater?

In fact, there are tons of talented prog bands from around the world, including France, Italy, Germany, Sweden, Greece, Finland, Poland, Belguim, Hungary, Norway, Netherlands, Spain, Yugoslavia, Japan, Mexico, Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Canada and Israel...We got to give them some credit too.
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How about Classical/Avant-Garde?

The US has got John Cage, La Monte Young, Glenn Branca...

I can't really think of any British composers at the moment, but Germany, Russia, and France definetely beast the US and UK in that regard.
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Sonic Youth's first three albums went from No Wave post-punk to an almost goth post-punk on Evol.
And were all shit.

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And were all shit.

If by shit you mean THE shit!

To each his own.
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Bad Moon Rising is one of the worst albums in my collection.

The other 2 are a little better but not much.

Sonic Youth didn`t get interesting till Sister to me.
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Bad Moon Rising is one of the worst albums in my collection.

The other 2 are a little better but not much.

Sonic Youth didn`t get interesting till Sister to me.
I haven't actually heard Bad Moon Rising. Evol is decent, but I consider Confusion is Sex to be on par with Daydream Nation. That might sound blasphemous, but there's something about that album that really gets me.
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Suicide were more along the lines of New Wave,
Are we listening to the same band?
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